Farm owners voted for Trump, now they're afraid they'll lose their Latino workers

[Bernie Madoff]

Oh no who else can they pay slave wages?

 

[jerniebert]

What land region? You do know that Mexicans are from a specific region, right? So are you trying to extrapolate and say that Cherokee and Seminole Indian tribes are the same as the tribes found around Mexacali? If that is the case then why don't Mexicans lay claim to Haiti or the Dominican or Brazil?

Mexicali - Wikipedia

The U.S.-Mexican War . War (1846-1848) . The Borderlands on the Eve of War | PBS

So mexican American war never happened. I'm cool arguing with you. You do you.

 

[Samori Toure]

So mexican American war never happened. I'm cool arguing with you. You do you.

You wrote:
"...but you do realize this land region belonged to Mexicans first, right?"

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/23200889/

This land region DID NOT belong to Mexico first. I see people write that crap and I am floored. What land east of the Mississippi did Mexico lay claim to?

The Mexican American War granted Southern California; Arizona, New Mexico and Utah to the USA. Mexico lay claim Texas as well, but the lands east of the Mississippi were either original colonies of England or purchased from France in the Louisiana Purchase. France sold it territories to the USA after France lost it war against the slaves in Haiti. So Mexico did not lay claims to the lands east of the Mississippi.

 

[TTT]

This quote from the article shows that people that claim to be capitalists are full of shyt:

“If you only have legal labor, certain parts of this industry and this region will not exist,” said Harold McClarty, a fourth-generation farmer in Kingsburg whose operation grows, packs and ships peaches, plums and grapes throughout the country. “If we sent all these people back, it would be a total disaster.”

Capitalism states that if a business can not compete then it is supposed to die. The labor laws require employers to hire legal workers and to pay "x" dollars. If business can not hire legal workers and pay them "x" dollars then it is supposed to die. That is capitalism. The sumbytch that owns that farm is admitting that he is against capitalism, but he would be the first a$$hole railing against socialism.

By the way the argument pushed by that a$$hole farmer is the same one that slaveowners used to justify keeping slavery. fukk him and his business and good riddance.

I see similar arguments from GOP voting farmers who support subsidies. Some of them say "at least I am producing something" to justify why they should continue receiving Fed money while at the same time criticizing other transfer payments as handouts. Wisconsin in particular has this issue and I think they are also trying to introduce more restrictive labeling of milk because of the encroachment into the market by non-dairy varieties.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Capitalism states that if a business can not compete then it is supposed to die. The labor laws require employers to hire legal workers and to pay "x" dollars. If business can not hire legal workers and pay them "x" dollars then it is supposed to die. That is capitalism. The sumbytch that owns that farm is admitting that he is against capitalism, but he would be the first a$$hole railing against socialism.

"Competition is great for everybody!"

*colludes with all the other business owners to control prices so there is no competition*

"Liberals are lazy and just want a handout from the government!"

*receives billions in subsidies*

"I'm a red-blooded, hard-working, God-fearing American!"

*never actually works, hires Mexicans, pays them shyt, threatens them with deportation, calls the pastor a fakkit because his sermon went long and he missed the first quarter of the big game*

 

[Breh13]

Cacs get offered these jobs all the time and they turn it down.

Suck it up Farmers.

 

[Xyrax]

5 starred dapped and repped. Keep exposing these dumbass cacs that voted for this shyt. Ignorant fukks deserve what's coming to them.

 

[Serious]

The convict laborers that used to be on the prison farms used to be a bunch of druggies and drunks too. You might find stuff impossible, but I promise you that the prisoners productivity would just as high if not higher than an illegal immigrants; especially if the sentences were getting reduced based upon production. Btw, there are over 2 million people incarcerated in the USA.

Here is the Parchment Prison Farm in Mississippi.

This is some sad shyt

 

[acri1]

Excuse me if I'm not very sympathetic.

 

[fact]

I find it very hard to believe that the majority of farm owners voted for trump. I work in the produce industry, and I have been for over 25 years. As slack jawed as half of these farmers are, they know how their fields get cropped, they know about how climate change affects their crops, etc.. I guess it all depends on his plans for government subsidiaries for poor crops, which a lot of farmers rely on, and pulling out of the tpp may help some of them, as a lot of produce is imported (more than you would think).

 

[Colilluminati]

I know brehs who would do that for $11 a hour . You'd be surprised

 

[Samori Toure]

I know brehs who would do that for $11 a hour . You'd be surprised

I am pretty sure that most people know somebody that will work for that amount. This whole illegal immigration argument about Americans not working for a certain amount is based in just plain old dishonesty.

 

[brick james]

I am pretty sure that most people know somebody that will work for that amount. This whole illegal immigration argument about Americans not working for a certain amount is based in just plain old dishonest.

It's not about not working for a certain amount, it's about how hard the work is. Most people would rather live off of handouts than do taxing field work day in and day out.

 

[Wild self]

Agriculture can survive without illegals. Farmers have to pay the proper wage to hire legal workers. Or they need to leave commercial farming to the farmers that can afford to pay the legal wage. That is capitalism.

Someone is taking hoards of profits and becoming multi millionaires

 

[rantanamo]

would be curious to see some stats on this. I can't speak much on this industry, but I've always found the scale and science of it interesting. Some crops are easy to automate and you've seen labor be phased out while others are delicate and don't ripen uniformly so its been harder to eliminate large scale labor. So from what I understand there has been a labor shortage for a while, and many of these jobs have moved up to paying $15/$16/hour in many instances. There's also a lot of research going into creating uniformly ripening tender produce so that "dumb" machines can pick or harvest them without waste. Will be interesting to see where prices go if the shortage worsens. Lots of farmers giving it up I'm guessing and wages being driven up. If gas prices go up again in the short term, you can bet there will be a new guest worker program. I would love to say anyone will just go out and take these jobs, but I have no clue if its true or not even at $15/hr. What I will say is no way some of these states give this up and let Canada, Mexico and Chile feed us.