Farm owners voted for Trump, now they're afraid they'll lose their Latino workers

[Tom Foolery]

It's not about not working for a certain amount, it's about how hard the work is. Most people would rather live off of handouts than do taxing field work day in and day out.

It's not just about hard work. it's about being taken advantage of. Most people have a basic knowledge of labor laws, so exploiting them will be much difficult to impossible.

 

[Samori Toure]

It's not about not working for a certain amount, it's about how hard the work is. Most people would rather live off of handouts than do taxing field work day in and day out.

That is a lie. People have always worked day in and day out in fields. Most people families in the USA originally came from farms so hard work day in and day out for a decent wage is not a problem.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Wealth can't exist without poverty. Besides that, fukk'em

 

[Robbie3000]

I am pretty sure that most people know somebody that will work for that amount. This whole illegal immigration argument about Americans not working for a certain amount is based in just plain old dishonest.

It happened in Georgia. Georgia passed harsh illegal alien laws and Mexicans left in droves. The farmers tried, but failed to recruit American workers. Crops died in the fields.

Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops


1. People are not going to migrate from city centers to rural areas to work back breaking jobs at the current wages or for a slight increase.
2. Farmers can't significantly raise wages because their profit margins are already razor thin due to pricing pressures from large scale purchasers like Walmart and other Super Market chains.
3. Average wages for Americans haven't increased in decades so many of us have become dependent on low cost goods from places like Walmart.

 

[Robbie3000]

LOL. They don't do shyt these days, because they don't give them shyt to do. And I am pretty sure that they are not going to take the crazy ones out there. But those drug offenders and addicts in lock up about to get in shape, because those big ass farms are going to work the shyt out of them. And where will people escape to? They would have dogs and drones and shotguns on their asses before they ever left the field. Chain gangs coming back.

So you are in favor of this?

Do you know the racist history of forced prison labor? This was standard practice after the civil war. They used to capture former slaves on trumped up charges and make them work for their former owners.

Educate yourself dummy.

 

[levitate]

fukk them all.

 

[BillBanneker]

It happened in Georgia. Georgia passed harsh illegal alien laws and Mexicans left in droves. The farmers tried, but failed to recruit American workers. Crops died in the fields.

Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops


1. People are not going to migrate from city centers to rural areas to work back breaking jobs at the current wages or for a slight increase.
2. Farmers can't significantly raise wages because their profit margins are already razor thin due to pricing pressures from large scale purchasers like Walmart and other Super Market chains.
3. Average wages for Americans haven't increased in decades so many of us have become dependent on low cost goods from places like Walmart.

Thank you. Farm hands have never made descent money and is a industry too sensitive to high costs and they damn ain't sure going to pay black people "good" wages to do that kind of job. These MAGA folks ain't going to walmarts to buy some 20 dollar peaches and strawberries.

 

[Samori Toure]

So you are in favor of this?

Do you know the racist history of forced prison labor? This was standard practice after the civil war. They used to capture former slaves on trumped up charges and make them work for their former owners.

Educate yourself dummy.

I know the history of it. I said it was coming. I never said that I was in favor of it. I said that it was coming. I actually linked videos to Angola and that work farm in Mississippi; so clearly I knew of it.

 

[mbewane]

all these :larry:are so stupid and easily manipulated.

These farmers will go out of business.

The majority of blue collar workers will not get jobs when he raises tariffs, and drops trade agreements. They'll be worse off when inflation goes up and they're further down the food chain

zero sympathy

these are the jobs that we're missing out on if you ask retards like twism or thereal

This quote from the article shows that people that claim to be capitalists are full of shyt:

“If you only have legal labor, certain parts of this industry and this region will not exist,” said Harold McClarty, a fourth-generation farmer in Kingsburg whose operation grows, packs and ships peaches, plums and grapes throughout the country. “If we sent all these people back, it would be a total disaster.”

Capitalism states that if a business can not compete then it is supposed to die. The labor laws require employers to hire legal workers and to pay "x" dollars. If business can not hire legal workers and pay them "x" dollars then it is supposed to die. That is capitalism. The sumbytch that owns that farm is admitting that he is against capitalism, but he would be the first a$$hole railing against socialism.

By the way the argument pushed by that a$$hole farmer is the same one that slaveowners used to justify keeping slavery. fukk him and his business and good riddance.

"Competition is great for everybody!"

*colludes with all the other business owners to control prices so there is no competition*

"Liberals are lazy and just want a handout from the government!"

*receives billions in subsidies*

"I'm a red-blooded, hard-working, God-fearing American!"

*never actually works, hires Mexicans, pays them shyt, threatens them with deportation, calls the pastor a fakkit because his sermon went long and he missed the first quarter of the big game*

It happened in Georgia. Georgia passed harsh illegal alien laws and Mexicans left in droves. The farmers tried, but failed to recruit American workers. Crops died in the fields.

Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops


1. People are not going to migrate from city centers to rural areas to work back breaking jobs at the current wages or for a slight increase.
2. Farmers can't significantly raise wages because their profit margins are already razor thin due to pricing pressures from large scale purchasers like Walmart and other Super Market chains.
3. Average wages for Americans haven't increased in decades so many of us have become dependent on low cost goods from places like Walmart.

Whole thread is like a class of how to debunk hypocritical capitalism and the whole "they're taking our jobs" crew

 

[Samori Toure]

It happened in Georgia. Georgia passed harsh illegal alien laws and Mexicans left in droves. The farmers tried, but failed to recruit American workers. Crops died in the fields.

Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops


1. People are not going to migrate from city centers to rural areas to work back breaking jobs at the current wages or for a slight increase.
2. Farmers can't significantly raise wages because their profit margins are already razor thin due to pricing pressures from large scale purchasers like Walmart and other Super Market chains.
3. Average wages for Americans haven't increased in decades so many of us have become dependent on low cost goods from places like Walmart.

One of the tenets of capitalism is that those farmers are supposed to go out of business, because they couldn't pay enough to attract legal workers.

Why are people like you in favor of modern day slavery?

Because that is what is happening in the exploitation of these human beings that are being brought in mostly from Central and South America.

Edit:

And the reason that the goods are so cheap at Walmart is because Walmart is using suppliers that are using poorly paid laborers too. Hell Walmart has poorly paid laborers. I will never understand people that don't support fair wages for all, but are pushing a narrative of keeping the illegal immigrants in place because they are good for business; which is doing nothing but making people at the top of the pyramid even richer and pushing the overall wages of everybody down.

 

[Robbie3000]

One of the tenets of capitalism is that those farmers are supposed to go out of business, because they couldn't pay enough to attract legal workers.

Why are people like you in favor of modern day slavery?

Because that is what is happening in the exploitation of these human beings that are being brought in mostly from Central and South America.

I'm not. I'm simply showing that draconian anti-illegal immigration laws have back fired in the past. The problem is much deeper than illegal immigration, they are just the easiest political targets. As long as working class and middle class Americans are busy hating illegal immigrants, they don't question why a large share of income and wealth as a result of productivity growth has gone to a very small percentage of people in this country. The graph below is what we should be discussing. We can get rid of all the immigrants, but if we don't address this graph, it won't make our lives any better. We will just need another boogie man to scapegoat.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

So trump stopped them from basically employing slave labor

They did the right thing

So what we gonna do then fool???

 

[Kilgore Trout]

So what we gonna do then fool???

I'd rather live in a world where everyone's is paid a fair wage even if it means paying a few more pennies per orange.

 

[Samori Toure]

I'd rather live in a world where everyone's is paid a fair wage even if it means paying a few more pennies per orange.

It is amazing seeing the number of people that are in favor of slavery.

The illegal immigrants have no rights. They can not complain to anybody about anything. They can not complain about not getting paid; or about their work conditions; or about harassment; rape; intimidation; racism; lack of healthcare; or anything. When it happens in Ivory Coast the Americans call it slavery and the people being exploited are called slaves, but when it happens in USA the Americans call it free enterprise and the people being exploited are called undocumented workers.

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

It is amazing seeing the number of people that are in favor of slavery.

The illegal immigrants have no rights. They can not complain to anybody about anything. They can not complain about not getting paid; or about their work conditions; or about harassment; rape; intimidation; racism; lack of healthcare; or anything. When it happens in Ivory Coast the Americans call it slavery and the people being exploited are called slaves, but when it happens in USA the Americans call it free enterprise and the people being exploited are called undocumented workers.

Breh this needs its own thread