Fat Joe getting drug for saying Latinos created hip hop

[K.O.N.Y]

The "Latins (Ricans) being there from the start" and their place in its history ISN'T a new topic. There are numerous books, articles, dissertations, and docus that touch on the validity of the claim which have nothing to do with "FBA" twitter-youtube. If you read/seen any of the sources I mentioned above, you would know that "blacks" have been/always said Ricans were the first outsiders to become involved in the culture but I always point out that they WERE NOT pioneers/foundational to the culture.


fat joe ain't gonna post this one




"I commented on their (Ricans) contributions to HipHop but HipHop was/is an African-American thing, culturally" - Caz

Caz has stated the truth many times, I don't know why he's scared to say what he's said numerous times before




Caz was on a Nuyorican history docu (2006) saying w/o hesitation that the earliest bboys were all black and then ricans came in later after being influenced by them.





There was no blowback from the Rican pioneers in the docu because they knew it was 100% true

I think Breh runs a hip hop tour
So he probably feels like he needs to be as p.c as possible

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I am not sure if we should call it "admitting". They are simply telling the truth the way it is and went. But I do get the point you made.

Over here in Holland (Netherlands) we got to learn about Hip Hop in the early 80s, when the Hip Hop started to spread as a new youth phenomenon to us. But we already understood it was Black American culture. As I said before, I had conversations with the Jungle Brothers and Afrika Baby Bam agreed with me on the importance of passing on the history of Hip Hop, while Mike G was upset with me for saying these things. I think by now he has a different view and opinion on this. At least I hope so.

I say "admit" because popular media of the 1980s positioned Ricans as the creators of bboying to the masses ,and only the early 1970s black pioneering (and the rican pioneers that followed them in the mid to late 1970s) OG's would have known this was false since they were there from the start. A lot of people in the mainstream, only have 1 point of origin for bboying history and that's Crazy Legs/Rock Steady Crew. Crazy Legs is really an early 1980s bboy...he never met/knew the true pioneers that influenced even the Ricans that came in the late 1970s.


bboys that dance with Dj Smokey and later, Herc in the early 1970s



Legs finally meeting some of them



black OG from the zulu kings era mentioning guys that predate RSC



the latinos that really came in during the 1975-1978 era before Crazy Rock steady

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

I love it. People gotta start showing the proper respect.

 

[Ish Gibor]

I say "admit" because popular media of the 1980s positioned Ricans as the creators of bboying to the masses ,and only the early 1970s black pioneering (and the rican pioneers that followed them in the mid to late 1970s) OG's would have known this was false since they were their from the start. A lot of people in the mainstream, only have 1 point of origin for bboying history and that's Crazy Legs/Rock Steady Crew. Crazy Legs is really an early 1980s bboy...he never met/knew the true pioneers that influenced even the Ricans that came in the late 1970s.


bboys that dance with Dj Smokey and later, Herc in the early 1970s



Legs finally meeting some of them



black OG from the zulu kings era mentioning guys that predate RSC



the latinos that really came in during the 1975-1978 era before Crazy Rock steady

That’s true. The Rock Steady Crew was seen as progenitor of Breaking. Meanwhile it was the Black Spades B Boys.

I assume if these had been Latin, they would have found some Spanish word for B Boy and Black Spades.

I wonder how they are going to explain away the 5% and B Boy stance?

Fat Joe and cohorts have a lot of explaining to do.

 

[Tair]

You will not beleive the stories and claims I have heard ever since the late 80s. Germans have claimed it. But other Germans denounced that. It was in a documentary. I once heard East Indians claim it as well.

But this one is the most ridiculous.

By Simon Johnson, 28 December 2008 • 3:03pm:

Access Restricted

Rap music originated in the medieval taverns of Scotland rather than the mean streets of the Bronx and Brooklyn, an American academic has claimed.

Professor Ferenc Szasz argued that so-called rap battles, where two or more performers trade elaborate insults, derive from the ancient Caledonian art of "flyting".

According to the theory, Scottish slave owners took the tradition with them to the United States, where it was adopted and developed by slaves, emerging many years later as rap.

Professor Szasz is convinced there is a clear link between this tradition for settling scores in Scotland and rap battles, which were famously portrayed in Eminem's 2002 movie 8 Mile.

He said: "The Scots have a lengthy tradition of flyting - intense verbal jousting, often laced with vulgarity, that is similar to the dozens that one finds among contemporary inner-city African-American youth.

"Both cultures accord high marks to satire. The skilled use of satire takes this verbal jousting to its ultimate level - one step short of a fist fight."

The academic, who specialises in American and Scottish culture at the University of New Mexico, made the link in a new study examining the historical context of Robert Burn's work.

The most famous surviving example of flyting comes from a 16th-century piece in which two rival poets hurl increasingly obscene rhyming insults at one another before the Court of King James IV.

Titled the Flyting Of Dunbar And Kennedy, it has been described by academics as "just over 500 lines of filth".

Professor Szasz cites an American civil war poem, printed in the New York Vanity Fair magazine on November 9, 1861, as the first recorded example of the battles being used in the United States.

Professor Willie Ruff, of Yale University, agreed that Scottish slave owners had a profound impact on the development of African American music traditions.

Comparing flyting and rap battles, he said: "Two people engage in ritual verbal duelling and the winner has the last word in the argument, with the loser falling conspicuously silent."

I was hoping to forget the 'Top That' video. I was about to neg you for posting it. That video is the ultimate cringe.

But damn, they really trying to lay claim to music they derided and lambasted. They even said it was a fad that would die before the year 2000, but now they want to lay claim?

Shameless.

 

[Bunchy Carter]

Puerto Ricans did help create hip hop.

Fat joe still sucks doe!

 

[boriquaking]

I never said they get sole credit yiu stupid hoe

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

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It was literally black and puerto ricans

 

[boriquaking]

What did PR's help to bring into existence?

Definition of CREATE

to bring into existence; to invest with a new form, office, or rank; to produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

So what did they create? Names, dates places etc… is what we are asking for...

Nobody seems to understand this question when asked.



Kool Keith:

Here's a little story that must be told
Ah yes, yes y'all and you don't stop
Here's a little story that must be told
You're listenin' to the sounds, of the best MC, in the world
Kool Keith, go off and go off

I got a flier in my hand, Bambaataa with Cold Crush
The place is packed, with Johnny Wa and Rayon
Lovely ladies smellin' sweet, with a lot of Avon
Jazzy Jay by my side, Charlie Chase behind me

Flash and Theodore, super cuts that blind me
Catch a Groove is the rhythm, spinnin' back and forth
From the East and the Valley, swingin' back up North
Towards the South Bronx, Euceda Park and Webster

The speakers are pumpin', power bass is thumpin'
With the Ultra mega amp, keepin' pep up, jumpin'
From side to side, the double meters will peak
They had some good MC's, a lot of them, they was weak

They no style with no metaphor, no voice to speak
Melle Mel had the best rhymes, rankin' with Caz
Kool Moe tried to get down but I made him sit down
With that metaphor quickness, you bite and you bit this

Stop and go turn, see the flame and go burn
To ashes to ashes, dust to dust
Seven years later toy you still crusty crust
Your old rhymes are rust, very dirty and dusty

And under your arms you're kickin' power and musty
Get out of my way, and let the rhythm path roll
Let me run up the charts, freak a rhyme turn gold
While you're listenin', I throw a buzz in your ear
Bust the facts

Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger
Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger

Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger

Now swing your partner around, dosey-dosey
Like musical chairs and ring around the Rosie
The party you pace see, Kool Herc with J.C.
The Herculoids battle, The Disco Twins

Funky rhymes with break beats, the DJ spins
For the L Brothers, steppin' right in the scene
Mean Gene was maxin', Rockin' Rob went to work
While the tables would turn, the old needles used to jerk

With the belt drive, Technics and B-1's
With the orange light shinin', the red on D-1's
Direct drive and Nova, I'm chillin' with G.L.O.B.E.
Mr. Biggs and Pow-Wow, Monk and Superman

Pullin' out that Olde E, that funky funky 40 ounce
Ikey C from Cosmic, the bass bottom bounce
Red Alert in the booth, the T-Connection to mix
Silly rabbit you know my style has Trix

To go on, to the next line, to the break of dawn
While I move up step, to the early early morn
With a hip-hop drink and some rhyme popcorn
Never smokin' or sniffin' or ever jokin' or riffin'

Because it's time to plex more, and rhyme fantastic
Donald Rock and Whipper Whip, neither rapper was plastic
Back in the days, you had to be so sarcastic
To stretch out a rhyme and make it double elastic

You learn new jack, step back and be wack
You know what time it is boy and every mic I smoke
Bust the facts

Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger
Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger

Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger
Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger

Later on at the Boys Club, while Tom excel
I got a name for your brain that surely rings a bell
Patti Duke had the nice hands, swift with Billy Boy
Playin' James Brown records, you stupid you silly boy

Bongo Rockin', hard where the rhythm go
You fake and pass, Busy Bee give and go
To the AJ Scratch, a funky beat that matched
With a two-second break, that was hard to catch

DST was mixin', slicin' with his elbows
Freakin' the wheels, loopin' rhymes, here we go
To the master faster, speed up and go faster
Turn my JVC to mega power and blast the

Mario tape, yes The Disco King
With the b-side The Funky Drums, no new jack swing
Happy rappers with polka dots, were bound to get stuck
You had the Zulus the Nine crew, you're pushin' your luck

The Casanovas was maxin' all scheamin' to duck
You had The Black Spades, plus The Savage Skulls
Gang bangin' was over, neither crew is exist
They got a job and a wife, a pretty woman to kiss

So on the rhymes kept rollin', straight up into disco
Eddie Chiba was sweet G and back up to Cisko
And freakier Islam, with the Great Love Squids
Spinnin' high-top beats, can you check it, you dig
Kool Keith out smokin', my lyrics are hot
Bust the facts

Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger
Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger

Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger
Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger

Here you go

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

www.hot97.com

 

[boriquaking]

Why say something that you aren't sure about, as a fact?

I see you don't know, and just repeating what you THINK you know, but if people ae saying different, why not ask questions to see why they would say that?

is it because you don't care about the truth?

Or is this about competition, and you gotta represent for your people?

BE HONEST, PLEASE!

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

www.hot97.com

You’re just a pretender, b

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I never said they get sole credit yiu stupid hoe

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

www.hot97.com

It was literally black and puerto ricans

Na. The first Ricans of note came into the game around 1975-1977 era. The true flood of Ricans came in around 1978-early 1980s. These are the earliest Rican notables





whipper whip started rapping in 1978. Listen to his own words about how common/uncommon puerto ricans were in hiphop when he came in



Whipper Whip member of the Mighty Force


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Disco Wiz 1975

Luis Cedeño, famously known as DJ Disco Wiz, was the first Latino DJ. DJ Disco Wiz was born and grew up in the Bronx, After attending DJ Kool Herc’s jam and getting inspired, In 1975, DJ Disco Wiz joined forces with his friend Casanova Fly (Grandmaster Caz) to form a group called the Mighty Force. The group was one of the first DJ crews in the Bronx and they would battle other DJs in the South Bronx streets, venues, community centers, and more.

DJ Disco Wiz wrote a book titled ‘It’s Just Begun: The Epic Journey of DJ Disco Wiz, Hip Hop’s First Latino DJ’ in 2009, he told Village Voice that same year, “People were opinionated about my role as a predominantly Spanish person doing something that was perceived as black culture,” because “Most Latinos were listening to disco and salsa then.”

dailyrapfacts.com/23176/dj-disco-wiz-was-the-first-latino-dj/

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SIR NORIN RAD:"Willie Will (legendary Puerto Rican B-Boy from Rockwell Association) told me about how we was introduced to that original Black B-Boy Style of dancing which you referred to as The Go Off in 1976 by a B-Boy called Chopper that was down with the Zulu Nation. What was the relationship between TBB and the Zulu Nation? Was there any kind of contact at all?"

ABY:"Again, I was younger. I was too young to even understand the difference between Black and Puerto Rican. But to my brothers...to the older guys there was a barrier....there was a line between Blacks and Latinos. I mean look at the gangs back then...the Black Spades were all black and then you had the Ghetto Brothers which were all Latinos....so there was a division at first. I remember the Zulu Kings only from late 1976/77 that's when we really got involved. That's also when Batch had his meeting with the Zulu Nation..1977. TBB and members of the Zulu Nation they used to have rumbles.....they would fight against each other. Whatever jam they went to they would rumble. If there was a jam and TBB was chilling there and all of a sudden some one threw hands Batch would summon TBB Joe's division who was known as the warlord division meaning thay handled all the rumbles or one on one fight make sure no one jumped in !! . One of the first black DJs that I ever met was Lay Lay. He was from Fun PM City Crew and they was all black but they was kool cause they were from the block.We never had problems in 129 Mapes Pool. Lay Lay would get cutting and we would start dancing !! Back then we danced more with the girls than against each other .. But when we heard "It's Just Begun" or Babe Ruth "Mexican" or "Bongo Rock"... forget about it! Floor rockers hit the flooooorrrrrrr,!!! Cypher set and battles was for respect not money .. You had to be there to truly understand and smell the air and feel the excitement when the cat you was battling burned you the last time and you been practicing all week long for the moment you let it all out on the concrete ... Damn miss em days ."


DJ Lay Lay & The Fun City Crew rocking with The L-Brothers and The Mercedes Ladies in 1979


SIR NORIN RAD:"So you're saying there was a lot of tension between TBB and members the Zulu Nation?"

ABY:"There was! There was a lot of tension out there."

SIR NORIN RAD:"And all that beef was squashed at that meeting?"

ABY:"Batch had his meeting with Bam at the Webster projects on Zulu Nation turf in 1977. After that meeting they squashed it. I don't know how come Bam never spoke of this because it's such an important part of the history. It identifies with unity between Latinos and Blacks. So I don't know why he never acknowledged it."

Castles In The Sky







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Ruby Dee is Puerto Rican came after Whipper Whip (1978-1979)



says that the crowds were all "black" when he first came in and then when Ricans saw they had someone repping for them, they started flooding the jams

No, it was a coincidence that we were together. I went to the L- Brothers practice but I first got down with Butchie Gee and them. I have to say if it wasn’t for me seeing D.J. A.J. I would not have been a rapper at all. With the L- Brothers that was Gene’s thing. Their manager at the time was a Jamaican guy named Trevor, you hear it in the rhyme. “And Trevor is our manager and were down with the L- Brothers crew!” One day I was in front of Theodore’s house 168th street and Boston Road. I was just hanging out on the stoop. If I wasn’t playing baseball, that was the place to be. Mean Gene came up to me and said “hey come over here, I want to talk to you.” He took me down the hill to Webster Avenue. Kev and Rob were standing by the stoop. They take me up the stairs to this weed spot that everybody used to cop weed from. You would knock on the door and some one would look through the peep hole and you would pass 5 or 3 dollars through. You would wait a minute and a nickel or tray bag would come through. You had to know these people to be able to get weed from them, and I was known by hanging out with the L- Brothers. Plus I was becoming pretty popular with the softball and the music. In my neck of the woods I was the man. The first thing Kev said to me when we stepped inside was “you are going to listen to what the F--- I tell you.” He let me know that he was the man. Rob said we are going to put you down with a real crew.



Those were Kev’s exact words, “you are going to listen to what the F--- I tell you.”

(Ruby Dee laughs.) Yeah that was probably word for word what he said pretty much in a nut shell. But that was said in a nice way, it wasn’t sarcastic or threatening! If I thought it was disrespectful they would have had to tag team me, because I was also one of those type of dudes you can’t tell me nothing. I was 19 years old 187lb.s and I was one of those dudes that was not having it, and I hit first.

When I got up there they were sitting on top of the speakers. I was a little scared because I was like this is the weed spot, and with all these black dudes they are going to lynch me. It was hang a Puerto Rican day today. I don’t know. I was like whoa! They were all there, Theodore, Gene, Kev, Rob and Busy Bee. It wasn’t a try out, Kevin and Rob just came out and said you are down.



What were your feelings on that?



Well at the time I really didn’t know what I was doing. I was just proud to be there! I did feel like now I can get some of my people in the party.


I knew about the fame and how big it was getting but this was really just something I did as a hobby but it started to get good and I started to make money. The first party I did at the P.A.L. I made $87! They gave me 87 one dollar bills. Whooooooa!



(We both start laughing.)



I think at that time minimum wage was $2.75 to $3.35 an hour at that time. What I made that night was what some cats was getting in a whole week.



That’s right.



So I remember them giving me $87 in singles in the bathroom. I remember thinking I know they screwing me over by giving me a whole pack of ones so I don’t say anything, but that’s cool! (Ruby in a serious voice then says) Maybe I am wrong, maybe that did not go down like that. I just remember when we were in the bathroom when they paid me and I was like “look at these marenos, these black guys giving me all these ones to make it look like a big knot.” I thought about that. I am not going to deny it. I said “look at these mother f------! It’s cool (Ruby Dee is laughing now.) keep jerking me.” But I found out we were all getting paid equally later on. In the beginning, and I am just using a number, say if Kev and Rob got a hundred dollars for the show I would get eighty dollars!



Say word!



That was just for a couple of shows but after awhile I was like “hey when we were first doing parties it was all black crowds, but now you got all these Puerto Rican people coming to see me, they are not coming to see ya’ll or just ya’ll!” To shift gears for a minute, I remember saying “Va Ya!” And Kev said “Puerto Rico!” they said “Ho”! That’s how that was invented.



Do you remember any other Spanish emcees or D.J.s back then?



Charlie Chase, Disco Wiz….



Disco Wiz was Caz D.J. right?



Right, he was Puerto Rican. I really don’t remember any one else. Whip was probably out before me, but I got the credit of being the first Puerto Rican. When I got on stage you knew I was Puerto Rican! I talked Spanish on the mic.



Did you ever have Spanish rhymes?



Yeah we had one routine when we battled the Funky 4 at the Audubon Ballroom. We all had our own rhyme to say when it was your turn. When it was my turn I said in Spanish Ruby Dee the romantic and Kev said hold up and one by one Dot, Whip and Rob said hold up! Hold Up, Hold Up, Hold Up! Ruby Dee, Ruby Dee, Ruby Dee Ruby Dee this is not Puerto Rico this is America. Boom then I bust into Fantastic Romantic Five, and the whole crew would then come in.

Ruby Dee of The Jr

 

[Ish Gibor]

Here you go

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

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I wonder if you have read the article yourself? Nowhere does it speak of any Puerto Rican Pioneer, let alone Latin (Paraguay, Argentine, Guatemala) etc.

Perhaps you can highlight the part that makes it outstanding?

Also, what Latin songs did Herc mix into these alleged breaks, if he himself admitted he played American music, and predominately Black American music?

We have original 1st Devision Black Spades telling us what music was played. These people were part of the 1st generation of B-Boys, they were there. The people from Hot79 weren't there, nor was Fat Joe with his 50/50 babble. It was in reality more like 90% Black America 10% Rican American. And yes, there was Ricans in the Black Spades.

"He made his mark by often infusing Latin music inside of break beats to combine a brand new sound with music from the Caribbean. As part of the Cold Crush Brothers he was part of the first rap group to be signed to CBS Records and co-starred in the classic film Wild Style."

And if this was true, how come we didn't hear any of this during the early and mid-80's, all throughout the Golden Era. All we heard was breakbeats from Funk Disco, Soul and Jazz records. At times breaks from Rock music (which has root in Blues and Rock and Roll). But never Salsa or Merengue.

Please, put forward a playlist… I mean a playlist from the 70's and early to mid-80's where they used Latin music as influence in Hip Hop?


Was it this because of the percussions?

















You probably don't know that we have original 70s and early 80s music tapes, flyers, tickets etc. The evidence is overwhelming and we have reconstructed, deconstructed all this to get to the root of the matter.









Luckily MC Shan made the claim about Queens Bridge, that was misinterpreted by KRS, to which BPD (KRS) responded with South Bronx. Because of that we have this recorded history about the origin of Hip Hop. And with that being said, DJ Doc was a PR member of BDP.


BDP (KRS) - South Bronx





Yo what's up Blastmaster KRS One, this jam is kicking
Word, yo what up D-Nice?

(Yo what's up Scott La Rock?)

Yo man we chilling just funky fresh jam
I want to tell you a little something about us
We're the Boogie Down Productions crew
And due to the fact that no-one else out there knew what time it was
We have to tell you a little story about where we we come from

South Bronx, the South South Bronx

Many people tell me this style is terrific
It is kinda different but let's get specific
KRS-One specialize in music
I'll only use this type of style when I choose it
Party people in the place to be, KRS-One attack
Ya got dropped off MCA cause the rhymes you wrote was wack

So you think that hip-hop had its start out in Queensbridge
If you pop that junk up in the Bronx you might not live

Cause you're in

South Bronx, the South South Bronx

I came with Scott La Rock to express one thing
I am a teacher and others are kings
If that's the title they earn, well it's well deserved, but
Without a crown, see, I still burn
You settle for a pebble not a stone like a rebel
KRS-One is the holder of a boulder, money folder
You want a fresh style let me show ya

Now way back in the days when hip-hop began
With Coke LaRock, Kool Herc, and then Bam
Beat boys ran to the latest jam
But when it got shot up they went home and said "Damn
There's got to be a better way to hear our music every day
B-boys getting blown away but coming outside anyway"
They tried again outside in Cedar Park
Power from a street light made the place dark
But yo, they didn't care, they turned it out
I know a few understand what I'm talking about
Remember Bronx River, rolling thick
With Kool DJ Red Alert and Chuck Chillout on the mix
When Afrika Islam was rocking the jams
And on the other side of town was a kid named Flash
Patterson and Millbrook projects
Casanova all over, ya couldn't stop it
The Nine Lives Crew, the Cypress Boys
The real Rock Steady taking out these toys
As odd as it looked, as wild as it seems
I didn't hear a peep from a place called Queens
It was seventy-six to 1980
The dreads in Brooklyn was crazy
You couldn't bring out your set with no hip-hop
Because the pistols would go
So why don't you wise up, show all the people in the place that you are wack
Instead of tryna take out LL, you need to take your homeboys off the crack
Cause if you don't, well, then their nerves will become shot
And that would leave the job up to my own Scott La Rock

And he's from

South Bronx, the South South Bronx

The human TR-808, D-Nice
The poet, the Blastmaster KRS-ONE
The Grand Incredible DJ Scott La Rock

Boogie Down Productions

Fresh for '86, you suckers!

 

[Bunchy Carter]

I never said they get sole credit yiu stupid hoe

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

www.hot97.com

It was literally Black American people who created and are the foundation of Hip Hop

 

[Ish Gibor]

Na. The first Ricans of note came into the game around 1975-1977 era. The true flood of Ricans came in around 1978-early 1980s. These are the earliest Rican notables

In todays terms and to some people terms this doesn't seem long, but it was long for the time and the development this took place. It was a diamond in the rough.

The chronology is of upmost importance.

It's a bit how some folks misconstrue what old school is. Not too long ago I saw on YouTube a mixtape with so called old school, with Eminem on the thumbnail.

Some people called the golden era from the 90s "old school". I then point out "The Leaders Of The New School" who came out in 1991/2, and ask them to explain it. Of course they can't. It's usually people who lack knowledge on Hip Hop. It's usually people who can't name five pioneering MC's.

I did notice that these Ricans in the early days usually were Afro-Ricans.

whipper whip started rapping in 1978. Listen to his own words about how common/uncommon puerto ricans were in hiphop when he came in



Whipper Whip member of the Mighty Force


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Disco Wiz 1975





dailyrapfacts.com/23176/dj-disco-wiz-was-the-first-latino-dj/

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The jungle bunny thing was a bit ironic, since Latin music mostly has African percussion, or African replaced percussions.

I remember being at a music store years ago looking for gear. Each coworker there had one hour playtime, and one coworker was this Brazilian (I assume) guy, he played his theme music and the other coworkers who happened to be white smiled at each other (the way whites can be racist without saying one word). The Brazilian guy and I looked at each other and understood what was going on. I felt his anger and pain, the disdain they had for him.

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Ruby Dee is Puerto Rican came after Whipper Whip (1978-1979)



says that the crowds were all "black" when he first came in and then when Ricans saw they had someone repping for them, they started flooding the jams

Ruby Dee of The Jr

Lee Quinones from Wild Style

 

[Ish Gibor]

100%: A History Of Puerto Rican's Influence In Hip Hop

It all started at a birthday party in the Bronx. On August 11, 1973, a party at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue became the birth of hip hop as DJ Kool Herc put two turntables together and created the break beat. That was the day hip hop was born. For 50+ years this revolution has taken over […]

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You’re just a pretender, b

You pretend this doesn't exist.

 

[Ish Gibor]

It was literally Black American people who created and are the foundation of Hip Hop

Ricans like other Caribbeans have a place in Hip Hop history where they contributed, but it needs to be an honest place according to truth and respect for Black American history. According to the chronology of what happened, who when and where…

For example Public Enemy had a second DJ who was Rican. Dj Johnny Juice.