Fat Joe getting drug for saying Latinos created hip hop

[Ish Gibor]

nikka are you stupid. This thread said, Fat Joe catching hell, all I see is Tariq Nasheed followers aka fba. Nobody else gives a shyt about this hating ass bullshyt

I’m not FBA, I’m from overseas but grew up with “FBA”. As far as those days we already realized this was Black Americans (sub-) culture.

This is important when you actually understand the history of America. Black Americans created Jazz, House, Rock&Roll, Blues etc.. but look who was made the face of it? Logically Black Americans take issues with this, when you have to keep fighting over your own culture and acknowledgments.

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[IllmaticDelta]

nice vid

 

[truth2you]

Why say Latinos, when it was just Puerto Ricans. Wasn't no other Latinos.

Thats how i know this is a unified lie, and there is an agenda

back in the day it was about Puerto Ricans in hip hop, now its all latins? AGENDA!

 

[Ish Gibor]

DJ Kool Herc created Hip Hip and Grand Wizard Theodore created scratching with Turntables. Latinos just contributed in the Break dancing element of hip hop. I think the first person to start breaking was Latino. Graffiti was first done by a black man from Philly named “cornbread”

/Thread

Do you realize the early B Boys (Bronx Boys) was Black Spades? Are you now claiming the early Black Spades was actually "Latinos" (Puerto Ricans). I mean there was Ricans in the Black Spades, but it's not as if they made up the majority or were the founders.

 

[King Sun]

Never have I seen some many people get worked up by this until now and like that dude that got banned said this discourse only exits on the coli/ and fba twitter.

 

[boriquaking]

Puerto Ricans did help create hip hop.

Fat joe still sucks doe!

 

[King Sun]

Puerto Ricans did help create hip hop.

Fat joe still sucks doe!

That's why this discussion is stupid man.

 

[truth2you]

Puerto Ricans did help create hip hop.

Fat joe still sucks doe!

Why say something that you aren't sure about, as a fact?

I see you don't know, and just repeating what you THINK you know, but if people ae saying different, why not ask questions to see why they would say that?

is it because you don't care about the truth?

Or is this about competition, and you gotta represent for your people?

BE HONEST, PLEASE!

 

[Ish Gibor]

How could the first person to start breaking be Latino when Ricans themselves admit they were taught the dance by "black" people?

but if you don't believe that, here it is straight from their own mouths




like I said before, the OG Rican pioneers always tell the truth


OG Rican bboy telling the truth about breakdancing's origins












Castles In The Sky: Interview with B-Boy Jojo (The Rock Steady Crew)



^^he's an early founder of the first lineup of the Rock Steady Crew


another jewel dropped from Rock Steady Crew pioneer:

mr wiggles basically admits that ricans were like 2nd and 3rd generation bboys

I am not sure if we should call it "admitting". They are simply telling the truth the way it is and went. But I do get the point you made.

Over here in Holland (Netherlands) we got to learn about Hip Hop in the early 80s, when the Hip Hop started to spread as a new youth phenomenon to us. But we already understood it was Black American culture. As I said before, I had conversations with the Jungle Brothers and Afrika Baby Bam agreed with me on the importance of passing on the history of Hip Hop, while Mike G was upset with me for saying these things. I think by now he has a different view and opinion on this. At least I hope so.

 

[boriquaking]

Why say something that you aren't sure about, as a fact?

I see you don't know, and just repeating what you THINK you know, but if people ae saying different, why not ask questions to see why they would say that?

is it because you don't care about the truth?

Or is this about competition, and you gotta represent for your people?

BE HONEST, PLEASE!

are you from the south?

 

[King Sun]

Tbh if we want to keep it real black people in LA was popping locking before break dancing was a thing if we want to start petty beefs

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Never have I seen some many people get worked up by this until now and like that dude that got banned said this discourse only exits on the coli/ and fba twitter.

The "Latins (Ricans) being there from the start" and their place in its history ISN'T a new topic. There are numerous books, articles, dissertations, and docus that touch on the validity of the claim which have nothing to do with "FBA" twitter-youtube. If you read/seen any of the sources I mentioned above, you would know that "blacks" have been/always said Ricans were the first outsiders to become involved in the culture but they've always pointed out that they WERE NOT pioneers/foundational to the culture.


fat joe ain't gonna post this one




"I commented on their (Ricans) contributions to HipHop but HipHop was/is an African-American thing, culturally" - Caz

Caz has stated the truth many times, I don't know why he's scared to say what he's said numerous times before




Caz was on a Nuyorican history docu (2006) saying w/o hesitation that the earliest bboys were all black and then ricans came in later after being influenced by them.





There was no blowback from the Rican pioneers in the docu because they knew it was 100% true

 

[8WON6]

 

[Ish Gibor]

Puerto Ricans did help create hip hop.

Fat joe still sucks doe!

What did PR's help to bring into existence?

Definition of CREATE

to bring into existence; to invest with a new form, office, or rank; to produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

That's why this discussion is stupid man.

So what did they create? Names, dates places etc… is what we are asking for...

Nobody seems to understand this question when asked.



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While I move up step, to the early early morn
With a hip-hop drink and some rhyme popcorn
Never smokin' or sniffin' or ever jokin' or riffin'

Because it's time to plex more, and rhyme fantastic
Donald Rock and Whipper Whip, neither rapper was plastic
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To stretch out a rhyme and make it double elastic

You learn new jack, step back and be wack
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Bust the facts

Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
Let's rock, get bigger
Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
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Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
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I got a name for your brain that surely rings a bell
Patti Duke had the nice hands, swift with Billy Boy
Playin' James Brown records, you stupid you silly boy

Bongo Rockin', hard where the rhythm go
You fake and pass, Busy Bee give and go
To the AJ Scratch, a funky beat that matched
With a two-second break, that was hard to catch

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So on the rhymes kept rollin', straight up into disco
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And freakier Islam, with the Great Love Squids
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Kool Keith out smokin', my lyrics are hot
Bust the facts

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Yes, yes y'all
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Innovative
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Yes, yes y'all
Innovative
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[K.O.N.Y]

Never have I seen some many people get worked up by this until now and like that dude that got banned said this discourse only exits on the coli/ and fba twitter.

It’s making rounds

I got into a back and forth with crazy legs himself, on instagram