Fears of societal collapse prompt new push for babies in Japan

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Had an interview lined up over there for Amazon JP and the salary they were offering was half of what I made here. No way would that be livable considering my U.S. obligations/debt.
Years ago the company I worked for closed down a department and shipped it to India and told the people if they wanted to keep they job they could just move to India and work under they new salary.

The salary was almost 3 times less what they were making in the US.

In a meeting the employees scoffed at this and some executive said with a straight face "you will be making the equivalent of 45k a year over there? Do you know how much money 45k is in India? The average pay a year in India is around the equivalent of 8k. You will be making the equivalent of 6 times the pay of the average Indian. What are you complaining about :mjlol:

I mean I know corporate cac execs aint shyt but that was an all timer.

Every single person in that group left and that executive was legit like :dahell: how could you turn down this opportunity to leave in another country and make 6 times what the average person makes:dahell:
 

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Have one of the most stringent immigration policies jrehs :hubie:
Actually they kinda don't. You could join the US military be stationed over there and seed up a THOT (if they'd keep it) and be a Japanese resident.

That's an extreme example but it's almost like the Japanese government knows their women are wenches so they do what they can to keep the wenching to a low level.
 

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Years ago the company I worked for closed down a department and shipped it to India and told the people if they wanted to keep they job they could just move to India and work under they new salary.

The salary was almost 3 times less what they were making in the US.

In a meeting the employees scoffed at this and some executive said with a straight face "you will be making the equivalent of 45k a year over there? Do you know how much money 45k is in India? The average pay a year in India is around the equivalent of 8k. You will be making the equivalent of 6 times the pay of the average Indian. What are you complaining about :mjlol:

I mean I know corporate cac execs aint shyt but that was an all timer.

Every single person in that group left and that executive was legit like :dahell: how could you turn down this opportunity to leave in another country and make 6 times what the average person makes:dahell:

Who the fukk wanna move to India of all places tho?!?:dahell::mjlol:
 

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Actually they kinda don't. You could join the US military be stationed over there and seed up a THOT (if they'd keep it) and be a Japanese resident.

That's an extreme example but it's almost like the Japanese government knows their women are wenches so they do what they can to keep the wenching to a low level.

You don't have to seed anyone up, just get married to a Japanese citizen and you get a "spousal visa" that allows you to stay in the country for as long as you're married. Which can be fairly easy if you aim for some of those passed over "christmas cakes".
 
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Calls grow for drastic steps to address Japan's sliding birth rate​


April 11, 2023 (Mainichi Japan)


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Hiroki Komazaki, the founder and CEO of nonprofit organization Florence. (Photo courtesy of Florence/Kyodo)


TOKYO (Kyodo) -- As the Japanese government launched a new agency to address the declining birth rate, experts are calling for more drastic steps than the measures recently announced by Prime Minister Fumio Kishida.



The Children and Families Agency was created to oversee child policies, including tackling child abuse and poverty, and comes after the number of babies born in the country in 2022 slid below 800,000, a level reached more than a decade sooner than the government had estimated.



At 799,728 births, the figure represented a 5.1 percent drop from the previous year and seventh consecutive annual fall. It marked the first year births had fallen below 800,000 since records began in 1899, according to preliminary government data released in February.



"The faster-than-expected decline in the number of births is a national crisis," said Hiroki Komazaki, the founder and CEO of nonprofit organization Florence, a child welfare aid group. "It is a man-made disaster, as the government failed to take effective measures."



In February, Kishida said his government would double its childcare budget from the current 2 percent of gross domestic product. But the government soon contradicted his pledge, saying it was not setting any specific targets for the size of the budget.

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Hosei University professor Kazumasa Oguro (Photo courtesy of Kazumasa Oguro/Kyodo)


Komazaki said he was disappointed by the backtracking, especially after the prime minister was more decisive about doubling Japan's defense spending over the next five years.

"Setting up a new agency specializing in child-related issues is a really good move. But the government cannot carry out more measures unless the budget is increased," Komazaki said, adding that an additional 6 trillion yen ($45 billion) will be needed each year to support child-rearing households to relieve the financial burden.

The number of newborns in Japan has been on a downtrend since peaking at around 2.09 million in 1973 in the middle of the country's second baby boom. In 1984, the number fell to 1.5 million and dropped below 1 million in 2016.

Although the government introduced various measures including a free preschool education and nursery program as well as boosting support for infertility treatment, they have so far failed to reverse the trend.

Before the launch of the new agency, Kishida announced plans to expand childcare allowances and implement measures to allow 85 percent of eligible male workers to take paternity leave by fiscal 2030, up from 14 percent in fiscal 2021.

"The next six to seven years will be the last chance to turn the declining birth rate around," the prime minister told a press conference on March 17 while vowing to take "unprecedented" steps.

He also warned that the rapid decline in the youth segment of the population will see the economy shrink and bring societal impacts. The country will face difficulty in maintaining the social security system and communities.

Despite the sense of alarm expressed by the prime minister, Kazumasa Oguro, a professor at Hosei University, said measures that are currently on the table are effectively an extension of past policies that have had limited effect on lifting the nation's birth rate.

"The government needs to make a checklist on whether each policy will contribute to increasing births or not," said Oguro, who specializes in public economics. "The government cannot implement unprecedented measures unless it discusses where to concentrate its resources."

To raise the number of births sharply, Oguro proposes giving parents 10 million yen if they have a third child, and 10 million for each after that as an incentive to increase the size of families.

Without such a drastic measure, the number of births in Japan is likely to continue to slide and fall below the 500,000 threshold in 2052, 20 years earlier than the government predicted in 2017, he said.

While a decline in the population will reduce the sustainability of the social security system, it will have a major impact on Japan's diplomacy and security, as the size of the population is correlated with a nation's power, Oguro said.

"At a time when the relationship with China and the international security situation are becoming so tense, population is an important factor," he said

Meanwhile, Florence's Komazaki said people in Japan should share the view that children need to be raised by society as a whole, not only by their parents.

For example, nurseries can be currently attended only by children with working parents but, given cases of child abuse occur more frequently in households with full-time housewives, all parents should have access to the service, he said.

In a draft policy package unveiled Friday, the government will consider introducing a system that would allow families raising children to use daycare centers regardless of the parents' working status.

"We need to shift our mindset to one in which all children are to be raised in local communities, together with their parents," Komazaki said.
 

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Calls grow for drastic steps to address Japan's sliding birth rate​


April 11, 2023 (Mainichi Japan)


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Hiroki Komazaki, the founder and CEO of nonprofit organization Florence. (Photo courtesy of Florence/Kyodo)


TOKYO (Kyodo) -- As the Japanese government launched a new agency to address the declining birth rate, experts are calling for more drastic steps than the measures recently announced by Prime Minister Fumio Kishida.



The Children and Families Agency was created to oversee child policies, including tackling child abuse and poverty, and comes after the number of babies born in the country in 2022 slid below 800,000, a level reached more than a decade sooner than the government had estimated.



At 799,728 births, the figure represented a 5.1 percent drop from the previous year and seventh consecutive annual fall. It marked the first year births had fallen below 800,000 since records began in 1899, according to preliminary government data released in February.



"The faster-than-expected decline in the number of births is a national crisis," said Hiroki Komazaki, the founder and CEO of nonprofit organization Florence, a child welfare aid group. "It is a man-made disaster, as the government failed to take effective measures."



In February, Kishida said his government would double its childcare budget from the current 2 percent of gross domestic product. But the government soon contradicted his pledge, saying it was not setting any specific targets for the size of the budget.

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Hosei University professor Kazumasa Oguro (Photo courtesy of Kazumasa Oguro/Kyodo)


Komazaki said he was disappointed by the backtracking, especially after the prime minister was more decisive about doubling Japan's defense spending over the next five years.

"Setting up a new agency specializing in child-related issues is a really good move. But the government cannot carry out more measures unless the budget is increased," Komazaki said, adding that an additional 6 trillion yen ($45 billion) will be needed each year to support child-rearing households to relieve the financial burden.

The number of newborns in Japan has been on a downtrend since peaking at around 2.09 million in 1973 in the middle of the country's second baby boom. In 1984, the number fell to 1.5 million and dropped below 1 million in 2016.

Although the government introduced various measures including a free preschool education and nursery program as well as boosting support for infertility treatment, they have so far failed to reverse the trend.

Before the launch of the new agency, Kishida announced plans to expand childcare allowances and implement measures to allow 85 percent of eligible male workers to take paternity leave by fiscal 2030, up from 14 percent in fiscal 2021.

"The next six to seven years will be the last chance to turn the declining birth rate around," the prime minister told a press conference on March 17 while vowing to take "unprecedented" steps.

He also warned that the rapid decline in the youth segment of the population will see the economy shrink and bring societal impacts. The country will face difficulty in maintaining the social security system and communities.

Despite the sense of alarm expressed by the prime minister, Kazumasa Oguro, a professor at Hosei University, said measures that are currently on the table are effectively an extension of past policies that have had limited effect on lifting the nation's birth rate.

"The government needs to make a checklist on whether each policy will contribute to increasing births or not," said Oguro, who specializes in public economics. "The government cannot implement unprecedented measures unless it discusses where to concentrate its resources."

To raise the number of births sharply, Oguro proposes giving parents 10 million yen if they have a third child, and 10 million for each after that as an incentive to increase the size of families.

Without such a drastic measure, the number of births in Japan is likely to continue to slide and fall below the 500,000 threshold in 2052, 20 years earlier than the government predicted in 2017, he said.

While a decline in the population will reduce the sustainability of the social security system, it will have a major impact on Japan's diplomacy and security, as the size of the population is correlated with a nation's power, Oguro said.

"At a time when the relationship with China and the international security situation are becoming so tense, population is an important factor," he said

Meanwhile, Florence's Komazaki said people in Japan should share the view that children need to be raised by society as a whole, not only by their parents.

For example, nurseries can be currently attended only by children with working parents but, given cases of child abuse occur more frequently in households with full-time housewives, all parents should have access to the service, he said.

In a draft policy package unveiled Friday, the government will consider introducing a system that would allow families raising children to use daycare centers regardless of the parents' working status.

"We need to shift our mindset to one in which all children are to be raised in local communities, together with their parents," Komazaki said.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Throwing money at the problem solves nothing.

If you have to throw money I'd literally give money to broke ass dudes and kikkimori's and ecourage them to become passport bros and bring back foreign wives.
 

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Japanese Finance Bro says he doesn't make enough to have a family

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I could’ve SWORE I read this exact same article like 5 years ago…


According to the (admittedly low) amount of research i’ve done on the topic, Japanese business culture has basically ruined the family unit of their society. Men are expected to work upwards of 60-70 hours a week and then go out drinking with their bosses to curry favor. They’re so tired that they have no energy to spend with their wives and children which leads to resentment and detachment from the wives.
 
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