Feminists on the coli

[marcuz]

black feminism = attack black men and white women while trying to bed white men.

black feminism = complain about patriarchy when you live in a puesdo matriarchy

black feminism = believing you can hashtag your way into being valued the same as white women.

 

[William F. Russell]

Black feminism recognizes that we have multiple identities. We are black and we are female. These different identity come with different sets of lived experiences and challenges. Black feminism also challenges white feminist thoughts about who is included and excluded in discussions about ideas about what it means to be a woman (since white feminists tend to exclude women of color), and the methods that are used to achieve greater equality.

Was your answer from bell hooks?

Anyways, that's well and good but how is that philosophy implemented by its followers?

All I see is black feminists working with white feminists to attack and tarnish the image of black men. Where's all that for men of dominant society?

 

[William F. Russell]

black feminism = attack black men and white women while trying to bed white men.

black feminism = complain about patriarchy when you live in a puesdo matriarchy

black feminism = believing you can hashtag your way into being valued the same as white women.

 

[William F. Russell]

I'm talking about The Coli, in particular. If I get into an argument with a guy on here, those words comes out real quick.

Well, either way, don't generalize all black men, even those on the coli.

Don't apply your experience with a minority and apply that to the majority, period.

 

[The Electric Lady]

Because Susan B Anthony, the
leader of the women's suffrage/feminist movement believed in the advancement of white women. So much so that she believed that black men shouldn't be afforded any rights (or equal to a white man) before a white woman. Feminism fails to address the issue of intersectionality, i.e being a black woman. It directly goes against and threatens black empowerment.

This is a poor argument.

1. Susan B. Anthony is dead and has been for a long time.
2. Even if Susan B. Anthony had horrible views, this does not discount the necessity or legitimacy of feminism. At that point you might as well use Elijah Muhammad as an example that black power is a self empowering movement because he okay'd killing Malcolm X.
3. Almost every philosophy or religion or way of thinking has had its history with people who weren't perfect or used it just to position themselves. I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean that I agree with atheistic regimes such as Mao's.

 

[The Electric Lady]

Nah you are just the person who randomly bring up other members names after a single interaction

A single interaction? I've been reading your posts for months and you're a dumbass.

 

[William F. Russell]

This is a poor argument.

1. Susan B. Anthony is dead and has been for a long time.
2. Even if Susan B. Anthony had horrible views, this does not discount the necessity or legitimacy of feminism. At that point you might as well use Elijah Muhammad as an example that black power is a self empowering movement because he okay'd killing Malcolm X.
3. Almost every philosophy or religion or way of thinking has had its history with people who weren't perfect or used it just to position themselves. I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean that I agree with atheistic regimes such as Mao's.

1. She was the founder of the movement and remains the figurehead to this day. No different that dominant society's reverence for George Washington or Abe Lincoln.

2. She did have horrible views. Fact. And although her views may not discount its "legitimacy" it reflects very poorly on the movement. And I highly doubt that she was the only person who held those views. Moreover, the feminist movement hasn't really changed philosophically since when it first started (other than being louder and earning more privileges)

3. Your analogy is off-base. The subsequent leaders and followers of the feminist movement never denounced her nor have they distanced themselves from her. And, like I mentioned earlier, I'm sure many of the subsequent leaders and followers believed/still believe in her views, albeit more secretly.

 

[Poitier]

A single interaction? I've been reading your posts for months and you're a dumbass.

I know that you have and you are obsessed.

And when an idiot calls me dumb I take it as a compliment. I would never want a person with your mental handicaps agreeing with me.

 

[The Electric Lady]

I personally don't give a fukk about Susan B. Anthony. It's just odd that people bring her up when I'm protesting or help spreading knowledge on Texas' abortion laws. Susan B. Anthony doesn't come into the picture for me.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Cause of my sohh fam.

Yes I'm a feminist and a man too. And a black man. Wanna fight about it?

 

[Elle Driver]

This is a poor argument.

1. Susan B. Anthony is dead and has been for a long time.
2. Even if Susan B. Anthony had horrible views, this does not discount the necessity or legitimacy of feminism. At that point you might as well use Elijah Muhammad as an example that black power is a self empowering movement because he okay'd killing Malcolm X.
3. Almost every philosophy or religion or way of thinking has had its history with people who weren't perfect or used it just to position themselves. I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean that I agree with atheistic regimes such as Mao's.

And? She's the leader of the women's rights movement and a part of her belief was ANTI BLACK and not inclusive. That's why womanism was created which represents the feminist movement FOR BLACK WOMEN. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. It's called intersectionality.

 

[The Electric Lady]

Cause of my sohh fam.

Yes I'm a feminist and a man too. And a black man. Wanna fight about it?

fukk no. Is that a Jean-Michel Basquiat avatar?

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

fukk no. Is that a Jean-Michel Basquiat avatar?

Yes it is. It's of his piece he painted in tribute of a black graffiti writer that was brutally murdered by police.

That in conjunction with my custom title "leave me alone" pretty much shows how I feel these days towards police as a black person. I just want to be left alone and live my life in peace without having to worry about police beating me up or trying to take my life unjustly.

 

[The Electric Lady]

And? She's the leader of the women's rights movement and a part of her belief was ANTI BLACK and not inclusive. That's why womanism was created which represents the feminist movement FOR BLACK WOMEN. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. It's called intersectionality.

The problem with your argument is that you assume that feminism is just a western thing. It wasn't. Also, Susan B. Anthony was not the leader of the Women's Rights movement. I'm not sure where you got that. Susan B. Anthony was a leader in women's suffrage, which isn't women's rights in full, but a part of it. Susan B. Anthony was a leader within feminism, but to say she was THE leader, of an international movement for women to gain equal rights is fictitious and goes against recorded history. Feminism historically did not have a chosen leader, and pretending that it did and is not true to history. At that point, you might as well call MLK the leader of the black rights movement; he wasn't. He was just one guy in a big movement with his own opinions and ways to get there.

It's like saying believing in black power means you support black supremacy and superiority. You can have one without the other.

More than that, you're splitting hairs in regards to the womanist thing. In practical terms, womanists are feminists. You're just calling it another name. It's not a wholly different ideology.

 

[NobodyReally]

Well, either way, don't generalize all black men, even those on the coli.

Don't apply your experience with a minority and apply that to the majority, period.

I never generalized. See, this is how misunderstandings and falsehoods get started. I never said that the men of The Coli are all bad. My original post asked a question: Why do I get called a LSA troll if I defend myself against being called a bytch or a hoe?