Feminists VS Men's Rights Activists Heated Argument (Video)

[DaChampIsHere]

Yep i see similar shyt to what you saying all over the place. Women acting like men and vice versa is gonna destroy our society cause it definitely ain't the natural order of things.

Considering that most women are going to end up single just on shear numbers alone, you can't expect them to retain single sex roles.

A lot of women are going to need a great amount of independent skills/traits to survive in this world. They will need to be able to make their own money, to stick up for themselves, etc. It's not the 1940s any more where women are getting married straight out of high school with 0 personality to nice Jeb down the street who's parents have been saving for him to get married.

No, people need skills to survive and take care of themselves. According to many of you, women should be sitting at home post-18 waiting for a man to come and make them whole and to speak up for them like +70 years ago. No. Let these hoes live. No one on here is trying to get married right after high school graduation so stop trying to play up this traditional male shyt as if that's what you want.

Also, people complain about the media, but who controls the media? Who are you really mad at and instead just attacking someone else because you're too weak to go to the person who's really the problem (white males)?

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And those dudes in those videos sound like straight bytches and homos and if you are a man who is p*ssy enough to say that something that bleeds 5 days out the month is stopping you from doing anything, guess what... you could never do it yourself anyway.

Both sides can be a little extreme sometimes, but the overall idea of men taking on this trait of female-like complaining is more annoying to me as a male cause I don't wanna be associated with this shyt.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

just like feminism isn't just what the woman in the video was doing, MRA isn't just what you described either.

Ever seen a dude call the cops cause a chick assaulted him at his own place and HE got arrested? How about men being expelled out of colleges for unfounded sexual assault/rape claims? How about men being physically threatened/assaulted and nothing happens but should they dare to defend themselves, they're the bad guy and get punished? How about patrenity fraud and the fact that there is virtually no punishment for women who do it? etc etc. This is also part of what MRA is about.

Both domestic violence and sexual assault/rape are two heavily under reported crimes in the US. There are MANY more women abused and assaulted but remain silent than there are men falsely accused of these crimes. Sexual assault isn't even taken seriously at most universities, the investigation protocol is a joke. Don't even get me started on what's happening to women serving in the military or the women at service academies.

Regarding paternity fraud, there are MANY more women raising children alone without the help of deadbeat father than there are men providing for and/or raising a child that is not their own

Like I guess it's bad news for the small minority of men who deal with the above issues, but trust and believe it's still a man's world out there.

Honestly, I liken MRA to being the gender equivalent of white people complaining about reverse racism and oppression. It's ridiculous.

 

[GoPro]

That MRA is a disgrace. He couldn't form a single tangible argument and chose to focus on false rape allegations, which both sides already agree needs to be addressed.

And that red dyed chick needs to expand her vocabulary.

 

[Turbulent]

Both domestic violence and sexual assault/rape are two heavily under reported crimes in the US. There are MANY more women abused and assaulted but remain silent than there are men falsely accused of these crimes. Sexual assault isn't even taken seriously at most universities, the investigation protocol is a joke. Don't even get me started on what's happening to women serving in the military or the women at service academies.

Regarding paternity fraud, there are MANY more women raising children alone without the help of deadbeat father than there are men providing for and/or raising a child that is not their own

Like I guess it's bad news for the small minority of men who deal with the above issues, but trust and believe it's still a man's world out there.

Honestly, I liken MRA to being the gender equivalent of white people complaining about reverse racism and oppression. It's ridiculous.

everything you listed is a shame but it doesn't go against what i'm saying though. two wrongs don't make a right and there is nothing wrong with men fighting against injustices. Why do you see it as one vs the other?

 

[Days of Future Piff]

Saw this vid months ago...

I really don't get down with these feminists--

I can respect some of their goals in the beginning

voting rights, equal pay, etc

The second and third wave stuff just has me like

I don't think this philosophy does a lot to take into account that men and women are fundamentally different in the way we're built, the way we think, etc, and I seriously question how down they really are for equality, considering that both genders have serious issues to deal with.

What about men who get screwed in court and lose their kids and assets over divorce, custody, etc?
What about paternity fraud, and the domestic violence double-standard?
What about selective service? Men, we can't even vote IIRC until we register for that.
What about the homeless, the suicidal, and the casualties of war, who are mostly men?
If equality is the goal here, then shouldn't discrimination/sexism/injustice/etc be treated as a serious issue when that happens to anybody?

And as much as I don't condone or excuse putting one's hands on a woman to harm or abuse them, I can't buy the whole concept of rape culture either. It reeks of profiling to me. I'm not saying that it justifies people doing those messed up things, of course.

The feminists want to push sexual liberation-- which IMO devalued women in that sense. This played a huge part in the systematic dismantling of the family unit if you ask me. If someone's willing to give their milk away to whoever and have abortions whenever, then who's gonna want to pay good money to buy the cow when they could get better milk anywhere else? Especially when there's no guarantee that the cow won't get up and and bounce, taking your kids and half of your stuff with it. Or when their milk could give you the itchymouth

It's just a dream being sold to these women out here, mane. They want to have their cake and eat it too. If the "patriarchy" was really out only to oppress women and keep men on top of everything, then why would it disadvantage men at all?

They want to push equality, but when things pop off they still want to shout "ladies first". It's so maddening, friends.
In the end though, feminists like the ones in this video are already emotionally wired a certain way, and aren't going to change their views upon hearing any logical or rational argument, no matter how sound. Emotions are far more powerful than logic, I'm afraid. It's human nature

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

The problem is we as men LET feminism become totalitarianism, instead of trying to give these females equal footing we gave them full on power, and now this country has become one big liberal estrogen driven BLEEDING HEART.

People cant just be mentally unstable anymore, there's always some excuse, I mean arent they trying to give even the pedos some sort of pass now too?

What "power" do women have? It's not economic because women still earn $0.77 to every $1 that men earn for the same job. Men continue to dominate all the high paying professions including medicine, law, engineering and business. The overwhelming majority of Fortune 500 CEO/C-Suite positions are held by men. Its not political because men also dominate the Supreme Court, the Cabinet, and the Senate/House of Representative aka all 3 arms of the federal govt: Judicial/Executive/Legislative.

If you were performing we in ANY of the above areas in life you would not be comaingi because everyone knows if you are a white male of average intelligence and have a decent work ethic, you don't have a problems. This country was designed for you to succeed. Black males have some issues true, but any black man has their shyt together will tell that he's eatin' and eatin' well.


So FOH

 

[ebonykiss]

Both domestic violence and sexual assault/rape are two heavily under reported crimes in the US. There are MANY more women abused and assaulted but remain silent than there are men falsely accused of these crimes. Sexual assault isn't even taken seriously at most universities, the investigation protocol is a joke. Don't even get me started on what's happening to women serving in the military or the women at service academies.

Regarding paternity fraud, there are MANY more women raising children alone without the help of deadbeat father than there are men providing for and/or raising a child that is not their own

Like I guess it's bad news for the small minority of men who deal with the above issues, but trust and believe it's still a man's world out there.

Honestly, I liken MRA to being the gender equivalent of white people complaining about reverse racism and oppression. It's ridiculous.

lol its just when WP get in an uproar about reverse racism just because of affirmative action

Its like really bro your just going to act like whiteness and maleness isn't the rule

 

[Mr.Black]

What "power" do women have? It's not economic because women still earn $0.77 to every $1 that men earn for the same job. Men continue to dominate all the high paying professions including medicine, law, engineering and business. The overwhelming majority of Fortune 500 CEO/C-Suite positions are held by men. Its not political because men also dominate the Supreme Court, the Cabinet, and the Senate/House of Representative aka all 3 arms of the federal govt: Judicial/Executive/Legislative.

If you were performing we in ANY of the above areas in life you would not be comaingi because everyone knows if you are a white male of average intelligence and have a decent work ethic, you don't have a problems. This country was designed for you to succeed. Black males have some issues true, but any black man has their shyt together will tell that he's eatin' and eatin' well.


So FOH

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the HEAD of homeland security a woman?

If a man makes a pass at a woman its harassment, if a woman makes a pass at a man and he complains he's looked at as a p*ssy or a fakkit.

If a man gets smacked up a by a woman, nobody cares, but if a man beats a womans ass it's the worst thing in the world and they call for castration.

Women have plenty of power, oprah is proof of that, oprah can make or break virtually anybody's career with just a word,

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

everything you listed is a shame but it doesn't go against what i'm saying though. two wrongs don't make a right and there is nothing wrong with men fighting against injustices. Why do you see it as one vs the other?

Because I'm a woman and I don't care about those problems. If a white person came whining to me about affirmative action and reverse racism I would swiftly tell him to stfu and learn what it's like to struggle for something, like every other race in the the world has had to do.

Men were chillin for MILLENIA and they see some tiny encroachment in the MASSIVE amount of privilege they take advantage of everyday and expect people to feel sorry them. Sorry, I don't have the time, but I'm sure the MANY men who are in positions of power and influence can help you. Though somehow I get the sense they dot have the time either, because they understand life and man just isn't that bad. Why mess with a good thing you got going?

 

[ebonykiss]

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the HEAD of homeland security a woman?

If a man makes a pass at a woman its harassment, if a woman makes a pass at a man and he complains he's looked at as a p*ssy or a fakkit.

If a man gets smacked up a by a woman, nobody cares, but if a man beats a womans ass it's the worst thing in the world and they call for castration.

Women have plenty of power, oprah is proof of that, oprah can make or break virtually anybody's career with just a word,

So can we say that racism doesn't exist because Obama is in office ? Bring out the party hats guys the struggle is over we have Obama and Oprah

 

[Spoonz]

So basically the MRA shyt is just full of whiny man-bytches?

 

[Mr.Black]

So can we say that racism doesn't exist because Obama is in office ? Bring out the party hats guys the struggle is over we have Obama and Oprah

nikka this argument is over men and womens right, where the fukk did your c00n ass get off talking about race?

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the HEAD of homeland security a woman?

If a man makes a pass at a woman its harassment, if a woman makes a pass at a man and he complains he's looked at as a p*ssy or a fakkit.

If a man gets smacked up a by a woman, nobody cares, but if a man beats a womans ass it's the worst thing in the world and they call for castration.

Women have plenty of power, oprah is proof of that, oprah can make or break virtually anybody's career with just a word,

Okay smart guy why don't you share with the rest of what the gender of all the other cabinet posts is? We'll wait.

While you're at it, look at a list of billionaires in the US and tell us how many are men and how many are women. If you all think women got it like that because ONE billionaire out of God knows how many is a women, you MRA dudes really are as dumb as I suspected.

No wonder you're on a forum whining about shyt. Like what else do you have the capacity for?

 

[ebonykiss]

nikka this argument is over men and womens right, where the fukk did your c00n ass get off talking about race?

White men complaining about being oppressed by White women is the same exact thing as white people as a whole complaining about reverse racism, so everyone is supposed to pretend white men don't run America or what ?

 

[Days of Future Piff]

I can't ride with the concept of the wage gap...

I have to ask what positions that statistic (77 cents to a dollar) is taking into account.
In regards to all of the positions that are out there, there are jobs out there that require crazier schedules, hard physical labor, more dangerous work, and a risk of serious injury or death. Most of these positions are taken by men.

Not saying that women CAN'T do them

Generally speaking, people working more dangerous jobs like this SHOULD be paid more regardless of gender, in order to compensate for the risk involved. Otherwise, nobody would want to do it.

The second thing I have to ask is that if women are inherently making less (77 cents to a dollar), then why would employers bother to hire men at all when they could save all that money by only hiring women?