Final Fantasy 7 Remake coming to Xbox 03/3/21

[winb83]

Yeah FF7 remake should have been hyped up and celebrated and released on all systems.

Instead it was called off to PlayStation users and didn't sell like that even though it drop at the start of covid.

It went on to be overshadowed by TLOU2 like a month and a half later.


It's sad you still feel this way

Anybody into JRPGs has now been conditioned to look to platforms other than Xbox to find them.

If you wanted this game and didn't have a PC or PlayStation you had to wait 5 years to get it. A wait that long would have one assuming it wasn't coming.

 

[Fatboi1]

Not sure why you adding in PC when I'm strictly talking about PS5 sales.

Why would you be talking about PS5 sales when you quoted someone talking about "FFVII Remake" which debuted on PS4? The game itself is on PS4 and PS5, it's sales were reflected on both strongly. PC came in later, it may not have been a big contributor overall.

And FF7 literally changed how people viewed gaming, it also changed the scene here in the U.S and how PlayStation looked at RPGs in general.

Yeah, that still doesn't change the fact that it sold 15 million across all those platforms since 1997. Cultural impact =/= sales. Mass Effect was a game that also had a big cultural impact here and the series, not just 1 game, but the entire series sold just 20 million, far less than say Uncharted.

Not only that Sony just released the top 20 best selling titles on PS1 and FF7 was like top 3 in dollars and top 20 in units. The original sold about 10 million on the PS1. So since that time across all other platforms another 5 million...

1997 was almost 30 years ago breh. Also, the games that were available at the time were much less pitted against the juggernauts of today e.g. COD/GTA.

You're comparing almost 30 years of sales to 5 of where one game has reached almost half of the total lifetime sales to the original? Is FFVII remake selling 7 million 3 years after release really bad when the original sold 10 million around 30 years?
Remember, THEY said it sold 7 million with a statement/image to celebrate.

It's literally in the top 3 for most popular/sold game on the PS1 but ok...

Read my point above.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Why would you be talking about PS5 sales when you quoted someone talking about "FFVII Remake" which debuted on PS4? The game itself is on PS4 and PS5, it's sales were reflected on both strongly. PC came in later, it may not have been a big contributor overall.


Yeah, that still doesn't change the fact that it sold 15 million across all those platforms since 1997. Cultural impact =/= sales.

1997 was almost 30 years ago breh. Also, the games that were available at the time were much less pitted against the juggernauts of today e.g. COD/GTA.

You're comparing almost 30 years of sales to 5 of where one game has reached almost half of the total lifetime sales to the original? Is FFVII remake selling 7 million 3 years after release really bad when the original sold 10 million around 30 years?
Remember, THEY said it sold 7 million with a statement/image to celebrate.

Read my point above.

-Yeah I meant PS4
- So you agree we no one is inflating the original's popularity? The OG was top 3 most popular and sold game on PlayStation.
- Everything else you mentioned is why popular 3rd party IP's should be on every platform available Day 1.

 

[Fatboi1]

-Yeah I meant PS4
- So you agree we no one is inflating the original's popularity? The OG was top 3 most popular and sold game on PlayStation.

It's not in the top 3 for units sold, it's in top 3 for dollars grossed, just a little correction there. The OG being among the most popular games back then means nothing. Look at what you've said. You said it sold 10 million on PS1 right? PS1 has been around for almost thirty years.
Now, the same game got remade, and just the first part alone sold SEVEN million in 3 years.


How can you sit with a straight face and say that's not a huge feat? It literally sold almost 70% of the original game's sales alone on PS1 in a fraction of the time.
It seems that the issue is you can't come to terms with understanding that games like COD/GTA and others have inflated sales numbers for games so much that now we're even having this ridiculous conversation about 7 million copies sold for a game is somehow 'not good'.

- Everything else you mentioned is why popular 3rd party IP's should be on every platform available Day 1.

What does this have to do with popular 3rd party IP's? The original was still largely popular on PS1 mainly. You even said yourself it maybe sold 5 million across other platforms. Why are you trying to remove the time frame? That's almost 20 years of sales across other platforms. You're unfairly comparing almost 30 years of sales to one platform while trying to remove the time component of that.

Crash Bandicoot, Tekken and Tony Hawk games were among the top 10 best selling games on PS1, but today they're not and those games are on all platforms mainly. Should those games go back to being exclusive?

You're ignoring big variables to try and create a narrative that just isn't true. Exclusivity/multiplatform doesn't necessarily suggest a game will sell/flop. 3rd party games that have been third party can stay third party. Exclusives that are selling well don't "need" to be multiplatform.

 

[tripleaamin]

I get why it is the case for Sony First Party, but SE not releasing these games on the same day on PC is just dumb.

 

[Champion]

I get why it is the case for Sony First Party, but SE not releasing these games on the same day on PC is just dumb.

SE is aware and seems to be addressing the issue with their new multiplatform approach.

A major publisher releasing two games for their flagship IP and only getting 7M in sales is WILD in today's market. To put it in perspective, Monster Hunter Wilds sold 8 million in 3 days...

 

[Fatboi1]

SE is aware and seems to be addressing the issue with their new multiplatform approach.

A major publisher releasing two games for their flagship IP and only getting 7M in sales is WILD in today's market. To put it in perspective, Monster Hunter Wilds sold 8 million in 3 days...

You can't read breh.

FFVII Remake is ONE game that sold 7 million, not TWO games. Remake/Intergrade isn't two different games.

That 7 million figure isn't counting FFVII Rebirth. Also y'all love bringing up the rare games that sell big but not the other ones. Dragon's Dogma is also from the same publisher as Monster Hunter and that sold 3.8 million since last year lol.

 

[Champion]

You can't read breh.

FFVII Remake is ONE game that sold 7 million, not TWO games. Remake/Intergrade isn't two different games.

That 7 million figure isn't counting FFVII Rebirth. Also y'all love bringing up the rare games that sell big but not the other ones. Dragon's Dogma is also from the same publisher as Monster Hunter and that sold 3.8 million since last year lol.

It says 7 million and has both games listed.

And what does the bolded mean? Is DD considered a flagship IP?

 

[Fatboi1]

It says 7 million and has both games listed.

And what does the bolded mean? DD isn't a flagship IP

Where do you see "FFVII Rebirth" on this image?

Your entire post was completely wrong, you thought FFVII Rebirth AND Remake sold only 7 million.

Also, the bolded was to point out how comparing games sales that are on all platforms to something that's exclusive doesn't mean anything.
FFXVI sold 3.5 million in like a week and people were saying that wasn't good, then SE said that and FF Rebirth didn't meet sales expectations, then SE said FFXVI did in fact fall in line with expectations etc.

Square Enix confirms that FFXVI did in fact meet sales expectations - KitGuru

One of Square Enix’s biggest games of 2023 was Final Fantasy XVI. The action RPG launched exclusivel

www.kitguru.net

It's just a bunch of speculation right now, nobody knows how much any of these games sold in total hence why the discussion around "this should've been on PC day 1" or w/e is moot. Either way I'm tired of this topic, it's been the same talking points with barely any data to support it.

 

[Champion]

Where do you see "FFVII Rebirth" on this image?

Your entire post was completely wrong, you thought FFVII Rebirth AND Remake sold only 7 million.

Also, the bolded was to point out how comparing games sales that are on all platforms to something that's exclusive doesn't mean anything.
FFXVI sold 3.5 million in like a week and people were saying that wasn't good, then SE said that and FF Rebirth didn't meet sales expectations, then SE said FFXVI did in fact fall in line with expectations etc.

Square Enix confirms that FFXVI did in fact meet sales expectations - KitGuru

One of Square Enix’s biggest games of 2023 was Final Fantasy XVI. The action RPG launched exclusivel

www.kitguru.net

It's just a bunch of speculation right now, nobody knows how much any of these games sold in total hence why the discussion around "this should've been on PC day 1" or w/e is moot.

So they're not releasing actual sales numbers after multiple years and several financial statements. but it's speculation?

Did SE make these games multiplat out of the kindness of their hearts breh?

 

[Champion]

And what is that marketing material if nobody actually knows the sales? Is that fan-made or did they announce 7M then not update the sales after that???

 

[The Mad Titan]

It's not in the top 3 for units sold, it's in top 3 for dollars grossed, just a little correction there. The OG being among the most popular games back then means nothing. Look at what you've said. You said it sold 10 million on PS1 right? PS1 has been around for almost thirty years.
Now, the same game got remade, and just the first part alone sold SEVEN million in 3 years.


How can you sit with a straight face and say that's not a huge feat? It literally sold almost 70% of the original game's sales alone on PS1 in a fraction of the time.
It seems that the issue is you can't come to terms with understanding that games like COD/GTA and others have inflated sales numbers for games so much that now we're even having this ridiculous conversation about 7 million copies sold for a game is somehow 'not good'.

What does this have to do with popular 3rd party IP's? The original was still largely popular on PS1 mainly. You even said yourself it maybe sold 5 million across other platforms. Why are you trying to remove the time frame? That's almost 20 years of sales across other platforms. You're unfairly comparing almost 30 years of sales to one platform while trying to remove the time component of that.

Crash Bandicoot, Tekken and Tony Hawk games were among the top 10 best selling games on PS1, but today they're not and those games are on all platforms mainly. Should those games go back to being exclusive?

You're ignoring big variables to try and create a narrative that just isn't true. Exclusivity/multiplatform doesn't necessarily suggest a game will sell/flop. 3rd party games that have been third party can stay third party. Exclusives that are selling well don't "need" to be multiplatform.

FF7 being a top 3 grossing game for the PS1 (and just for the US btw) or however you want to try and slice it is huge.

You'd have a point about things if FF7 was a one and done or it was a dormant IP, but seven is one of the go to IPs when it comes to final fantasy in general.

The IP has only gotten more popular, so even if it did sell and ship 7 million since 2024 worldwide that's good but it should be much better in comparison.

Resident evil 2 dropped in 98 the most popular RE in the series much like FF7, it was # 11, RE remake dropped in 2019 and it went on to sell over 15 million...

One dropped and people loved it and went out and bought it on there systems of choice, the other dropped and people loved it and bought it if they had a PS4/5 and later on a PC.




The days are gone, once you have a popular IP established as a 3rd party. Unless you have no better options. You should be releasing it day and date on all platforms.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Square enix: “We fukked up, we need to release these games on all platforms day one to make them financially successful, we are changing our entire strategy to meet the current industry reality”

Sony cult members: “Exclusives, exclusives, game sold just fine hope they fukk up the sales of the next one so i can stan it”

nikkas crazy

 

[Fatboi1]

So they're not releasing actual sales numbers after multiple years and several financial statements. but it's speculation?

Did SE make these games multiplat out of the kindness of their hearts breh?

I said it's speculation because nobody knows the sales numbers/dev costs to say if something was a success/flop.
As for SE making those games multiplat, umm idk if you understand but FFVII Remake didn't become multiplat because of some failure. It was always a timed exclusive, it came out on PC a year later. It wouldn't have made sense to release on Nintendo Switch with how weak it is and now that the Switch 2 is out it makes sense to release it there. You making it seem like it coming to Xbox will magically boost their numbers, JRPGs are not very popular on Xbox.