Finally read Cosbys whole speech. Why would a black person disagree?

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Nice try...but you're wrong.

1. Cosby's overall point was that you can't claim you're a victim when you've engaged in illegal/wrongful behavior. Moreover, he was speaking in hyperbole, not in the literal sense.

2. Mike Brown wasn't shot because he robbed the store of rollies. He was shot dead following a physical altercation with Darren Wilson outside of the store/in Wilson's squad car.

Stop being obtuse.
Son Cosby is an a$$hole..period...it was a dumb point and a dumb way to present the point...black people aint the only ones who steal shyt...dude had zero empathy for individual situations and just generalized shyt...he been on this holier than thou kick for a minute..Eddie Murphy even roasted him for it...dude has went to colleges and shytted on the black graduates rather than encourage them...dude is a hypocrite cause it took him years of experience for him to straighten his act up yet he lookin down on people who are further than he was at the same age...I respect the nikka for his contributions n all that...I respect what hes done for the black image.. but it dont give him a right to point his egotistical ass finger like he better than people..its not about the message..its about the way u deliver it...the way u present it...he made this analogy before on The Cosby Show..when Vanessa brought Dabness Brickie home...he told him it doesnt matter how good of a guy he was..he wasnt gonna like him cause of the way Vanessa presented him.."on a garbage can lid"...that was how his speech was presented.."on a garbage can lid"..
 
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Why because I thought the cop knew nothing about the other issue so how do the two issues relate?
Cause the media and white people was tryna make like cause he stole some cigars hes a criminal and he "wasnt innocent"...as if it was justification for him being murdered...yall nikkas need to stop playin dumb..
 

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Nice try...but you're wrong.

1. Cosby's overall point was that you can't claim you're a victim when you've engaged in illegal/wrongful behavior. Moreover, he was speaking in hyperbole, not in the literal sense.

2. Mike Brown wasn't shot because he robbed the store of rollies. He was shot dead following a physical altercation with Darren Wilson outside of the store/in Wilson's squad car.

Stop being obtuse.

more importantly, you cant claim victimhood when you're dead. justifying murder over petty theft is c00n shyt and would rarely be applied to any caucasian.

mike brown was shot because wilson knew he could get away with it. cops go upside our heads worse than what he got daily and we wouldn't be justified in killing them.
 

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Cause the media and white people was tryna make like cause he stole some cigars hes a criminal and he "wasnt innocent"...as if it was justification for him being murdered...yall nikkas need to stop playin dumb..
fukk you talking about playing dumb show me where I was playing dumb. I don't care about what white people said I said I think people can agree with the pound cake speak and Mike Brown at the same time. I said from what I've heard the cop didn't know about the earlier incident so they can't be compared IMO. I don't know what else you are talking about.
 

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Son Cosby is an a$$hole..period...it was a dumb point and a dumb way to present the point...black people aint the only ones who steal shyt...dude had zero empathy for individual situations and just generalized shyt...he been on this holier than thou kick for a minute..Eddie Murphy even roasted him for it...dude has went to colleges and shytted on the black graduates rather than encourage them...dude is a hypocrite cause it took him years of experience for him to straighten his act up yet he lookin down on people who are further than he was at the same age...I respect the nikka for his contributions n all that...I respect what hes done for the black image.. but it dont give him a right to point his egotistical ass finger like he better than people..its not about the message..its about the way u deliver it...the way u present it...he made this analogy before on The Cosby Show..when Vanessa brought Dabness Brickie home...he told him it doesnt matter how good of a guy he was..he wasnt gonna like him cause of the way Vanessa presented him.."on a garbage can lid"...

If the only complaint about the "pound cake" speech is how he delivered it, then that shows that everything he said in the speech was true.

Miss the forest for the trees, brehs...
 

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If the only complaint about the "pound cake" speech is how he delivered it, then that shows that everything he said in the speech was true.

Miss the forest for the trees, brehs...
:what: no nikka..my problem with the speech is what I said earlier in the thread..it was condescending...hypocritical..stereotypical and judgemental...shyt had some truths in it..but shyt was over simplified..lacked context..and not well thought out...
 

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:what: no nikka..my problem with the speech is what I said earlier in the thread..it was condescending...hypocritical..stereotypical and judgemental...shyt had some truths in it..but shyt was over simplified..lacked context..and not well thought out...

1. Your main problems with the speech concern its tone and delivery

2. How was it oversimplified, lacking in content, and not thought out? Because, thus far, I've deconstructed that argument. Please explain
 

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more importantly, you cant claim victimhood when you're dead. justifying murder over petty theft is c00n shyt and would rarely be applied to any caucasian.

mike brown was shot because wilson knew he could get away with it. cops go upside our heads worse than what he got daily and we wouldn't be justified in killing them.

Yet you and I are still alive.


What will we do?
 

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1. Your main problems with the speech concern its tone and delivery

2. How was it oversimplified, lacking in content, and not thought out? Because, thus far, I've deconstructed that argument. Please explain

my problem with the speech is its condescending, doesn't address white supremacy, and justifies the murder of blacks over 2 dollar cake.

but more to the point, while he's wagging his finger at blacks for living in poverty, cosby was out here drugging and raping women (and girls) with impunity
 

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Yet you and I are still alive.


What will we do?
i can tell you what i'm not going to do, follow the path of the charles barkleys and bill cosbys of the world; trying to buddy up with a system thats designed to oppress me.

which is why cosby deserves every bit of whats happening to him, and i'll laugh when it eventually happens to barkley too
 

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i can tell you what i'm not going to do, follow the path of the charles barkleys and bill cosbys of the world; trying to buddy up with a system thats designed to oppress me.

which is why cosby deserves every bit of whats happening to him, and i'll laugh when it eventually happens to barkley too

I try to build and you hit me with sarcasm?
 
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