First Kyrie, now Kiwi goes down, GS LUCKIEST team ever??

[Professor Emeritus]

Very thing = LeBron winning after being down before injuries to the opposing team. Desperate? You're the one who keeps hedging their bets, or should I say propping this Warriors squad up, so that you bask in the glory if LeBron does beat GS.

I ain't hedged no fukking bets. I've predicted exactly what I thought would happen every time and been RIGHT more often than not.


2015 WCSF I mentioned that Lebron and the Cavs might be able to get through both the Bulls and the Hawks w/out Kyrie so they should sit him until they needed him. You said that was ridiculous. You even said after the fact that "no one could have known" the Cavs would be able to beat the Hawks without Love/Kyrie, even though I HAD ALREADY SAID it would be possible.


2015 Finals I predicted that Golden State would win. So did just about everybody. I was right.


2015 Finals after Game 3 I said that Cavs were too exhausted and wouldn't be able to keep up the pace, that Lebron was going to have a letdown game unless everyone else stepped up, and that was unlikely because TT/Delly were exhausted too. That wasn't "hedging", it was obvious - it was impossible for the Cavs to play the same way in games 4-6 that they had for 1-3 because no team on Earth can play that hard on both ends for that many games in a row without subs.


2016 Finals before it started I predicted it would go 7. I was right.


2016 Finals after Draymond's suspension was announced I said Cavs had about a 30% chance to win the series. That was a lot more than most people were giving them considering that the Warriors were still ahead and had Game 7 at home.


2016 Finals after Cavs won Game 6, I said that I didn't see the Cavs winning Game 7 because Lebron had expended too much in Games 5-6 and no one else other than Kyrie was really stepping up, nor did I expect them to step up on the road. I was basically right, Lebron dropped back down to 27, no one else stepped up and the Cavs only scored 93 - the only thing I didn't predict was that Curry/Klay/Barnes would choke so bad that the Warriors would only muster 89 points in a freaking home game. And Cavs still needed The Block and The Three and The Stop to pull it out.


2017 before the playoffs I said that barring injury, Warriors would run through it and win the title. And, barring injury, they will.


2017 before the playoffs I said that it finally looked like Lebron might lose a series in the East because the Cavs were playing such awful defense and looked so out of sync on offense outside Bron. I didn't predict any particular team would be better than them, I just thought there was a real chance they might choke one away. Lots of other people were predicting that the Raptors, Celtics, Wizards, Bulls, even the Heat might beat them. I'll admit Cleveland has pulled it together more than I thought they would (even though their defense still sucks) and Lebron has been a flaming fireball for eight straight games, but it's mostly been literally everyone else in the East falling apart.


2017 before the Pacers series, I said Cavs in 5 or 6. Someone said the Pacers matched up better with them than the Bulls did, and I said that the issue was there was no one on the Pacers I trusted to close out wins. I was basically right - the games were all close, but Pacers couldn't close out wins for the fukking life of them. It was only a shot or two from going 5 or 6 like I predicted.


2017 before the Raptors series, I said Cavs in 6. Lowry's injury contributed to it ending earlier than I thought, but Raptors looked worse than I thought they would anyway.


That's all the "hedged bets." You've been repeating this bullshyt line about me before. The difference between you and I is that I DO make predictions and I make them straight up, regardless of who I stan. And I'm right more often than not.


You just make these bullshyt hedged "I wouldn't be surprised if so-and-so wins" predictions that mean nothing because you don't commit yourself to any outcome so you're never wrong. And then you talk trash about other posters supposedly "hedging bets" as if you even know what the word means.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@The Dankster a lot of half truths/conjecture about our exchanges in the post. I've already addressed why we shall not go over those again, for those very reasons. I'm not interested in what details of results you may have manipulated for the sake of your argument, when most of those results don't have any signifcance on the end result (winning in the Finals - v. Warriors). I've made countless predictions in the past, I've even put my account on the line multiple times before you even posted on this muh'fukken board. Miss me with that "The difference between you and I is that I DO make predictions" bullshyt. I know your game, it was as transparent as ever when you made this thread - Have a hard time seeing the Cavs winning Game 7. The majority of the threads you make (and posts) are centered around LeBron. It's even MORE transparent when you strike down any injury-related reason for how that Finals could've turned out different as if it isn't reasonable at all; all the while acting like you thought GS were going to win prior to the start of the series. If you truly believed GS were going to win and they were up 3-1 before they had injuries/a suspension, than you'd at least entertain the thought that GS would've gone on to win if they didn't have those misfortunes. As they proved with their full rotation that they were the better team. You don't want to admit that LeBron did potentially benefit from injuries/suspension because it'd ruin the pro-LeBron arc you've got going on this board, and therefore then use it in future arguments that LeBron overcame all odds to win regardless of what happened during the series. If you admitted that LeBron did benefit from the Warriors' misfortunes, it'd be ammo for a certain group of posters who you debate with.

Most of the predictions I make are reasonable, I only talk trash to other folk who aren't reasonable with their predictions and/or those who have an ulterior motive.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

GS injuries:

2013 - Curry and David Lee
2014 - Bogut
2016 - Bogut, Iggy and Curry

So lucky
2013 was against the Spurs btw

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I've made countless predictions in the past, I've even put my account on the line multiple times before you even posted on this muh'fukken board. Miss me with that "The difference between you and I is that I DO make predictions" bullshyt.

I don't care what the fukk you did before I was here, I only can go off of what I see. I haven't seen you put down shyt for hard predictions in the two and a half years I've been here now - it's always qualified.

I know your game, it was as transparent as ever when you made this thread - Have a hard time seeing the Cavs winning Game 7. The majority of the threads you make (and posts) are centered around LeBron.

Already proven that bullshyt wrong - most of the threads I've made have had nothing to do with Lebron whatsoever.

I've made 23 threads on this site. Five were about Lebron, even in part. Only 3-4 of those were "centered" around Lebron. 4-5 more were peripherally about Lebron if you stretch it (like even just asking who is gonna shine in elimination games or what the East seedings are going to be).

The thread you link was one of the five threads I've made about Lebron in 2.5 years, and I was right. Every single thing I said in the OP and the follow-up is correct, except for my assumption that Golden State would play looser and score more than 89 points.

 

[Broke Wave]

Why even entertain these bullshyt hypotheticals? @Gil Scott-Heroin in a month all this nonsense about what if the Warriors played a healthy X or Y etc are going to be old news when they demolish the 22nd ranked defense

As if them having some moderate trouble against two of the top 5 defenses (Utah, SAS) is going to transpose into trouble against a team who has shown they lack the ability to defend properly this year.

The Raptors were at one point 1-12 from three against the Cavs until late in the third on almost wide open shots, the proof is in the pudding. These guys wanna talk about the past to cushion the inevitable.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I don't care what the fukk you did before I was here, I only can go off of what I see. I haven't seen you put down shyt for hard predictions in the two and a half years I've been here now - it's always qualified..

I put my account on the line when the Warriors to win when they were down 1-3 against OKC last season - Warriors are down 3-1; if they don't come back and beat the Thunder.... I've made countless "hard" general predictions when it comes to NBA series since you've been active on this board. Same applies to players performances in the playoffs (e.g. Harden).

Already proven that bullshyt wrong - most of the threads I've made have had nothing to do with Lebron whatsoever.

I've made 23 threads on this site. Five were about Lebron, even in part. 4-5 more were peripherally about Lebron if you really stretch it (like even just asking who is gonna shine in elimination games or what the East seedings are going to be).

The thread you link was one of the five threads I've made about Lebron in 2.5 years, and I was right. Every single thing I said in the OP and the follow-up is correct, except for my assumption that Golden State would play looser and score more than 89 points.

Link all the threads you made. Because I suspect you're also including threads you made outside of the sports subforum.

 

[ThaRealness]

Except this very thing happened in the Finals last season and this board didn't say shyt. They were too busy drowning in their own hypocrisy.

Ill give you the suspension.

Don't say shyt about Iggy and Bogut though. Role players go down and its 'next man up'

 

[ThaRealness]

I love how all the anti-GS posters just popped up out of nowhere today. Ya'll were nowhere to be found the last 2 months when they were winning every game. Now they almost lose a game and ya'll start infesting the forum like some roaches.

I hate on the Warriors rain sleet or snow

 

[Broke Wave]

Ill give you the suspension.

Don't say shyt about Iggy and Bogut though. Role players go down and its 'next man up'

Iggy was such an effective defender on LeBron when healthy that he not only got FMVP in the previous finals, he held LeBron to 42 percent in the first two games. That also in tandem with Bogut being statistically a great rim protector greatly handicapped the Warriors. Add Draymond being a top something defender ever being suspended and you have a recipe for some amazing comebacks.

 

[ThaRealness]

Iggy was such an effective defender on LeBron when healthy that he not only got FMVP in the previous finals, he held LeBron to 42 percent in the first two games. That also in tandem with Bogut being statistically a great rim protector greatly handicapped the Warriors. Add Draymond being a top something defender ever being suspended and you have a recipe for some amazing comebacks.

Lebron had a couple bad games in Oakland

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Ill give you the suspension.

Don't say shyt about Iggy and Bogut though. Role players go down and its 'next man up'

Did you forget that Iggy was the FMVP last season? Regardless if one thinks he deserved it or not, he was a main factor for why they won, specifically defending LeBron (with the back help of Draymond). Over the first four games LeBron shot 43% when Iggy was on the floor (plus he shot horrible from the field in the '15 Finals when Iggy was on the floor), it was no coincidence that LeBron started going off when Draymond was suspended and Iggy was injured.

 

[loyola llothta]

@Gil Scott-Heroin is trash that's it

 

[ThaRealness]

Did you forget that Iggy was the FMVP last season? Regardless if one thinks he deserved it or not, he was a main factor for why they won, specifically defending LeBron (with the back help of Draymond). Over the first four games LeBron shot 43% when Iggy was on the floor (plus he shot horrible from the field in the '15 Finals when Iggy was on the floor), it was no coincidence that LeBron started going off when Draymond was suspended and Iggy was injured.

He was a year older in 2016.

And 42% isn't crazy impressive, its slightly below average

I do think GS would have won if Draymond didn't get suspended

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I put my account on the line when the Warriors to win when they were down 1-3 against OKC last season - Warriors are down 3-1; if they don't come back and beat the Thunder.... I've made countless "hard" general predictions when it comes to NBA series since you've been active on this board. Same applies to players performances in the playoffs (e.g. Harden).

I didn't see that, that was ballsy. But that's one.

Predicting Harden would suck in the playoffs was like predicting that the sun would come up tomorrow. I'd been saying that since the season started.

Link all the threads you made. Because I suspect you're also including threads you made outside of the sports subforum.

Nah, I have 43 threads if you include ones outside the sports subforum: http://www.thecoli.com/search/7448713/

Looks like you got another "noncommittal" prediction wrong.


Sports threads:

1. Setting the record straight on Jameis crab legs
2. Kobe taking threes at a Steph rate
3. Bullshyt claims about Black people not using sport analytics
4. Have a hard time seeing Cavs winning Game 7 - Lebron and others
5. Simmon's prediction about the "Lebron Lebron's" - Lebron
6. Lebron for 2017 MVP - Lebron
7. Golden State player rankings in 2017 GM survey
8. Youth football causes brain damage
9. JR Smith presidential endorsement
10. NBA MVP race - Lebron and others
11. Wiggins vs. Pelicans - worst game ever
12. Lebron most powerful active player - Lebron
13. MMA fighter gets knocked out
14. Cousins and the Pelicans
15. Wilt Chamberlain's offense and the 1960s
16. Orlando's lottery picks (troll thread)
17. Worst defensive backcourt in the NBA
18. Blazer's Perfect Quarter
19. Westbrook triple-doubles
20. Urban legend about Pres. Clinton and the Arkansas game
21. 2016 Spurs-Thunder game 1 most misleading game ever
22. Art Barr's multiyear ongoing rant
23. Who is going to show out in elimination games?

There were five of those threads that were about Lebron, the ones I tagged, and only 3-4 were "centered" on him. You could claim another 4-5 were peripherally about him, like where I made fun of Art Barr's ongoing rants or talking about who is going to show out in elimination games. Over half the threads I started had NOTHING whatsoever to do with Lebron unless you think that everything in the NBA revolves around him and you can't talk about any other player without it somehow being a referendum on Lebron.

Iggy was such an effective defender on LeBron when healthy that he not only got FMVP in the previous finals, he held LeBron to 42 percent in the first two games. That also in tandem with Bogut being statistically a great rim protector greatly handicapped the Warriors. Add Draymond being a top something defender ever being suspended and you have a recipe for some amazing comebacks.

Yes, Lebron had two bad games the first two. He OFTEN starts with bad games against elite defensive teams - look at 2007 Pistons, 2008 Celtics, 2012 Celtics, 2013 Spurs, and 2016 Warriors.

Now look at games 3-5. Iggy's heath was still fine, Draymond and Bogut even there the first two of those games, Lebron still shooting 50+% in all three and averaging 32ppg. Iggy's a great defender, but he is at the stage in his career where he's already starting to slow down, and Lebron was already figuring him and the rest of the defense out by Game 3. No way Iggy was going to be able to stop Lebron for 7 games.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I didn't see that, that was ballsy. But that's one.

It's quite the opposite of ballsy when you realize that all he was doing was setting up an excuse for himself to go ghost when the Warriors lost, which he ended up doing anyway after the finals