FIRST TAKE VS. UNDISPUTED

WHICH 1 YOU RIDIN WITH?

  • FIRST TAKE

    Votes: 50 31.1%
  • UNDISPUTED

    Votes: 111 68.9%

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place a month long ban bet on it.... this time next year undisputed will NOT be beating first take


Lol....Done!

An amendment to the bet.

If Undisputed hasn't scored hire ratings by the end of the NBA Season than let the ban begin then

and let's make it for two months pleighboy:birdman:
 
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im digging undisputed more. skip seems settled like he knows it's his show and he doesn;t have to jock for position. the set looks better imo and they dont do as much goofball stuff.
 

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how quickly we forget it was skip who was calling SAS and beggin him to join the show... SAS didn't even want to do it.. then skip noticed the ratings were higher on wednesdays when he showed up... then he was calling and begging the man to be full time...

espn nor first take give two shyts about skip and his show... fox overbid espn by at least 6 million damn dollars per year... they had to build a whole set, hire shannon, hire molly jr... and do you see the ads they putting out? primetime nfl ads, daytime tv ads, internet ads...

all that money to come up with 80k people watching... they not even making a dent in those ratings... what's it going to look like when they quit promoting it every single day



what espn realized a long time ago, is that nobody cares WHO is talking... if you like sports enough to listen to people discuss the same topics, for hours on hours, days on days, in a row.... then you're not going to give two fukks about who is doing the talking

what you're going to do, is turn to a sports channel, and leave it on while doing other shyt in the background

maybe you got a show or 2 you really like and make sure to tune into... but other than that... you not channel surfing to make sure you hear skip's take on the cowboys after you been watching sportscenter and 100 other shows for the past 3 hours
What you don't get is, it's a marathon not a sprint. First take has had over 10 years to build it's brand and audience up and simply because undisputed didn't take them down in their 1st week does not mean the war is over.

Personally I'm not rooting foe 1st take to fall, just pointing out that they can't sit back arrogant thinking they safe. Shannon is a more credible black man than stephen A who speaking the real to black issues while stephen spent the past few years saying the most outlandish c00nish nonsense we have ever heard, meaning shannon can swoop in and steal a ton of black viewers, and as far as white characters who troll games on a hundred thousand trillion, skip is light years ahead of max who is a good personality but the troll game just not in him, and as the Nfl and nba seasons come up and skip starts his "about to unleash" hedging his bets so he can have a argument whether his picks win or lose and find his players in the Nfl and nba to call overrated and be his season whipping boys, while also finding his players to Stan which will have viewers tune in to hear his rants, you will soon start to see the tables turn a bit and in year 2 , those numbers will start to look a lot closer.

Not to mention being in Los Angeles making getting celebrities easy as hell on the set.

Take my word for it, the contest, them beginning to do face book live etc are all signs they on 1st take have discussed this and see what's on the other side and want to keep their viewership, too early to call a winner, then you turn around 2 years from now and undisputed smoking 1st take in ratings.
 
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Lol....Done!

An amendment to the bet.

If Undisputed hasn't scored hire ratings by the end of the NBA Season than let the ban begin then

and let's make it for two months pleighboy:birdman:
mods how do we make this happen?

i'm good for two... by nba's end

What you don't get is, it's a marathon not a sprint. First take has had over 10 years to build it's brand and audience up and simply because undisputed didn't take them down in their 1st week does not mean the war is over.

Personally I'm not rooting foe 1st take to fall, just pointing out that they can't sit back arrogant thinking they safe. Shannon is a more credible black man than stephen A who speaking the real to black issues while stephen spent the past few years saying the most outlandish c00nish nonsense we have ever heard, meaning shannon can swoop in and steal a ton of black viewers, and as far as white characters who troll games on a hundred thousand trillion, skip is light years ahead of max who is a good personality but the troll game just not in him, and as the Nfl and nba seasons come up and skip starts his "about to unleash" hedging his bets so he can have a argument whether his picks win or lose and find his players in the Nfl and nba to call overrated and be his season whipping boys, while also finding his players to Stan which will have viewers tune in to hear his rants, you will soon start to see the tables turn a bit and in year 2 , those numbers will start to look a lot closer.

Not to mention being in Los Angeles making getting celebrities easy as hell on the set.

Take my word for it, the contest, them beginning to do face book live etc are all signs they on 1st take have discussed this and see what's on the other side and want to keep their viewership, too early to call a winner, then you turn around 2 years from now and undisputed smoking 1st take in ratings.
you're completely missing my point here

at no time did i say first take is the better show

what i said is, ESPN is the machine and people aren't jumping around to follow their fav talking heads

how many people has espn lost in the past few years... how many millions of dollars have they cut out the budget... how many rating wars have they lost??? NONE


they will continue to twin whatever time slot they have, because their name is ESPN.. first take, his and hers, who the fukk ever... if you going up against ESPN, you're about to lose.... don't matter who you steal from them.... you losing


it's like frank ocean.... yes he sold a lot... yes he has the better album.... yes people are talking about him..... now go ahead and match him up against the machine that is universal and drake and see what happens

if drake left universal tomorrow and tried to put out the exact same record.... minus the machine of universal and apple pushing his records with money and favors... he'd do half his numbers if that

drake=skip.... without that prime espn real estate and push and lead in and lead out.... he's doing 4 times LESS... so not even 1 in 4 of his "fans" made a move to watch him even though there's a whole 30 mins where first take isn't even on
 

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This best case scenario for me I hope both shows get crushed by all this :blessed:


I can't sit and watched these forced ass debates I been fukking with His and Hers over that other bullshyt lately they come off more genuine when discussing real shyt and trust me I can't stand Jemele Hill. Screaming A don't know shyt bout no football especially college. Skip Bayless is just a fukking dweeb him and Cowherd the type that just say shyt to get the "LOOK AT ME" attention i'll never give that fukkboy a view.

Skip claim he a fukking Don yet stans fukking scrubs like Vince Young,Jay Cutler,Tony Homo,Johnny Manziel and Tim Tebow nikka should got on that Jameis bandwagon played his cards right nah you stuck having to dikkride your Cowboys and Tebow gimmick in 2016 fukk you your ratings suck LeBron winning in Cleveland should've put this fukking gasbag out to pasture.

Le Batard,Stugotz,Bomani the real motherfukkers I'm checking for same Max and Marcellus had to split the rest of these other cats are garbage these days on ESPN and Fox

5 gasbags I hate the most in hot take era in sports tv/radio

Skip Bayless
Will Cain
Screaming A Smith
Colin Cowherd
Danny Kanell ( you went to FSU but fukk you too)

Amin Elhassen and Whitlock are fukkboys too
 

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how many people has espn lost in the past few years... how many millions of dollars have they cut out the budget... how many rating wars have they lost??? NONE

Your so wrong on this I don't even know where to begin:mjlol: .. espn used to be king and still is for now but I'm sure that Jay Morh and Colin Cowherd do better numbers than ESPNs worse show.. Fox Sports is a legit threat to ESPN today. By your logic ESPN should be number one in every time slot because as you put it "nobody cares who is talking about sports.."

Lol..I don't know whether to :russ:or :stopitslime:to that asinine statement


And as far as the quoted post... read this pleighboy

ESPN Has Lost 10 Million Subscribers Since 2013


Do some research breh and stop drinking that ESPN Kool Aid.:upsetfavre:
 

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Your so wrong on this I don't even know where to begin:mjlol: .. espn used to be king and still is for now but I'm sure that Jay Morh and Colin Cowherd do better numbers than ESPNs worse show.. Fox Sports is a legit threat to ESPN today. By your logic ESPN should be number one in every time slot because as you put it "nobody cares who is talking about sports.."

Lol..I don't know whether to :russ:or :stopitslime:to that asinine statement


And as far as the quoted post... read this pleighboy

ESPN Has Lost 10 Million Subscribers Since 2013


Do some research breh and stop drinking that ESPN Kool Aid.:upsetfavre:
bruh... they haven't LOST ANY RATINGS WARS

nothing you posted nor said changes that.... 1 show doing better than their worst rated show is not a matchup

tv matches up time slot.... is colin or jay the top sports show for it's time slot.... NO


they lost 10 million subscribers and are still #1 in all their slots... give it up
 

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bruh... they haven't LOST ANY RATINGS WARS

nothing you posted nor said changes that.... 1 show doing better than their worst rated show is not a matchup

tv matches up time slot.... is colin or jay the top sports show for it's time slot.... NO


they lost 10 million subscribers and are still #1 in all their slots... give it up


FS1 can't draw shyt only thing move units is UFC and NASCAR its been 3 full years now and they top rated show still fukking Nascar Race Hub shyt been better off just being the Speed Channel like it once was.
 

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dude from the tweets has a website... i suggest y'all do some searches on these names and shows you THINK are doing numbers


2016 Y-T-D through June 8*

Average Viewership
ESPN 6PM Sportscenter M-F 560,000
FS1 6PM Programming M-F 72,000


Monday 6PM SportsCenter 626,000
Monday FS1 6PM 124,000





Thinking about how to look at the ratings for FS1’s “Speak for Yourself”



FS1’s “Speak for Yourself” with Colin Cowherd, Jason Whitlock and Jason McIntyre premieres on Monday at 6 p.m. ET and viewership numbers for the premiere episode will be out around 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday.

There is a tendency to want to compare FS1 with ESPN. That tendency is as understandable as it is ridiculous. And unless you like comparing Toyota Corolla’s to Lexus LS’s the comparison is definitely ridiculous.

At this point someone usually hits me with the “Yeah, but ESPN had a 30+ year head start!” speech. That’s a damn fine speech too and probably does a great job motivating the FS1 troops. It also has the benefit of actually being true! But that truth is a mere distraction compared to the broader truths for FS1:

  1. FS1 doesn’t have the cash to compete with ESPN for sports rights
  2. FS1 doesn’t have a path to get the cash to compete with ESPN for sports rights
You could add a #3 there that was something like “FS1 can not and is not (and knows it) actually competing with ESPN” and a #4 that goes something like “So don’t bother comparing FS1 to ESPN. It’s ridiculous!”

I’m not disparaging FS1* or its staff. FS1 has a lot of great people. But great people can’t overcome bad math. And the math is quite bad for FS1. Maybe the way I do the math I come up with ESPN having 8 times the cable carriage revenue FS1 has and maybe when you do the math you come up with ESPN having 9 times as much revenue or 7 times as much revenue. But no matter how you do the math ESPN has more than 5 times as much cable carriage revenue as FS1 leaving FS1 in a spot where it can’t compete with ESPN for sports rights.

*I’m not disparaging Toyota owners either, I drive a Honda CR-V not an Acura MDX!

Update for clarity: I’m not suggesting FS1 can’t compete at all for sports rights, obviously they can since they have some! I’m just saying FS1 isn’t anywhere close to competing for them on an even footing with ESPN.
 

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Your so wrong on this I don't even know where to begin:mjlol: .. espn used to be king and still is for now but I'm sure that Jay Morh and Colin Cowherd do better numbers than ESPNs worse show.. Fox Sports is a legit threat to ESPN today. By your logic ESPN should be number one in every time slot because as you put it "nobody cares who is talking about sports.."

Lol..I don't know whether to :russ:or :stopitslime:to that asinine statement


And as far as the quoted post... read this pleighboy

ESPN Has Lost 10 Million Subscribers Since 2013


Do some research breh and stop drinking that ESPN Kool Aid.:upsetfavre:
yea... colin killing it out here brehs :mjlol::mjlol:


already moved this nikka to a new time slot cause he was getting his ass kicked :russ:


Ratings for ‘Speak for Yourself’ are as bad as they look


Is the viewership for Speak For Yourself as bad as we think?




BREH WHO BET ME..... I'M GIVING YOU THE CHANCE TO TAKE THAT shyt BACK... IT'S NOT EVEN FAIR AFTER READING THESE ARTICLES :yeshrug:
 

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This is a gatdam lie :mjlol:


Nobody, absolutely nobody was watching or listening to First Take when that revolving door of no named hosts that filled in for Skip and SAS after the NBA finals :camby:

George Sedano
Kate Fagan
Some fat Mexican dude
And a bunch of other lame wack MFs that nobody cares about :camby:
and just to wrap up the rest of your bullshyt arguments with actual facts

in there you will find the ratings of first take, on june 29-30... both days was all subs

did ANYTHING on fs1 beat them that day... i mean ANY show? matter of fact start at the top and tell me when you find an FS1 show on the list




SportsCenter, Pardon the Interruption lead cable sports TV ratings for Wednesday June 29, 2016


Poland-Portugal Euro, U.S. Olympic Trials, Pardon the Interruption lead cable sports TV ratings for Thursday June 30, 2016










can we close this thread up now please
 

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and just to wrap up the rest of your bullshyt arguments with actual facts

in there you will find the ratings of first take, on june 29-30... both days was all subs

did ANYTHING on fs1 beat them that day... i mean ANY show? matter of fact start at the top and tell me when you find an FS1 show on the list




SportsCenter, Pardon the Interruption lead cable sports TV ratings for Wednesday June 29, 2016


Poland-Portugal Euro, U.S. Olympic Trials, Pardon the Interruption lead cable sports TV ratings for Thursday June 30, 2016










can we close this thread up now please



Undisputed wasn't even on then.
2. You didn't even do a good job in proving your point because PTI and Euro Olympic trials led cable sports. :mjlol:

And I clicked both links and it proved nothing :dead:

You still can't name me the unknowns who filled in for SAS and skip off the top of your head
 

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Undisputed wasn't even on then.
2. You didn't even do a good job in proving your point because PTI and Euro Olympic trials led cable sports. :mjlol:

And I clicked both links and it proved nothing :dead:

You still can't name me the unknowns who filled in for SAS and skip off the top of your head
proved nothing :stopitslime:


i'm sorry i can't argue with idiots


but i'll recap it for you one last time


1... nobody cares that skip went to fs1... nobody is going to follow him to make ft lose or make him have high ratings

2... nobody cares WHICH talking head is on tv... ONLY WHAT NETWORK IT IS



so when you say "nobody knows who those subs are" THAT PROVES MY POINT... nobody knows them... i don't know them... you don't know them... and they still beat every single fs1 show on that day

when you say undisputed wasn't on yet.... THAT PROVES MY POINT... skip is doin 98k at his MAX... the fukking replacements did 288k with a bunch of NOBODY's... colin was on then... where's his show on the list??? no fukking where... jay was on then... where's his show at??? NO.... fukkING... WHERE


i can't explain it any other way breh... who is on don't fukking matter... if you are on fs1... you are not going to beat anything coming on espn at any time in your career cause people don't care
 
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