FiveThirtyEight: Once And For All: Michael Jordan Was WAY Better Than Kobe Bryant

[ISO]

Let's look at Kobe and LeBetas wins and loss record in the Finals

Kobe had Shaq don't play dumb...

Don't deflect either this was specifically Bron vs. Kobe H2H

ADVANCE METRICS SAY STEPH CURRY HAD A BETTER SEASON THIS YEAR THAN MJ EVER DID ..


ADVANCED METRICS

Not true

 

[Gangstar8]

Jordan is a meme to me now and that's all he'll ever be known for. One of the old heads tried to show me some highlights. Sat there like, that's it

Bean>>>>

might be the GOAT post in the histroy of coli

 

[Sccit]

I don't think you realize how little sense this makes you stupid rat

KOBE WON WITOUT SHAQ = HE WAS THE CLEAR CUT 1ST OPTION

SHAQ WON WITOUT KOBE = HE WAS THE CLEAR CUT 2ND OPTION


U SLOW FUCC

 

[Sccit]

Because you don't see delusional Stans making awful arguments that Bird, Isiah, Magic, or Hakeem were the best of all time. If stans would just accept where Kobe actually falls among the all time greats, there wouldn't really be an issue.

U NEVER HEARD PEOPLE SAY MAGIC IS THE GOAT? LOLSMH

 

[Bilz]

U NEVER HEARD PEOPLE SAY MAGIC IS THE GOAT? LOLSMH

Of course I have, and the arguments aren't awful and Stan based.

 

[Gangstar8]

Of course I have, and the arguments aren't awful and Stan based.

Stfu fakkit all you arguments i have heard out here have been straight awful and bushes status

 

[Sccit]

This makes no sense because you say Shaq held Kobe back but you also say the lack of Shaq held him back. Kobe put up his best advanced stats with the trashy Smush Parker teams. LeBron put up his best advanced stats with the Cavs. The reason you have to keep making up fake arguments to justify Kobes ranking at the top is because he doesn't belong there.

LeBron wins in every statistical argument because he's simply better than Kobe.

LOL BUT MJ PLAYED WIT THE BEST 2WAY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE WHO ALSSSSOOOO WAS PERFECTLY WILLING TO DEFER TO HIM
.. UNLIKE SHAQ, WHO DEMANDED THE OFFENSE RUN THROUGH HIM, EVEN WHEN PHIL JACKSON WANTED OTHERWISE .. SO JORDAN WAS ABLE TO KEEP HIS STATS SKY HIGH WHILE ALSO PLAYING ON TOP TIER TEAMS .. U PAIR UP KOBE WIT A PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME N SKY IS THE LIMIT. LEBRON BEATS JORDAN IN STATS, BUT ANY SANE INSUVIDUAL HAS MJ OVER BRON .. BOTTOM LINE, U CANNOT QUANTIFY GREATNESS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY NERDS TYPICALLY DO.

 

[hayesc0]

LOL BUT MJ PLAYED WIT THE BEST 2WAY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE WHO ALSSSSOOOO WAS PERFECTLY WILLING TO DEFER TO HIM
.. UNLIKE SHAQ, WHO DEMANDED THE OFFENSE RUN THROUGH HIM, EVEN WHEN PHIL JACKSON WANTED OTHERWISE .. SO JORDAN WAS ABLE TO KEEP HIS STATS SKY HIGH WHILE ALSO PLAYING ON TOP TIER TEAMS .. U PAIR UP KOBE WIT A PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME N SKY IS THE LIMIT. LEBRON BEATS JORDAN IN STATS, BUT ANY SANE INSUVIDUAL HAS MJ OVER BRON .. BOTTOM LINE, U CANNOT QUANTIFY GREATNESS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY NERDS TYPICALLY DO.

 

[FlyRy]

"Meanwhile, on defense Bryant looks like the Derek Jeter of the NBA — soaking up defensive accolades on reputation rather than performance. Over his career (which includes 12 All-Defensive team nods) the Lakers have only been 0.6 points per 100 possessions better than average defensively, and Bryant’s long-term regularized defensive plus/minus of -0.9 is below average. "

I always said kobe's "defense" is one of the biggest lies in sports history

 

[DlAMONDZ]

They forgot the most important stat

MJ without Pippen: 1-9

Meanwhile Kobe "can't win without Shaq" Bryant: 3 straight finals, back 2 back chips

 

[Gangstar8]

They forgot the most important stat

MJ without Pippen: 1-9

Meanwhile Kobe "can't win without Shaq" Bryant: 3 straight finals, back 2 back chips

Back to back titles with the one of the worst supporting cast for a superstar

 

[Saiyajin]

Back to back titles with the one of the worst supporting cast for a superstar

:bronpls:

 

[Gangstar8]

:bronpls:

LMAO you can post any stats that make no sense
no way Gasol > Bosh Wade or Kyrie Love

 

[sfgiants]

KOBE WON WITOUT SHAQ = HE WAS THE CLEAR CUT 1ST OPTION

SHAQ WON WITOUT KOBE = HE WAS THE CLEAR CUT 2ND OPTION


U SLOW FUCC

Shaq during his time with the lakers: 3 straight finals Mvps and 1 league MVP
Kobe during that same time: 0 finals Mvps, 0 league Mvps.

You should've been aborted you piece of shyt

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

I will never understand why people can't be happy that there is actually someone in the conversation to actually debate this. Before Kobe there was no debating that Jordan was GOAT and now we have these two compared daily.

Just imagine in ten years it will be Kobe/Bron/Jordan debate... Have to admit I'm salty with how Magic gets left out though