FiveThirtyEight: Once And For All: Michael Jordan Was WAY Better Than Kobe Bryant

[Sccit]

Shaq during his time with the lakers: 3 straight finals Mvps and 1 league MVP
Kobe during that same time: 0 finals Mvps, 0 league Mvps.

You should've been aborted you piece of shyt

SHAQ HAVING SENIORITY DOES NOT MAKE HIM THE BETTER PLAYER .. KOBE WAS BETTER BY 2001, BUT IT WAS SHAQS TEAM BY DEFAULT, SO WE CONTINUED RUNNIN THE OFFENSE THROUGH HIM. SHAQ COULDNT HADLE PLAYIN ON A TEAM THAT WASNT HIS, HENCE THE TRADE REQUEST IN 2004.

 

[Consumed]

It'll still be debated until the end of time. So long as you have two stanbases of great players that oppose one another in some way it'll be a discussion regardless of if reality suggests otherwise

 

[sfgiants]

SHAQ HAVING SENIORITY DOES NOT MAKE HIM THE BETTER PLAYER .. KOBE WAS BETTER BY 2001, BUT IT WAS SHAQS TEAM BY DEFAULT, SO WE CONTINUED RUNNIN THE OFFENSE THROUGH HIM. SHAQ COULDNT HADLE PLAYIN ON A TEAM THAT WASNT HIS, HENCE THE TRADE REQUEST IN 2004.

Oh seniority is what got him the finals and league mvp

Laker fans out here proudly showing their fetal alcohol syndrome and Down syndrome in a single post

Lol@ your trash can genetics

 

[Ruby'sRevolver]

It was never much of a debate to anyone who saw both of their careers.

 

[Sccit]

Oh seniority is what got him the finals and league mvp

Laker fans out here proudly showing their fetal alcohol syndrome and Down syndrome in a single post

Lol@ your trash can genetics

HOW MANY TIMES IMA HAVE TO REPEAT THE SAME THING TO U WEIRDOS .. IN 01 AND 02, KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER IN THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS....IN THE FINALS VS THE INFERIOR EASTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, SHAQ FEASTED. SO IN ESSENCE, SHAQ GOT FINALS MVP, BUT THATS ONLY BECAUSE THEY DONT GIVE MVPS FOR THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER BY 01, AND EVEN SHAQ ADMITTED TO THIS WHEN HE CALLED KOBE "THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD" IN A POST GAME INTERVIEW....BUT GO AHEAD AND ARGUE THE OBVIOUS, WIT A LAKER FAN WHO WATCHED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GAMES NONETHELESS SMH

 

[Bilz]

Nikka stop it. you was hating Kobe since 2003.

You a hater point blank.

Your reppin' is "fukk the Lakers"

Kobe's a top ten player, 2nd best SG to ever play, what exactly are Kobe stans wrong about?

Read through this thread

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Kobe always had the same range of skills as MJ but he was nowhere near the athlete or physical marvel that MJ was, plus he just had shytty shot selection.

MJ took a high volume of shots too, but he had a way smarter gameplan. Not only did he take a lot of shots, he took the best shots.

 

[hayesc0]

I will never understand why people can't be happy that there is actually someone in the conversation to actually debate this. Before Kobe there was no debating that Jordan was GOAT and now we have these two compared daily.

Just imagine in ten years it will be Kobe/Bron/Jordan debate... Have to admit I'm salty with how Magic gets left out though

Its still not a debate.

 

[hayesc0]

HOW MANY TIMES IMA HAVE TO REPEAT THE SAME THING TO U WEIRDOS .. IN 01 AND 02, KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER IN THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS....IN THE FINALS VS THE INFERIOR EASTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, SHAQ FEASTED. SO IN ESSENCE, SHAQ GOT FINALS MVP, BUT THATS ONLY BECAUSE THEY DONT GIVE MVPS FOR THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER BY 01, AND EVEN SHAQ ADMITTED TO THIS WHEN HE CALLED KOBE "THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD" IN A POST GAME INTERVIEW....BUT GO AHEAD AND ARGUE THE OBVIOUS, WIT A LAKER FAN WHO WATCHED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GAMES NONETHELESS SMH

The mental gymnastics.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The mental gymnastics.

It's bad enough to try arguing Kobe over LeBron, but argue him over Mike and to try arguing he was better than Shaq as of 2001? Every time that you think they can't get any dumber, his stans sink to a new low.

 

[10bandz]

Kobe always had the same range of skills as MJ but he was nowhere near the athlete or physical marvel that MJ was, plus he just had shytty shot selection.

MJ took a high volume of shots too, but he had a way smarter gameplan. Not only did he take a lot of shots, he took the best shots.

yeah MJ didn't really take 3's like that. Kobe attempted like 4x or 5x more 3's than MJ or some shyt, thats what fukked up his percentages.

Kobe's True shooting% is very close to MJ's though.

 

[hayesc0]

It's bad enough to try arguing Kobe over LeBron, but argue him over Mike and to try arguing he was better than Shaq as of 2001? Every time that you think they can't get any dumber, his stans sink to a new low.

Lol I must admit the shyt is highly entertaining especially remembering how no one could guard shaq then your only hope was that he would shoot 50% instead of 65% from the line

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Lol I must admit the shyt is highly entertaining especially remembering how no one could guard shaq then your only hope was that he would shoot 50% instead of 65% from the line

It's absurd. By the end of the third quarter, he would have half the other team's big rotation in foul trouble on top of all his points he would get.

 

[Manuel Hot Pepper Lopez]

HOW MANY TIMES IMA HAVE TO REPEAT THE SAME THING TO U WEIRDOS .. IN 01 AND 02, KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER IN THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS....IN THE FINALS VS THE INFERIOR EASTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, SHAQ FEASTED. SO IN ESSENCE, SHAQ GOT FINALS MVP, BUT THATS ONLY BECAUSE THEY DONT GIVE MVPS FOR THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER BY 01, AND EVEN SHAQ ADMITTED TO THIS WHEN HE CALLED KOBE "THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD" IN A POST GAME INTERVIEW....BUT GO AHEAD AND ARGUE THE OBVIOUS, WIT A LAKER FAN WHO WATCHED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GAMES NONETHELESS SMH

This is beyond pathetic

 

[10bandz]

I love how Kobe retires and mad nikkas still hate on him though

This nikka Kob butthurt more fans than anybody ever.

Everyone thought he'd never win without Shaq, nikkas have been hurt ever since

This nikka Kobe literally the most influential baller since MJ, half the NBA stars play vicariously through Kobe's attitude and approach to the game, yet nikkas act like kobe was just and bum and that Duncan's imprint on the game was stronger

Even MJ said Kobe was the closest to him

Where was Shaq in Game 4 of 2000 when Indiana was about to tie up the series

We gonna act like Kobe didn't dominate 2001 and 2002 playoffs

We gonna act like Kobe wasn't going up against fellow HOF'ers in the 2000-2002 Finals, while Shaq was facing bums

We gonna act like Kobe's career without Shaq wasn't better than Shaq's career without Kobe

We gonna act like Shaq didn't have Penny and couldn't close the deal

We gonna act like LeBron didn't join up with the 2nd best player of his generation, and if Kobe did that it meant he would've teamed up with TD, which would've won them a lot more than 2 titles in 4 years


I hope Russell Westbrook gets traded to the Lakers, he's cut from that Kobe cloth and needs to win more titles than KD