Footage from Da Baby 2018 shooting dropped

[murksiderock]

@murksiderock

Sorry bruh. You my dog but you constantly been saying he ain’t do shyt in Walmart and it was his body guards

That was the initial premise I ran with because that was what was told to me. Amidst all that I mentioned several times the theory that the deceased was a fan and that there was confusion on exactly what happened there, because that was also told to me to...

I dont think I've mentioned the security theory since maybe sometime in 2020 at the latest, maybe 2019. So that was the initial belief I had and I was wrong on it...

The only thing you've heard me mention constantly is that he wasn't out in the streets like that and he wasn't the shooter he portrays himself to be. I believe that, too many people have spoken that from Charlotte, cats didnt even know where in the city he was from until he blew nationally. That security shyt, once a bunch of other shyt started floating around I left it alone...

Regarding the showing of the footage in general, look. I can understand a dude feeling like he has to blow once he sees someone with they strap, that's relatable. I don't think if you are someone who understands your position (at the time this happened he was a nobody nationally, there wasn't more than a thread or two about him on here before 11/5/18), and you're buzzing and on the rise, you're not gonna risk that by engaging in a conflict unless absolutely necessary...

Regardless of what was said he engaged the physical part first and that speaks more to his insecurity, immaturity, and lack of self-awareness...

I will say I'm quite surprised Mecklenburg County had this footage and never actually charged him with anything, a regular guy would have at least had to wear something. I caught a case in this same city, same Meck Co DA's Office, that was based on a fukking still shot of my car at a stoplight several blocks away and a guy telling...

So either his budding celebrity got him off, the fact the witness didn't show, or a combination of both, because he would have been charged in this scenario if he was a regular guy. Manslaughter probably...

I caught a case in Charlotte and did my prison time in North Carolina so I think I have a solid understanding of how the system works here but if nothing else this situation reaffirms that I don't know everything, it's all good...

Seeing the video of him killing homie doesn't change how I feel about fam at all. I'm not a guy who fetishizes street shyt, that walk is first person familiar to me so just in case someone was wondering, this doesn't alter how I view him a bit...

Knowing the Mecklenburg Co. DA's office..they might take a swing at this.

He is NOT well liked at all by LE here.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

That was the initial premise I ran with because that was what was told to me. Amidst all that I mentioned several times the theory that the deceased was a fan and that there was confusion on exactly what happened there, because that was also told to me to...

I dont think I've mentioned the security theory since maybe sometime in 2020 at the latest, maybe 2019. So that was the initial belief I had and I was wrong on it...

The only thing you've heard me mention constantly is that he wasn't out in the streets like that and he wasn't the shooter he portrays himself to be. I believe that, too many people have spoken that from Charlotte, cats didnt even know where in the city he was from until he blew nationally. That security shyt, once a bunch of other shyt started floating around I left it alone...

Regarding the showing of the footage in general, look. I can understand a dude feeling like he has to blow once he sees someone with they strap, that's relatable. I don't think if you are someone who understands your position (at the time this happened he was a nobody nationally, there wasn't more than a thread or two about him on here before 11/5/18), and you're buzzing and on the rise, you're not gonna risk that by engaging in a conflict unless absolutely necessary...

Regardless of what was said he engaged the physical part first and that speaks more to his insecurity, immaturity, and lack of self-awareness...

I will say I'm quite surprised Mecklenburg County had this footage and never actually charged him with anything, a regular guy would have at least had to wear something. I caught a case in this same city, same Meck Co DA's Office, that was based on a fukking still shot of my car at a stoplight several blocks away and a guy telling...

So either his budding celebrity got him off, the fact the witness didn't show, or a combination of both, because he would have been charged in this scenario if he was a regular guy. Manslaughter probably...

I caught a case in Charlotte and did my prison time in North Carolina so I think I have a solid understanding of how the system works here but if nothing else this situation reaffirms that I don't know everything, it's all good...

Respect. We obviously don’t know what was said but let’s assume 3 nikkaz came up to you, on some “give me that shyt, are we gonna do it to you” shyt. You with your girl and kid. What’s you reaction? Especially once you see they got guns? You handing it all over? Or your survival tactics gonna kick in and fight for it?

it’s no one way to handle it. Some nikkaz hand it over, cause it truly ain’t worth, but some guys gonna attack the attacker and live with the results.

 

[Wildin]

I'm talking about from a common sense perspective

Common sense isnt a common thing. You can't depict how a human can or should react. Some people are psychopaths, they have no emotion or reaction to killing someone. Some of them laugh, some smile. There's people who murder others that completely lose their mind, Cry uncontrollably, can't sleep, enter a catatonic state, some people commit suicide....

There's no one right or wrong reaction or behavior and there's no guidelines. "Oh he shoulda done this..." "Well he didn't do this..." "but he did this..." "but how come he didn't do this...." Every single person walking the planet has different reactions and behaviors. So statements like "he wasn't acting like he was in fear of his life" are not valid.

Even to make a judgement that could be used in a legal setting he would have to have had a full psychological exam. A person can't say "the nikka didn't look scared..." we don't know what the nikka looks like when he's scared. We don't how this dude acts and reacts when he is scared.

If you went to court for any reason, they couldn't sentence you based on opinions of how you look, if you are court ordered a psychological exam, then and only then can your mental/emotional/physical state be brought into question. It can be brought up, but without any licensed or certified professionals to administer exams and clarify findings it's just hot air that gets thrown out.

 

[murksiderock]

Respect. We obviously don’t know what was said but let’s assume 3 nikkaz came up to you, on some “give me that shyt, are we gonna do it to you” shyt. You with your girl and kid. What’s you reaction? Especially once you see they got guns? You handing it all over? Or your survival tactics gonna kick in and fight for it?

it’s no one way to handle it. Some nikkaz hand it over, cause it truly ain’t worth, but some guys gonna attack the attacker and live with the results.

Thats a fact, ain't no one way to handle it but my self preservation mode is to survive. Yes, it's happened before, but the chances of guys shooting you in a place as public as Walmart are extremely low, even if they followed you to the parking lot...

I'm rolling the dice and handing over the shyt that they not shooting me in a Walmart. That's if you buy into the premise that guys would try to rob in a Walmart, and I don't think that's what happened at all, even 19-year old aspiring thugs aren't dumb enough, generally, to rob you in that specific scenario. But that's me and I definitely understand alota guys would react differently...

Unless homeboy pulled the strap on him, like we saw dude reaching but never if he upped it on him, I'm not reacting that way there. But I think the fact that I'm a 3-striker and have been in these situations also plays into my reaction...

There is no record thru word of mouth that Baby ever was living like that aside from what he says on wax. His reaction seems as much some rookie shyt as much as all the immaturity shyt. We were all quicker to pop off when we were younger and greener...

Now, somewhere less public, like just out on regular blocks and hoods, my reaction may be different slightly but if three dudes got the drop on me the last thing I'm doing is agitating them. But again I think that's as much my personal experience as it is anything else!

 

[TaxCollector13459]

Stunna dont have these problems with random nikkas like that.

 

[murksiderock]

If you went to court for any reason, they couldn't sentence you based on opinions of how you look, if you are court ordered a psychological exam, then and only then can your mental/emotional/physical state be brought into question. It can be brought up, but without any licensed or certified professionals to administer exams and clarify findings it's just hot air that gets thrown out.

Mostly true bit this paragraph, nah. They charging and convicting people all the time based on presumptions that can't be proven...

What was your reaction when you've killed?

 

[Wildin]

They charging and convicting people all the time based on presumptions that can't be proven...

Not typically on what I mentioned. If it's the state of North Carolina vs da baby or Jonathan whateverhislast name is....they are going to have an expert, a licensed practitioner in the field define how da baby is a psychopath, or crazy, insane, mentally a danger to society.

You can't just throw shyt like that out there with no merit.

If you were to punch another coli member in the face and y'all end up in court....even with some low dollar lawyers they wouldn't advise or allow you to say some shyt like "He's crazy!" The first thing the other side is going to rebuttal with is "Where did you get your degree in mental health? How many years have you practiced?"

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Mostly true bit this paragraph, nah. They charging and convicting people all the time based on presumptions that can't be proven...

What was your reaction when you've killed?

Lawyers make those arguments on the stand all the time

"If he really felt that way, then why did he do x, y, and z?"

They'll say, "They had any number of options to choose from, yet they chose that one."

 

[CrimsonTider]

How this footage get out?

The victim family sold it to rolling stone

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

The victim family sold it to rolling stone

Where'd you get the sold part from?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Where'd you get the sold part from?

From my investigating

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

From my investigating

Youre an a$$hole
You should be better than that

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Damn. There was a twitter thread where the deceased’s sister or cousin literally said this is what happened and that it was crazy that the police hadn’t released the tape.

Baby walking that line right now towards that king von route

 

[murksiderock]

Stunna dont have these problems with random nikkas like that.

Lotta people like Stunna. Baby don't have these issues so much as people do feel a way about the Tough Tony shyt and if it wasn't for celebrity he'd have had to have the same checks and balances everyone else has in that life...

Not typically on what I mentioned. If it's the state of North Carolina vs da baby or Jonathan whateverhislast name is....they are going to have an expert, a licensed practitioner in the field define how da baby is a psychopath, or crazy, insane, mentally a danger to society.

You can't just throw shyt like that out there with no merit.

If you were to punch another coli member in the face and y'all end up in court....even with some low dollar lawyers they wouldn't advise or allow you to say some shyt like "He's crazy!" The first thing the other side is going to rebuttal with is "Where did you get your degree in mental health? How many years have you practiced?"

You've never had to sit in that chair, right? Because there is no statute that says they can't call you a danger to society without medical affirmation...

They do this all the time particularly to guys with records of being dangerous. And they do this to guys who have their own attorneys...

Your lawyer will rebut in your defense but I'm not sure why you have the impression this doesn't happen...

When you're sitting I that chair unfortunately the burden of proof falls to you, the DA rests on your record being the proof of your threat...

 

[Wildin]

Lotta people like Stunna. Baby don't have these issues so much as people do feel a way about the Tough Tony shyt and if it wasn't for celebrity he'd have had to have the same checks and balances everyone else has in that life...



You've never had to sit in that chair, right? Because there is no statute that says they can't call you a danger to society without medical affirmation...

They do this all the time particularly to guys with records of being dangerous. And they do this to guys who have their own attorneys...

Your lawyer will rebut in your defense but I'm not sure why you have the impression this doesn't happen...

When you're sitting I that chair unfortunately the burden of proof falls to you, the DA rests on your record being the proof of your threat...

I haven't sat in that chair, but I've been in the court more than a few times. I know how much the state, the city, or a business is willing to pay for "the expert"...if I continue my job for another 30 years there's absolutely no way I'd ever do it.

And I must be getting old because I find myself self saying " back in the day" more often, but back in the day they used to take the experts word as God. Lawyers, judges, officers are not experts in their field. That's why with any major trial there's some 30 year veteran cop or investigator that's not partial to the case that speaks on what happened or training, there's always an outside expert on firearms or knives, drugs and shyt that gets to speak. My job particularly deals with drugs and alcohol, I'm licensed for mental health also.

Now in 2022 even being an expert or a practitioner in your field is questioned, look how many people scoff at doctors......

A few of the times I just went to court for days and sat, they never call us to the stand, other times they called the expert (the guy I work under and trains me) to the stand and he talks. Cool thing is, he/we/I still/would get paid whether I go to court and sit and never get call or if I provide testimony.

But either way it's a pain in the ass and not worth the trouble, that is unless the person is known to us or a former client, court appointed clients kind of suck but generally it's real simple questions.

But even simple questions (seemingly simple questions, require expert validation) If the opposing lawyer were to say @murksiderock was twice the legal limit! He wouldn't have known what he was doing! He was blacked out! It'd be up to us to explain exactly what twice the legal limit is, how that affects people in general. It's our job to provide the definitions and unbiasly clarify the statements or reports which could either help or hurt your case.