For people trying to put Curry, Lebron, Kobe on MJ's level all I have to do is sum it up with..

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

See Gil, the bolded is why a few have a problem with your posting. This is you twisting and manipulating shyt, moving goalposts to fit your argument.

You mean kind of like how the OP is doing, "twisting and manipulating shyt" by taking Curry's season out of context when people speak about his offensive impact - comparing it to Jordan's postseason CAREER when nobody has even compared the two? Who's really moving the goalposts here to fit their argument? I haven't seen anybody who's said Curry's postseason resume is comparable to Jordan's? Have you?

Don't point the finger at me when I'm just fighting fire with fire.

On most occasions, the teams who plays in the finals are usually gonna play the most games, so why didn't you compare their non-title runs, or better yet, why didn't you compare their title runs?

Because there would be no argument. But you knew that, and still looked for an argument

See now, I'm not the one looking for an argument. I'm not out creating straw man arguments like "For people trying to put Curry, Lebron, Kobe on MJ's level all I have to do is sum it up with..". Why do we have to compare their non-title runs? Why do we have to compare their title runs? Why must we compare Curry's postseasons to what Jordan had over his career? I don't see anybody doing that but these old heads, who've suddenly seen how folk have been just comparing Curry's scoring and his offensive impact this season and turning it into some shyt (e.g. this thread) that basically has nothing to do with the original references/comparisons.

 

[soulfuljah]

The discussion with Curry right now is how he ranks among the all time greats in terms of single season dominance otherwise referered to as a "peak". Longevity has nothing to do with the discussion.

Kobe and LBJ haven't been as consistent in the PS as Jordan but they do have stretches that compare well with his very best. Curry's PS last year was dominant and deserves to be somewhere in the convo as well, although sure I wouldn't say it rivals MJ at his best

The thing is, if we are honest with ourselves, another Warrior has nearly every record sewn up regarding single season dominance. ESPN uses PER to determine this and Wilt is still at the top with his block and steal numbers not even being recorded (and Wilt was a beast on both ends of the floor). He is having one of the greatest offensive seasons ever but to say he is having the greatest individual season ever.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That's fine then because Curry will never stack up defensively to those other three.

Although none of them compare to his three point shooting.

Who even suggested so? See again, this is the issue here - nobody has compared Curry's defensive impact to Jordan or any other legend who dominated on that end of the floor. This very thread is the definition of moving the goalposts of why Curry has been compared to Jordan in the first place.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I also find it funny how dudes make a big deal of trying to humanize Curry for his lack of defense, when Magic's career isn't talked about the same.

 

[KOBE]

Who even suggested so? See again, this is the issue here - nobody has compared Curry's defensive impact to Jordan or any other legend who dominated on that end of the floor. This very thread is the definition of moving the goalposts of why Curry has been compared to Jordan in the first place.

I wasn't moving any goal posts, I just didn't read your second post before posting, I only read this quote:

Curry's 14/15 postseason > the majority of postseasons where Jordan didn't win a title.

which is implying a lot. ​

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I wasn't moving any goal posts, I just didn't read your second post before posting, I only read this quote:

which is implying a lot. ​

Fighting fire with fire. If dudes wanna twist and manipulate shyt, then I'mma do the same. They obviously don't pay attention to reason and sound logic, maybe they'll start paying attention when I give them a mirror to look at.

 

[soulfuljah]

I also find it funny how dudes make a big deal of trying to humanize Curry for his lack of defense, when Magic's career isn't talked about the same.

Magic wasn't THAT bad. With him being so tall, he was slower than most guards, so he would usually play passing lanes or sometimes fall back to guarding forwards because he would get beat off the dribble by better guards, but he was good for steals and defensive rebounds..lol

 

[DonKnock]

I'm still surprised ESPN didn't rank Curry top 5 ever

Their marketing department clearly didn't have input on the list

 

[CHICAGO]

Curry was the Warriors best player and most important player in the Finals. I've already debunked that dumb shyt 1000 times already. And let's not act like there weren't a few times where Pippen had a great case for FMVP as well. Onto the main point, the fact that Curry played 21 games goes a long way in this conversation - considering the fact I value that more than Jordan's one/two series postseasons. Especially since if we take Curry's best series and put it up against Jordan's first/second round exits, they're similar (except for '86) -

34 ppg on 24 shots and 7 assists.

I probably should state that I'm talking about in terms of #1 offensive options.

WHEN WERE THESE 3 TIMES PIPPEN
HAD A GREAT CASE FOR FINALS MVP?

THIS SHOULD BE GOOD...



​

 

[soulfuljah]

WHEN WERE THESE 3 TIMES PIPPEN
HAD A GREAT CASE FOR FINALS MVP?

THIS SHOULD BE GOOD...



​

I can tell you one year it was supposed to be his; 98 Finals. If he didn't need a backeotomy for the last 2 games of the 98 Finals, that would have been his year. Trust...

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

WHEN WERE THESE 3 TIMES PIPPEN
HAD A GREAT CASE FOR FINALS MVP?

THIS SHOULD BE GOOD...



​

I said a few times - 1991 Finals and 1998 Finals.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Magic wasn't THAT bad. With him being so tall, he was slower than most guards, so he would usually play passing lanes or sometimes fall back to guarding forwards because he would get beat off the dribble by better guards, but he was good for steals and defensive rebounds..lol

He was competent on his best day. Riley used to hide him on defense, where he'd usually guard the worst offensive threat. He would hardly ever match up against waterbug guards - just like Klay usually takes the matchup of guarding bigger PGs. He was good for steals, he was a pretty good help defender - sort of like Curry.

 

[soulfuljah]

He was competent on his best day. Riley used to hide him on defense, where he'd usually guard the worst offensive threat. He would hardly ever match up against waterbug guards - just like Klay usually takes the matchup of guarding bigger PGs. He was good for steals, he was a pretty good help defender - sort of like Curry.

Don't forget Magic's rebounds...lol.

And I agree; nobody thought Magic was a premier defender and the same can definitely be said about Steph. But then again, when did anyone say Magic had the greatest individual season ever?

 

[CHICAGO]

I said a few times - 1991 Finals and 1998 Finals.

A COUPLE IS 2...
A FEW IS 3...


1991
31, 11 & 7 ON 56%FG
VS
21, 7 & 9 ON 45%FG

1998
34, 2 & 4 ON 43% FG
VS
16, 5 & 7 ON 41% FG




​

 

[soulfuljah]

A COUPLE IS 2...
A FEW IS 3...


1991
31, 11 & 7 ON 56%FG
VS
21, 7 & 9 ON 45%FG

1998
34, 2 & 4 ON 43% FG
VS
16, 5 & 7 ON 41% FG




​

You do know the last 2 games of the 98 finals is what killed Pippen's stats right?