For people trying to put Curry, Lebron, Kobe on MJ's level all I have to do is sum it up with..

[soulfuljah]

HE SAID PIPPEN HAD A GOOD CASE FOR FINALS MVP...

HE DIDNT SAY IF PIPPEN DIDNT GET HURT
AND MJ DOESNT LEAD THE BULLS TO THE NEXT 2 WINS
WHILE HITTING THE SERIES WINNING SHOT
PIPPEN WOULD HAVE HAD A CASE FOR MVP.

BUT SINCE YOU GASSING THOSE 1ST 4 GAMES OF A 2-2 SERIES.

32, 2 & 5 ON 45%FG
VS
20, 4 & 7 ON 47%FG



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Gassing? Nah because most thought Pippen was going to get it that year because of his all around play on both sides of the floor. If Pip was playing like he was before his back injury got out of control (I think he was already playing hurt), you think Mike would have had to he the series winning shot? Who knows but most people that I personally know that watched that entire series believes that those last 2 games is what got Jordan the MVP that year.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

Kobe is close to MJ through

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

A COUPLE IS 2...
A FEW IS 3...


1991
31, 11 & 7 ON 56%FG
VS
21, 7 & 9 ON 45%FG

1998
34, 2 & 4 ON 43% FG
VS
16, 5 & 7 ON 41% FG




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Pippen's defensive contributions against the Lakers in '91; disrupting their offensive fluidity by suffocating Magic wherever he went was the main reason they turned one of the league's best offenses into one of the league's worst (from 106 ppg/112 ORTG to 91 ppg/104 ORTG). Pippen had more impact on defense and Jordan had more impact on offense.

Similar applies to the '98 Finals - Jordan wasn't what he was defensively and Pippen pretty much anchored their defense as well as being the main ball-handler throughout those first four/five games. As you already know with Pippen's back problems he wasn't able to carry that shyt over for the last two games, where Jordan came through and closed that shyt out.

I still think Jordan deserved the FMVP in both of those years, but that's not to say Pippen didn't have a great argument, as he came close to equaling Jordan's impact in both of those series.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

"81.5 percent of Iguodala’s scores versus Cleveland were assisted. The nearest defender on all but nine of his 37 made field goals was Mozgov, Thompson or 34-year-old James Jones."

Curry - 26 ppg, 6.3 assists while generating a large percentage of the Warriors points due to being trapped and double-teamed
Iggy - 16.3 ppg, 4.0 assists while taking mostly open, assisted shots while teams were focused on either Curry or Klay

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

LOOK AT THIS nikka YALL.




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Pippen had just as much of an argument in '91 and '98, as Iggy did in the Finals last season.

 

[CHICAGO]

Pippen had just as much of an argument in '91 and '98, as Iggy did in the Finals last season.

YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL.

WARRIORS WERE DOWN 2-1
AND DAMN NEAR 3-0
BEFORE IGGY WAS INSERTED IN THE STARTING LINE UP
AND THEY NEVER LOST AGAIN.

MAGIC AVERAGED 20, 12 & 8 IN THOSE FINALS...
JORDANS 31, 11 & 7 ON 56%FG
IS A TOP 5 FINALS EVER.

YOU REALLY EMBARASSING YOUR SELF
LATCHING TO THAT OTHER DUDES 98 FOOLISHNESS...

PIPPEN HAD NO CASE FOR FMVP IN 98.
GAME 1 LOSS...
21 PTS ON 37% FG
8 REBOUNDS
1 AST AND 5 TURNOVERS
FOR THE GUY YOU CREDITED HANDLING THE BALL.

HIS POOR SHOOTING, NON DISTRIBUTING
AND SLOPPINESS COST THE BULLS THE GAME.

GAME 3 WIN
10, 4 & 4

PIP HAD 2 GOOD GAMES IN THE WHOLE fukkING SERIES...

THE ONLY BAD GAME MJ HAD
WAS THE SAME GAME PIP WENT 2-16
AND HE STILL DROPPED 28.



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[#StarkSet]

@Gil Scott-Heroin said curry is having the greatest single season ever?





Hold up

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL.

WARRIORS WERE DOWN 2-1
AND DAMN NEAR 3-0
BEFORE IGGY WAS INSERTED IN THE STARTING LINE UP
AND THEY NEVER LOST AGAIN.
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You sound like someone that doesn't use the right context for the sake of pushing their own argument. While Iggy did play in important role when Kerr switched shyt up, he was by no means the most important piece in that small ball lineup and he wasn't the reason why they turned that series around. All the box score stats suited your argument when it came to Jordan winning FMVP - how come you don't use the same logic when Curry had the better numbers?

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MAGIC AVERAGED 20, 12 & 8 IN THOSE FINALS...​

JORDANS 31, 11 & 7 ON 56%FG​

IS A TOP 5 FINALS EVER.​

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And again, you sound like someone that doesn't use the right context when referencing stats for the sake of their own argument.

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YOU REALLY EMBARASSING YOUR SELF​

LATCHING TO THAT OTHER DUDES 98 FOOLISHNESS...

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I don't latch onto shyt nikka. I'm not like most of y'all who regurgitate the same nonsensical shyt about yesteryear.

PIPPEN HAD NO CASE FOR FMVP IN 98.​

GAME 1 LOSS...​

21 PTS ON 37% FG​

8 REBOUNDS​

1 AST AND 5 TURNOVERS​

FOR THE GUY YOU CREDITED HANDLING THE BALL.​

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HIS POOR SHOOTING, NON DISTRIBUTING​

AND SLOPPINESS COST THE BULLS THE GAME.​

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GAME 3 WIN​

10, 4 & 4​

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PIP HAD 2 GOOD GAMES IN THE WHOLE fukkING SERIES...​

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THE ONLY BAD GAME MJ HAD​

WAS THE SAME GAME PIP WENT 2-16​

AND HE STILL DROPPED 28.​

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I'm starting to think you don't know shyt about defense. fukk outta here just referencing Scottie's offensive #s in Game 3, saying that wasn't a good game from him as if he wasn't the main reason they held the Jazz to 54 points. You call yourself a Bulls fan, yet you can't recall one of the best individual defensive performances in Bulls playoffs history, so you go straight to the box score and state that he didn't have a good game.....



You used the same reasoning to clown Draymond against the Thunder the other day after he had 6 steals, 4 blocks, and made pivotal defensive plays all over the court.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Gil Scott-Heroin said curry is having the greatest single season ever?





Hold up

Where the hell you getting this from? I never said that shyt and I certainly don't think that shyt either.

 

[SadimirPutin]

So much struggle posting. I can't imagine it being worse than this when the heat were on top. It couldn't have been worse, could it?

The Miami Heat had dudes in their feelings more than any other sports team I can remember

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I SAW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GAMES.
YOU DIDNT SEE ANY...
YOU IN HERE CREDITING PIPPEN FOR THE BULLS DEFENSIVE PROWESS
LIKE MJ, HARPER AND RODMAN DIDNT EXIST.

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Even Jordan would laugh at your dumbass for saying Pippen didn't have a great performance in Game 3. I said Pippen was the MAIN reason, not that he was the SOLE reason for holding the Jazz to under 60 points. Harper, Burrell, MJ, Kukoc and all the other role players played understanding defense. Still doesn't take away from the fact that Pippen was the most dominant player on the defensive end. He was like a man possessed during that game, and it was probably half the reason why he aggravated his back due to the amount of times he was putting his body on the line.

YOU LOOK RIDICULOUS RIGHT NOW,​

AND THIS IS WHY YOURE BEING CALLED OUT AROUND HERE.
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So now you've resorted to this feminine shyt because you were wrong about Pippen not playing well in Game 3?

YOU MADE ONE OF THE MOST SILLIEST STATMENTS EVER​

JUST TO STAN CURRY...​

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What statement was this? By mimicking the OP and manipulating shyt by using a straw man argument? Doesn't sound too silly to me since you dapped the OP that uses the same logic.

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GOT PROVEN WRONG...​

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WONT ADMIT YOURE WRONG​

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THEN FOLLOWED IT UP WITH AN EVEN MORE RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.​

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Why don't we ask the Bulls fans if that was a ridiculous statement or not? I'm sure they wouldn't marginalize Pippen's performance in Game 3 like you did.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

YEA GO AHEAD AND ASK THE BULLS FANS
DID PIPPEN HAVE A CASE FOR FMVP IN 98.




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Two part question - did Pippen have a case for FMVP in '98 (not the best case, but a case on a similar level to Iggy), due to his overall offensive/defensive impact. Keep this in mind as Iggy was voted the FMVP:

"81.5 percent of Iguodala’s scores versus Cleveland were assisted. The nearest defender on all but nine of his 37 made field goals was Mozgov, Thompson or 34-year-old James Jones."

Curry - 26 ppg, 6.3 assists while generating a large percentage of the Warriors points due to being trapped and double-teamed
Iggy - 16.3 ppg, 4.0 assists while taking mostly open, assisted shots while teams were focused on either Curry or Klay

Second part - Would you say that Pippen had a bad game (more specifically, not a "good game") in Game 3 of the '98 Finals when his defensive impact was basically unrivaled?

 

[Originalgangsta317]

You Curry Stan's are something else man

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You Curry Stan's are something else man

Can you show me where Curry stans have attempted to compare his career regular and postseason resume to Jordan's?

 

[inndaskKy]

Curry was the Warriors best player and most important player in the Finals. I've already debunked that dumb shyt 1000 times already. And let's not act like there weren't a few times where Pippen had a great case for FMVP as well. Onto the main point, the fact that Curry played 21 games goes a long way in this conversation - considering the fact I value that more than Jordan's one/two series postseasons. Especially since if we take Curry's best series and put it up against Jordan's first/second round exits, they're similar (except for '86) -

34 ppg on 24 shots and 7 assists.

I probably should state that I'm talking about in terms of #1 offensive options.

Zero daps.