For the first time since 1990, there are no hip hop songs in the Billboard top 40

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Yeah. Most of the other genres, from Country to K-Pop, stripped Hip Hop for parts and left its corpse to rot.

That's fine. But the charts are indicative of a loss of soft power that Black American culture has both nationally and internationally.

If you zoom out and look at history, you'd be shocked at how much popular Black music at the time influenced the Civil Rights movement and therefore had indirect impact on the human rights of all kinds of people around the world.

The culture being relevant matters.
yes lets keep it a buck if cacs didn;t fukk with our music so hard we'd been gone the way of the Eastern Native Americans tribes
 

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If you think hip hop is dead and you're on a hip hop forum, where there's so much underground heat being made daily I don't know what to tell you

As for the mainstream, when you have beefs between major rappers it tends to kill collabs
 

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If you think hip hop is dead and you're on a hip hop forum, where there's so much underground heat being made daily I don't know what to tell you

As for the mainstream, when you have beefs between major rappers it tends to kill collabs
The difference now is that underground hip hop always bubbled to the top or at least some of it what's happening now if different,
 

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Mainstream rap has been on the ropes for a hot minute. So many have the same flow, voice, and similar sounding beats. The lyrics are trash to decent, too.
 

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Hip hop isn't dead, bit its stagnant and white people, as a whole, are losing their taste for it. Which matters if the conversation is about "charting" or "sales", because white people are the majority of the paying consumers, and white people are the ones that control all these entities that funnel black artists mainstream (ie, Billboard, record labels, etc).

So if the conversation is about sales or charts then it is relevant to bring up how White America is beginning to distance themselves.

Hip hop isn't "dead" though, because NBA Youngboy, a guy squarely of the modern era of hip hop, is selling out arenas on a 42-show tour at present. This is also a guy who had lulls in his output several times due to legal issues, yet people still want to see him. So he's a clear example of how hip hop isnt dead, but he also has an "it" factor....most people don't have that, regardless of era.

I think it could be a net positive if hip hop continues to lose "market share", for lack of a better word, in the mainstream.


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Still can't hang a culture on one extremely non brand friendly guy/

He couldn't even give Quando Rondo motion. Holmes sold crazy by putting out more music than Pac did each indivdual project does way less than J. Cole does.

I'm not even hating but I'd be surprised if the next tour is nearly as successful, Too easy to have a shooting or him getting cancelled or him not being able to maintain the wave that he's on now. If Durk was home they'd split the audience.
 
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