For the good of the party, Joe Biden needs to drop out of the race.

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Kenny West

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I say this in the intrest of defeating Trump and not as a push for my preferred canidate. All the canidates in the 2020 dem primary have flaws and for joe im not even considering the flaws like his questionable record, possible dementia signs, lethargic/low fundraised campaign, unexciting policies or whatever. Im considering the flaw that is slowly making a Biden candidacy look eeriely similar to 2016.

Burisma is the Joe biden version of Hillary's emails. Within all the impeachment info dumps I've yet to see one that properly defends the corruption accusations centering around Hunter Biden having a 50k a month job with Burisima while his Vice President father has authority in Ukraine. This is important

With Hillary's emails, her shills were content to wave off the damaging information exposed by contrasting it with Trump. We can say with confidence in 2020 that this is an ineffective tactic and only helped build a entitled negative impression of Hillary to voters.

Biden is in a similar situation now. How can Biden shyt on Trump about his nepotism or corruption when trump can punch back with his own examples?

To make matters worse, Burisima was recently hacked by the Russians.
This means if any compromising Hunter Bide info is found, the hackers can sit on that bombshell and expose him in the general election much like how Hilary and Wikileaks played out.

Tl;dr There is a chance that the corruption claims Trump sought was legitimate. Due to his role in the coming impeachment trial, Biden should drop out the race. The risk of his nomination is too dangerous for such an uninspiring canidate.
 
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the cac mamba

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i dont argue with the criticism of biden, frankly hes old and his scumbag son is clearly a negative. i get why you dont like his record

i just cant say with a straight face that i see bernie or Liawatha beating trump in this economy :snoop: i truly dont see it happening

i wish steyer had more recognition. im probably steyer 2024 by the looks of it
 

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And then lose the general, which is the whole fukking point. This is Hillary with less popularity and history weighted behind getting him in (back in) to office.
If Biden is going to lose in the General, that means Liz and Bernie would lose in the General, because Liz and Bernie couldn’t beat Biden in the democratic primary. So by that Logic, it’s a waste of time for you to be supporting anyone.
 

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If Biden is going to lose in the General, that means Liz and Bernie would lose in the General, because Liz and Bernie couldn’t beat Biden in the democratic primary. So by that Logic, it’s a waste of time for you to be supporting anyone.

No it's not because the primary can't account for a lot of independents and people who could flip in a general election (like they did against Hillary, for some of the flaws Joe has) when presented with a brand of populism to counter Trumps.
 
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