For the good of the party, Joe Biden needs to drop out of the race.

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If Biden is going to lose in the General, that means Liz and Bernie would lose in the General, because Liz and Bernie couldn’t beat Biden in the democratic primary. So by that Logic, it’s a waste of time for you to be supporting anyone.

I just don't think a socialist agenda is going to win the general election. I see Liz is trying to distance herself from it though.
 

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Only reason they want Joe to drop out is because they know he’s going to win the nomination.

And then lose the general, which is the whole fukking point. This is Hillary with less popularity and history weighted behind getting him in (back in) to office.

No shyt.



Centrist Dems would rather lose to Trump again than have Bernie win.

Recent events.... :francis:



If Biden is going to lose in the General, that means Liz and Bernie would lose in the General, because Liz and Bernie couldn’t beat Biden in the democratic primary. So by that Logic, it’s a waste of time for you to be supporting anyone.

That's not how it works. Bernie has often shown to poll better among independents than Biden does. Bernie has a message that resonates with a lot of the Rust Belt folk that Hillary lost in 2016, Biden has absolutely nothing. And Trump has huge piles of Biden insinuations to play with, while he's shown again and again that he has trouble coming up with anything effective for Sanders and is low-key threatened by him.

Bernie easily would have taken the election in 2016 if the establishment hadn't forced Clinton on an electorate that didn't want her.
 

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Its looking more and more like 2016 re-mixed is happening

For any of you who played Metal Gear Solid games... if you played MGS2, the 'Patriots' re-orchestrated the incident of events that happened in MGS1 as part the AI system's crisis management capabilities.

It seems like we're having a similar situation here.
sons of liberty references on the coli :deadmanny:

i need scissors 61 :bryan:
 

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this is so ass backwards :dead:

progressives didnt vote in 2016 because they just assumed hillary was gonna win, like she herself did. the effort to vote trump out WILL UNITE DEMOCRATS like nothing this country has ever seen

seriously, how the fukk are you guys not seeing that :why:

I dunno breh :patrice:

Those bernie supporters ride hard for him. I see the movement this time around and the energy. Four years later it's still going strong.

If They gonna be disappointed twice and I see them not voting for a centrist rather than the other way around. Just to be petty.
 

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at this point i think most of the candidates left have a good chance of beating or losing to trump depending how it plays out and im willing to ride it out and hope for the best :francis:

i just hope its not bloomberg :gucci: good luck getting people to vote for THAT guy :mjtf:
 

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I get what u are saying but I thought we were talking about the people and not the powers that be in Washington.

The people don't have nearly as much leverage as they do in the Primary as they would in the general, Bernie has to beat the DNC at it's own game before he can even get to Trump. But once he gets there, they can't stop the people from getting a look at the real deal version of what Trump was selling minus the bigotry.
 

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Doesn’t matter if Joe stays or goes. The only driver that can push trump from the presidency is a sour economy.
 

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Doesn’t matter if Joe stays or goes. The only driver that can push trump from the presidency is a sour economy.

The economy is and has been sour for the working class and the poor. If you can get the main people who have been so hurt and disillusioned by the politicians and the political process as a whole active with a real vision that doesn't leave them treading water, there are a lot of people that chose Trump as the lesser evil candidate that wouldn't have to this time around.
 

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No shyt.





Recent events.... :francis:





That's not how it works. Bernie has often shown to poll better among independents than Biden does. Bernie has a message that resonates with a lot of the Rust Belt folk that Hillary lost in 2016, Biden has absolutely nothing. And Trump has huge piles of Biden insinuations to play with, while he's shown again and again that he has trouble coming up with anything effective for Sanders and is low-key threatened by him.

Bernie easily would have taken the election in 2016 if the establishment hadn't forced Clinton on an electorate that didn't want her.
Man all that dumb shyt you talking, I ain’t tryna hear it. Here’s a BIG FACT, Biden isn’t dropping out to satisfy you far left liberals and twitter activist. Bernie and Liz need to do a better job of convincing more dem voters to align with them, if they can’t do that, they don’t deserve the nomination. It’s not Biden’s job to help them win.
 

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A year ago I would have said Biden was the only candidate to beat trump but now :unimpressed:



Trump is going to destroy him in the election Biden can't go two sentences without losing his thought or getting confused :old::old::old::old::old:. shyt is sad to watch.
 
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