For the good of the party, Joe Biden needs to drop out of the race.

[Pressure]

My favorite thing about Biden is how whenever someone advocates or him, or explains why he's popular, it's never about his policy or his platform.

The majority of dem voters primary concern is defeating Trump, but it ranks top two among the coalition.

 

[the cac mamba]

My favorite thing about Biden is how whenever someone advocates or him, or explains why he's popular, it's never about his policy or his platform.

i will openly admit that to you

2020 is for taking back the white house, not naively believing that the country is gonna do a political 180 on an incumbent with low unemployment and a high stock market. even if the incumbent is human garbage

these far leftists are fukkin fulla shyt anyway. come november 1st when donald trump is in full nazi mode, in all his awful spray-tanned glory, lets see how many of these libtards are talking about staying home

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Trump is gonna call Hunter a crack head to get Joe all out of character.

A young joe would counter by bringing up the pee tape and mocking Chris Steele Bond blowing Ivankas back out

 

[Pressure]

How would a bunch of centrists voting for Bernie merely for electability lead socialist revolution in this country.

Wouldn't they just vote differently down ballot.

They certainly won't be taking to the streets.

Game this out for me.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

No it's not because the primary can't account for a lot of independents and people who could flip in a general election (like they did against Hillary, for some of the flaws Joe has) when presented with a brand of populism to counter Trumps.

I think Bernie could win a general, but Warren is too corny

 

[Shogun]

My favorite thing about Biden is how whenever someone advocates or him, or explains why he's popular, it's never about his policy or his platform.

Part of it might be because a presidential candidate's proposed policies or platform are rarely, if ever, delivered.
Is there a wall?
Was it really Change We Can Believe In?
Was it really compassionate conservatism?
Was it really Putting People First?

 

[Snoopy Loops]

expose yourself as being full of shyt, brehs. embarrassing showing

let me repeat this again, slowly. you cannot claim obama's economy was good in 2016, but complain about the economy in 2020.

He’s just poking holes in your argument that the economy is doing well. It’s not ideal under trump and wasn’t under Obama, but it was in a way better place at the end of Obama’s tenure than at the beginning and that is backed by the numbers.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Kenny West]

i dont think anyone in here looks at biden as anything more than a means to an end: beating trump in 2020

if you want to do a purity test, hes clearly an establishment scumbag. but hes also winning in every poll, because hes a moderate alternative to trump, hes a male and hillary wasnt, and theres a nostalgia for the obama years

i agree that his shytbag son is a liability and that hes a few years too old, but if i saw a better candidate to beat trump in a 3.5 unemployment economy i would say so

you dudes worrying about the base being excited, all i have to say is imagine what the reaction will be to that first obama campaign appearance

How did we go all these pages just to be back at reaffirming the myth of Biden's electablity?

A: Joe Biden should be the candidate because he is the most electable

B: But what about X, Y and Z that hurts his electiblity?

A: Voters will just ignore it [Lie] sincr the goal is defeating Trump.

B: Then why not a candidate that has exciting policy without Biden's weaknesses?

A: No. Biden should be the candidate because he's the most electable

B: But what about x y and z?

And so on


Does this make sense to you?


Whats left of Biden's "electablilty" is the hope black voters dont hear about his record and hold to name recognition. He's a terrible candidate

 

[the cac mamba]

He’s just poking holes in your argument that the economy is doing well. It’s not ideal under trump and wasn’t under Obama, but it was in a way better place at the end of Obama’s tenure than at the beginning and that is backed by the numbers.

nobody denies this

we're talking about the fact that THE talking point from the left is that Obama healed the economy, and allowed trump to start on third base with things like unemployment. which...I believe is true

and if you don't think it's true, and you think obama's economy sucked in 2016, that's fine too. but I sure as fukk didn't hear anyone talking about how Obama's economy sucked in 2016

 

[jj23]

nobody denies this

we're talking about the fact that THE talking point from the left is that Obama healed the economy, and allowed trump to start on third base with things like unemployment. which...I believe is true

and if you don't think it's true, that's fine too. but I sure as fukk didn't hear anyone talking about how Obama's economy sucked in 2016

Warnings signs aside the economy is strong.

Whether Obama left a bullet proof growth plan or Trump has found a way to fuel it ...for now it's good.

The deficit however....

No comparison between the two.

Then the question needs to be asked. How long can Trump keep running up the deficit before it starts to hurt the economy?

 

[the cac mamba]

How did we go all these pages just to be back at reaffirming the myth of Biden's electablity?

A: Joe Biden should be the candidate because he is the most electable

B: But what about X, Y and Z that hurts his electiblity?

A: Voters will just ignore it [Lie] sincr the goal is defeating Trump.

B: Then why not a candidate that has exciting policy without Biden's weaknesses?

because that "exciting policy" is arguably a weakness in itself especially in the electoral college, and especially when trump is an incumbent and not just the untested loudmouth he was in 2016

look man, if Bernie wins the nomination i'm voting for him. i'll even vote for warren. i'm just going with my gut after what we saw from America in 2016

and again, if Bernie would beat trump in a general election then he should CRUSH biden in an election that's comprised ONLY of democrats you should have nothing to worry about

 

[the cac mamba]

Warnings signs aside the economy is strong.

Whether Obama left a bullet proof growth plan or Trump has found a way to fuel it ...for now it's good.

The deficit however....

No comparison between the two.

Then the question needs to be asked. How long can Trump keep running up the deficit before it starts to hurt the economy?

there's no question that the this economy is mostly just cutting taxes on the rich for a short term sugar high . but it looks like it will be effective enough to last another year. so it's hard to watch dudes act like trump can't run on it, when they were touting the obama economy 3 years ago

when Bernie's entire platform is "just trust me that bigger government will solve all your problems, as soon as i can get ahold of other peoples' money", im not sure how receptive America is right now. again, by all rights Bernie should be crushing biden in the polls...but he isn't. among just democrats

in 2024, i think the democrats can fukkin run AOC and win. right now though

 

[jj23]

in 2024, i think the democrats can fukkin run AOC and win. right now though

Is that based on the Susan Sarandon theory that Trump's time in power would push America to the left? Cause I dont see it right now....

 

[the cac mamba]

Is that based on the Susan Sarandon theory that Trump's time in power would push America to the left? Cause I dont see it right now....

just the typical fatigue pattern with the two parties. it seems like we roughly go 8 years one party, then get sick of them and go the other party

if America is this tired of trump after 4 years, imagine how we'll feel in 8 years I mean that's the other thing about this economy. trump literally has nowhere to go but down unemployment can only get worse. no one in the middle class is getting richer with that "wages are up 3 percent" bullshyt. the stock market WILL correct itself before 2024, maybe hugely