For those who are against ADOS.

[Captain Crunch]

Our ally The Most Honorable Minister @Just Meh Meh

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Africans make up less than 5% of all immigrants to the USA. Can you point to this mass influx? Cause the data says otherwise. There is only around 2 million total African immigrants living in America.

In comparison Hispanics make up 44% of immigrants. There are over 20 million legal hispanic immigrants and another estimated 11 million undocumented.

I don’t care about Hispanics, they don’t identify as black and I’m not against black immigration as much as I am black immigration without education on black Americans.

 

[Robbie3000]

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What’s weird about this whole problem, is that nobody is advocating violence. Nobody is advocating civil wars. Nobody is advocating deportation.nobody is asking for legal segregation amongst blacks

in Africa you have full on conflicts between tribes and countries, even after colonization and after them crackers made them imaginary lines at the Berlin Conference


You got Ikiza where the Tutsi committed genocide against the Hutus 150,000 dead Africans (all African)

The Rwanda Civil war and civil war (all African) 500,000 dead Africans

Shifta War between Somali and Kenya (4200 dead Africans)

Wagalla Massacre 5000 dead Africans

1972 invasion of Uganda. Tanzanian killed 150 citizens

And so many other civil wars and wars between countries in African

africas history don’t even say that “black is black” or “African is African”

and you expect me to believe they have no Xenophobic views amongst black Americans when they have problems and tribalism with people who they share continent with?

I’m supposed to believe those people come over here and are not Xenophobic toward us even though most of africa don’t even jack us Africans?



nikka you gots to be crazy. the gig is up. That’s all. I want the best for everyone. But the best for my tribe/my people/my linage first. And that starts with being socially and legally recognized as our own ethic group.

In other words. Africans are bringing that weird ass tribalism over here and it’s only gonna fukk us in the end. Us as in black Americans.

I don’t care if you’re Somali or Nigerian or Kenyan or Angolan. Black is black to me and that’s how I was raised. But I know that they werent. And bringing that weird ass shyt over here is going to hurt us in the end

nikka shut the duck up and go make my hash browns and coffee. You are holding up the drive thru.

Cry all you want, We Are Here to Stay. Your white ethno state is never going to happen so get the fukk over it.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

nikka shut the duck up and go make my hash browns and coffee. You are holding up the drive thru.

Cry all you want, We Are Here to Stay. Your white ethno state is never going to happen so get the fukk over it.

1. don’t call me a nikka, you are not a black American and that ain’t your plight

2. You obviously know I’m talking facts since you want to try to insult me

3. I’m sorry sir we are short staffed

 

[Robbie3000]

Bro reparations matters less to me than being recognized as our own group.

Yeah, just as I began to suspect. No black person in their right mind would say anything like this.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Yeah, just as I began to suspect. No black person in their right mind would say anything like this.

Why’s that? Why would I not want that? Nigerians put Nigerians first
Senegalese put Senegalese first
South Africans put South Africans first
Somali puts Somalians first

what is wrong with black Americans wanting the same?

“just as I began suspect” like that’s some damn sin

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I don’t care about Hispanics, they don’t identify as black and I’m not against black immigration as much as I am black immigration without education on black Americans.

thats cool but answer the question.

Africans make up less than 5% of all immigrants to the USA. Can you point to this mass influx? Cause the data says otherwise. There is only around 2 million total African immigrants living in America.

In comparison Hispanics make up 44% of immigrants. There are over 20 million legal hispanic immigrants and another estimated 11 million undocumented.

Cause if you are making an argument about who is displacing and impacting black americans it would have to start with the group that has the numbers and economic influence to do so which are Hispanics. Just cause Hispanics dont identify as black doesnt mean they are not taking black folks jobs and social benefits. They are counted as minorities and receive all the benefits that are supposed to be reserved for black americans. Black immigrants are politically powerless (Trump and Biden pretty much cut off african immigration ) and make up an tiny insignificant part of the population.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

I personally don’t care if it’s Ados/FBA. It is time
We do need something to identify with the black people who were here pre black immigration.
I’m starting to think that alone is more important than reparations at least at the moment

I’m tired of seeing wild as shyt, and everybody getting labeled black, when they all all BLACK

But black isn't exclusive to American born people. You think when I was in Europe that I wasn't called black? Sometimes I wonder if people on here actually travel the world

 

[Robbie3000]

A lot of hand hiding after throwing rocks.

I expect people with a conscience to empathise with the want to be identified as FBA or ADOS. The need to for ownership, recognition, be a part of something is easy to understand on a basic level.

When people are born into the world, it is important that they're given a name, personal and family. It is a connection to their history and foundation of their individuality. I see FBA and ADOS in a similar vein.

People with a conscience should be able to empathise with the push for reparation in America and the need ring fence the history of FBA and ADOS Americans in that conversation. It is conversation of culpability and what is owed. It would not be right for someone to collect from resources meant to repair damage done to a group when the wrong impact them.

I expect people with a conscience to empathise with the growing frustration in recent years. There is a tendency to lump all groups together which results in key issues getting swept under the rug. Ultimately there is no accountability as the person making the promises has the luxury of controlling the narrative by focusing on the specific groups they are helping.

The throwing rocks aspect is aimed at the behaviour of some of the users on this site. With minimal provocation, the insults thrown at others Africans within the diaspora is on par with the insults I'd expect from neo-nazi. Insulting physical features, calling other groups inferior, telling people to go back to their country, calling their country a shyt hole, telling them to return to their mud huts.

It is sickening and makes me question whether a few well placed trolls are fanning the flames.

Xenophobia is not the big, it’s the feature. It quenches their thirst like a bottle of Avian water after a long afternoon of hooping.

Some are agents spewing white Supremacist talking points of ethno nationalism.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

thats cool but answer the question.



Cause if you are making an argument about who is displacing and impacting black americans it would have to start with the group that has the numbers and economic influence to do so which are Hispanics. Just cause Hispanics dont identify as black doesnt mean they are not taking black folks jobs and social benefits. They are counted as minorities and receive all the benefits that are supposed to be reserved for black americans.

You’ve gone from 30000 to 2 million in 60
Years.

i don’t care about minorities, the same way I don’t care for “poc”
Cause I ain’t no damn POC. I’m black

I don’t want any more Immigrants identity politicking with blackness and black American support.

that’s how you get Kamala to have 99% of black approval and than pass legislation for Indians.

No more of that

 

[HimmyHendrix]

But black isn't exclusive to American born people. You think when I was in Europe that I wasn't called black? Sometimes I wonder if people on here actually travel the world

Black racially
Black ethnically
And black culturally are all different


I am
Nationality : American
Race : black
Ethnicity: freedmen/FBA/ADOS/Black American

so what you went through as a black man in Europe is your plight. And I respect you as a black man. But I have respect and a responsibility to my people as well.

black is not just my race. It’s my culture and ethnicity as well

 

[Robbie3000]

You’ve gone from 30000 to 2 million in 60
Years.

i don’t care about minorities, the same way I don’t care for “poc”
Cause I ain’t no damn POC. I’m black

I don’t want any more Immigrants identity politicking with blackness and black American support.

that’s how you get Kamala to have 99% of black approval and than pass legislation for Indians.

No more of that

Yeah, the first black president has Kenyan roots and the first VP has Jamaican roots.

It’s a bitter pill to swallow, but You’re just going to have to deal with that.

Because we are not going anywhere sissy.

 

[Premeditated]

This is literally the equivalent of “I’m not racist, my family doesn’t exist, so don’t generalize all white people - so you start talking about white people now we have a problem ”

We’re obviously talking about systemic problems that manifest themselves in anti-ADOS sentiment.

But you’d rather get personally offended when you decide to generalize us for supposedly generalizing you

Just like CACS

act like AA didn't secretly look down of Africans, brehs

if anything, since Africans first started migrating here in droves, it's was you all who started the bashing. from way back in the 80s. it was those little feed-the-children commercials that gave yall the ammo to start generalizing africans. so yes, it was systemic alright and the white man commercials was the reason.
just like cacs

 

[Buddy]

OhhhhI see now. This is one of those threads where even if you are Black American and explain how illogical the OP is, posters will defer to scrapping it out with immigrants


My bad I should've known from the way the question was posed.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

act like AA didn't secretly look down of Africans, brehs

if anything, since Africans first started migrating here in droves, it's was you all who started the bashing. from way back in the 80s. it was those little feed-the-children commercials that gave yall the ammo to start generalizing africans. so yes, it was systemic alright and the white man commercials was the reason.
just like cacs

Hell no. The difference is that it wasn’t reinforced by our parents. I never deny the African booty scratcher shyt. It happened. And I would be a liar to say it didn’t

difference is it wasn’t reinforced by our parents, it was an idea planted by media not at home, and had they known they would have whooped our ass. Especially cause 80s and 90s parents were heavy on the pan Africanism. Wearing dashikis and All that.

your parents are the ones who teach you to look down on us. The media told y’all, and your parents reinforced it.