Former Obama and Clinton Economic Advisers Tell Bernie To Cut The Bullshyt

[the cac mamba]

why is 600 billion a year on the military plausible when we're twenty trillion in debt?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Swavy Karl Marx Weren't you championing Norway an hour ago?

 

[the cac mamba]

Little known fact about economists and the economy in general...it's ALL VOODOO.

It's all a guessing game, some of it founded in science and "numbers" but a lot of it is just theory. The machine is just too damn big to really predict much of anything. Imagine a 10000000-levered machine. We know that if we pull 5 of those certain things happen we've fiddled with a few others with mixed results. God only knows what the remaining levers do or how they really interact with each other.

The way our economy is heading is not in a good direction. Debt, access to higher education, increase in wealth gap, these things are HUGE issues. Bigger than most people really understand or give more credit to. SOMETHING has to change. What that something is i'm not sure anymore than most economists what I do know is that the establishment, both dem and GOP, don't want to change shyt. They want to continue on with the same broken ass ideas that have us where we're at.

Do the same thing, you get the same results.

Something needs to change and Bernie is really the only one wanting to change things.

"But his change will be worse BP"

Maybe, maybe not. The reason he's so important is because he is more LIKELY to force the paradigm to shift.

As a country we've been racing towards an economic cliff while the people driving the car have been bytching over which radio station to put on. I don't think Bernie is going to turn that car around, but I think he'll help shift our focus towards the windshield where maybe, just maybe, people will start to see what's coming and focus on what's important.

all i want from him is the DIRECTION

for example, of course we're not gonna get free state college. but if the compromise is say, loans without interest, something was accomplished there

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Tate]

@Swavy Karl Marx Weren't you championing Norway an hour ago?

Will you answer why specifically social democratic institutions won't work in the United States?

And frankly giant bold red text is very hard for me to read so if you'll replicate your argument in a legible form I'll revisit it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Will you answer why specifically social democratic institutions won't work in the United States?

And frankly giant bold red text is very hard for me to read so if you'll replicate your argument in a legible form I'll revisit it.

Lets start why you use populations that are 64x smaller, infinitely less diverse (demographically and economically), and with smaller geopolitical obligations, as a template for running a society.

 

[Tate]

Lets start why you use populations that are 64x smaller, infinitely less diverse (demographically and economically), and with smaller geopolitical obligations, as a template for running a society.

Because those are objectively the best societies bub.

Why can't these institutions work in the United States specifically?

 

[88m3]

Lets start why you use populations that are 64x smaller, infinitely less diverse (demographically and economically), and with smaller geopolitical obligations, as a template for running a society.

There's a pretty simple solution to this problem that @Swavy Karl Marx and you are glossing over here. We can make America's population 64x smaller.

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Because those are objectively the best societies bub.

Why can't these institutions work in the United States specifically?

Objectively? You mean the ones facing reforms right now because they can't afford all these services?

I would support something that resembles MAYBE Germany with a viable private system as well

A lot of these other things...eh

 

[Tate]

There's a pretty simple solution to this problem that @Swavy Karl Marx and you are glossing over here. We can make America's population 64x smaller.

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I would like it known that I volunteered once at a planned parenthood for this sole reason

 

[Tate]

Objectively? You mean the ones facing reforms right now because they can't afford all these services?

They are the best at all the good stuff, yes.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They are the best at all the good stuff, yes.

Define good.

I personally have come to accept that providing certain things is advantageous for individuals, not for societies.

That "struggle" defines a society's ability to create and develop industries.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

all i want from him is the DIRECTION

for example, of course we're not gonna get free state college. but if the compromise is say, loans without interest, something was accomplished there

I dont wanna hear about "free college" if we're not going to address this wild, all encompassing radical access to loans

 

[Tate]

Define good.

I personally have come to accept that providing certain things is advantageous for individuals, not for societies.

That "struggle" defines a society's ability to create and develop industries.

nap bub when do you explain why social democratic programs won't work in the United States?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

nap bub when do you explain why social democratic programs won't work in the United States?

Be specific.

What social democratic programs.