Fox NFL’s Top 30 Qbs of all time

[Supa]

A. Lamar is waaaaay too low.

B. Marino is below Rodgers, Farve, and Brees.

C. Eli shouldn't be on that list. Outside of those two lucky-ass super bowl runs, his career largely amounted to mediocre finishes. Buddy was never a top 5 QB in the league at ANY point.

D. Dan Fouts is too high.

E. How is Warren Moon over Lamar?

F. Mahomes needs to go below Manning as of now.

G. Kurt Warner is too low.

H. Stafford is too low.

How is Mahomes not over Manning? Regular season stats?

Patrick's playoff record is far superior and he has more rings. Manning got carried to his second ring. He was terrible that final season.

Manning was a perennial playoff failure for much of his career. Mahomes has dominated the AFC.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Where is Burrow if Allen and Lamar are up there?

Now I'll swap out Kang Elisha for Joe Bool 2.0

 

[FTBS]

Nobody talks how Patrick Mahomes has been living off his name for the past 2 seasons. Dude has been pretty mid.

If he retired today he is not better than Peyton

Probably because his team was in the SB both of those years, winning one, despite O line play ranging from shaky to flat out bad. Dude been straight carrying that offense.

 

[FTBS]

What exactly puts Rivers over Mcnabb or even Allen now at this point? I can see the argument either way with Eli since he was mid outside of a couple plays. But he did make those plays while Rivers never did.

 

[GilSho]

Man that Broncos move was the worst decision Wilson ever made. He's a better player than like half the QBs on that list.

 

[jaydawg08]

Rodgers is above Marino

Dude has legit clutch playoff moments, and a ring, in addition to all the regular season awards and accolades

Also he’s above Brees. Even during their heyday NO ONE had Brees above Rodgers. He was always 3rd behind Brady/Aaron

 

[jaydawg08]

With every year he continues to play, my Brees > Rodgers agenda grows stronger

Lmao no one had Brees above Rodgers while they were playing. Brees was missing the playoffs playing with trash ass defenses. Rodger was leading teams to NFC championship games with the same type of trash ass defenses and didn’t have the benefit of playing in a dome

They are not the same

 

[horizon]

Lmao no one had Brees above Rodgers while they were playing. Brees was missing the playoffs playing with trash ass defenses. Rodger was leading teams to NFC championship games with the same type of trash ass defenses and didn’t have the benefit of playing in a dome

They are not the same

Rodgers had elite PR when they were playing. Example: you trying to pretend they played with similar levels of defenses when if you look at the worst defenses in the history of the league Brees' Saints will appear multiple times. Brees accomplished what he did while undersized, playing on a ticking time bomb of a shoulder, with a franchise that had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

 

[jaydawg08]

Rodgers had elite PR when they were playing. Example: you trying to pretend they played with similar levels of defenses when if you look at the worst defenses in the history of the league Brees' Saints will appear multiple times. Brees accomplished what he did while undersized, playing on a ticking time bomb of a shoulder, with a franchise that had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Rodgers went 15-1 with one of the worst defense in the NFL

His playoff failures can almost 90% be attributed to his defense. Hell he put up 45 points in his first playoff game and lost

Regular season favors Rodgers

Even playoff stats Rodgers is better than Brees, and he plays in GB in the middle of January (when they’ve had home games)

Brees is a great player.. he’s just simply not better than ARodg

 

[horizon]

Rodgers went 15-1 with one of the worst defense in the NFL

His playoff failures can almost 90% be attributed to his defense. Hell he put up 45 points in his first playoff game and lost

Regular season favors Rodgers

Even playoff stats Rodgers is better than Brees, and he plays in GB in the middle of January (when they’ve had home games)

Brees is a great player.. he’s just simply not better than ARodg

You keep saying Rodgers had "one of the worst in the NFL" but what you consistently leave out and have yet to respond to is the historical ineptitude of the Saints defenses in the Brees era. There's a difference between a bottom 10 defense in a given season and a bottom 10 defense of all time. That's not an opinion, it is a fact.

Regular season favors Rodgers in what sense? Brees has the numbers, Rodgers might have in efficiency but Brees is more clutch. Rodgers is going into his 21st season and that is not likely to change at this point.

They both balled in the playoffs and were let down by their defenses, that's not unique to Rodgers.

 

[No1]

And Montana is 1. Fukk what you heard

He not. You admitted it before don’t try to act different now

 

[jaydawg08]

You keep saying Rodgers had "one of the worst in the NFL" but what you consistently leave out and have yet to respond to is the historical ineptitude of the Saints defenses in the Brees era. There's a difference between a bottom 10 defense in a given season and a bottom 10 defense of all time. That's not an opinion, it is a fact.

Regular season favors Rodgers in what sense? Brees has the numbers, Rodgers might have in efficiency but Brees is more clutch. Rodgers is going into his 21st season and that is not likely to change at this point.

They both balled in the playoffs and were let down by their defenses, that's not unique to Rodgers.

Brees benefited greatly from a dome environment, that’s simply a fact

Rodgers has 4 MVPs, and his TD/INT ratio is otherworldly. His peak is better, his arm is better, is legs are better


Brees had bad defenses but I simply Don’t think they were vastly worse than GBs

 

[b. woods]

@jaydawg08 With the exception of 2009 , Saints defenses were either flat out or fukked up at THE WORST-POSSIBLE TIMES.

Prime example: Stinky's patented Two-Minute "Defense" @King Poetic

And then you add in the struggle "Special" Teams

 

[WaveMolecules]

Eli should be higher.
First ballot HOF

 

[jaydawg08]

@jaydawg08 With the exception of 2009 , Saints defenses were either flat out or fukked up at THE WORST-POSSIBLE TIMES.

Prime example: Stinky's patented Two-Minute "Defense" @King Poetic

And then you add in the struggle "Special" Teams

Packers and Rodgers knows all about struggle of special teams

We’ve literally lost a chance at a SB cause of it (Bostick in the NFC Championship game) and lost a playoff game where they allowed/gave up 13 points against the Niners (Crosby missed field goal end of half after a Rodgers 70 yard pass to Jones, allowed a 70+ yard kick return after half to give up a field goal, then had a punt block that was scored a TD and I think was the 49ers only TD all game)

I say all that simply to say that Brees is elite and an all time great. He was simply never a better QB when they’ve were actually playing together by anyone who wasn’t a Saints fan