From a purely logical perspective how does Jesus being God even make sense?

[the cac mamba]

How can God have a child though , wouldn't that defeat the purpose of being an omnipotent and omnipresent being with no equals?

lol @ the creator of the universe being a single dad

 

[George's Dilemma]

Has anyone done research on how and when the trinitarian doctrine was introduced to mainstream popular Christianity?

There's no shortage of articles that are both pro and anti trinity, including arguments on origins. Still from everything I've read on the matter the Arian Controversy and resulting Nicene Creed is when it became "official" in 325 c.e..

 

[George's Dilemma]

Not true

Jehovah's Witnesses are far from anti-medical with the exception of blood transfusions.

@wusgood

 

[JahFocus CS]

lol @ the creator of the universe being a single dad

He's a strong independent man, he don't need no woman

 

[notPsychosiz]

I really dont like JW tho, theyre anti medical

Again, misinformed ppl in a religion thread.
They are not anti-medical.

They are anti-abnormal. They don't mind band-aids and stitches. They mind putting someone elses body parts inside themselves.

True, my neighbor who was Jehovah Witness in Wellington did have cancer, and went through the process of chemotherapy, but i know they don't utilize blood transfusion, as i remembered her telling me. Other that they do accept medical treatment.

If they need to undergo surgery they will donate their own blood so that should they need blood if something goes wrong the hospital will replenish thier own blood instead of using a random persons, or they request that the hospital simply thicken their own blood with plasma until it can regenerate on its own.

Its not the procedure they are adverse to, its filling their bodies with another person's dna... a highly abnormal act.

(My mother was a Jehovah's Witness for about 15 years so I know most of their beliefs)

 

[George's Dilemma]

Actually there is one group. I used to see them in New Zealand, and surprisingly a few in Khartoum. Here is there material i found online.

Defend Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Don't Jehovah's Witnesses Believe in the Trinity?

Was gonna say the same, although there are other denominations that dont suscribe to the Trinity doctrine as well. Christadelphians are probably the next most popular along with the Church of God General Conference.

@wusgood

 

[Taadow]

John 21:17
"17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Tend My sheep."

Yeah - Peter said that, not Jesus.

You never read of Jesus saying he "knew all things". As a matter of fact, as was quoted in here already
Matthew says Jesus said there are things "only the Father" knows. So they can't be the same.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

Again, misinformed ppl in a religion thread.
They are not anti-medical.

They are anti-abnormal. They don't mind band-aids and stitches. They mind putting someone elses body parts inside themselves.



If they need to undergo surgery they will donate their own blood so that should they need blood if something goes wrong the hospital will replenish thier own blood instead of using a random persons, or they request that the hospital simply thicken their own blood with plasma until it can regenerate on its own.

Its not the procedure they are adverse to, its filling their bodies with another person's dna... a highly abnormal act.

(My mother was a Jehovah's Witness for about 15 years so I know most of their beliefs)

my bad, no disrespect to your mom

but i knew one that was outcasted by jw for a surgery, didnt know the reason.

 

[Misreeya]

He's a strong independent man, he don't need no woman

.....

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

we are all god's children. my son...

So basically there is really no such thing as a fatherless nikka

 

[Thsnnor]

Has anyone done research on how and when the trinitarian doctrine was introduced to mainstream popular Christianity?

1jo5.8 And there καί and, even, also, namely. are εἰσί they are three that bear τρεῖς three. witness μαρτυρέω I witness, testify in ἐν in, on, among. earth, the γῆ the earth, soil, land Spirit, πνεῦμα wind, breath, spirit. and the καί and, even, also, namely. water, ὕδωρ water. and the καί and, even, also, namely. blood: αἷμα blood and these καί and, even, also, namely. three τρεῖς three. agree εἰσί they are in εἰσ into, in, among, till, for one. εἷς one.

In the original Greek. When people started with the other translations they went away from the TR and went with Scholarly Review.

It was there they want to bury it now.

 

[notPsychosiz]

my bad, no disrespect to your mom

but i knew one that was outcasted by jw for a surgery, didnt know the reason.

You can be disfellowshiped for numerous reasons. Surgery is not one of them. At least not on its own, anyway. But its in the details. If you ae getting transexual surgery cause your a dude that wants t*ts, or elective cosmetic surgery like a nose job, or basically something that a religion would consider a slap in the face of god then yeah they are gonna toss you into the bushes. If you need your lung fixed or something all they are gonna do is pray for you and raise money for your opperation they aren't gonna disfellowship you. So it depends on the details.
However, if your friend decided to accept the blood of another person during the surgery thats different. Once you accept the blood of another person your own body is forever altered. You are esentially (and literally/technically), not the same person anymore.
Certain things like epidurals during pregnancy or vaccinations for example may be frowned upon but will not get you disfellowshiped. Its the blood that is extremely important to the JW in the context of medicine... so you may not understand the details in that person's case.

Something interesting though is if you are disfellowshiped for smoking weed or something its like 'get your shyt together' and if you ever denounce weed anf quit you can come back. With blood its more like you are dead now. See, the person you were when you were 100% you no longer exists once you accept blood, so you are looked at like you are a whole new person (which you kinda are scienticifally) cause you are now carrying the dna of multiple people.

They consider stuff like that mocking god.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Yeah - Peter said that, not Jesus.

You never read of Jesus saying he "knew all things". As a matter of fact, as was quoted in here already
Matthew says Jesus said there are things "only the Father" knows. So they can't be the same.

Peter said it but Jesus did not deny it because he does know all things. One example is when he was talking to the woman at the well and he already knew all her past before she even told him.
John 4:16-26
16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

 

[BocaRear]

I swear I don't know how nikkas can believe anything in the King James bible

It's HEAVILY edited and King James was a damn homosexual isn't that ironic?

The King James bible has many occult philosophies within it

 

[HalfwayHandsome]

And Nas is God's son. Op needs to check his first first smh