FSU QB winston wanted to go to Texas

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Mack's winning percentage is the highest at Texas in about 90 years. He won the first championship at Texas since 1970. He is the 2nd most successful coach in school history and it is not even close. The resources at Texas are vastly overrated.

Nick Saban and Alabama have screwed the perception of success up...Mack went to 2 BCS championships in 9 years and that is wildly successful by any standard. But since Nick has done 3 out of 4 at AU, every fan, booster, alumni thinks their school should do the same. They aren't savvy enough to know that they are witnessing an anomaly of the perfect union at the perfect time in Nick Saban and Alabama.....That type of success will not be repeated anytime soon...

 

[ZEupTWN]

Don't they say this about every player who eventually breaks out..."he really wanted/showed the most interest in _________"

 

[Yogi]

Your argument is that Texas high school players are too well coached to excel in college?

The level of coaching and focus on football inflates their star rating. Many of their peers in other states surpass them when they get to college and receive proper development.

For Texas to have so much talent, schools in that state have 1 championship in the last 40 years. In contrast, Florida schools, have 10 over the same period. That is not a fluke.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

The level of coaching and focus on football inflates their star rating. Many of their peers in other states surpass them when they get to college and receive proper development.

What school got more players in the NFL outside of Texas but, Georgia, Florida(maybe), LSU and The U........USC might.....

Your statement aint holding no weight cousin....

 

[Spade]

The level of coaching and focus on football inflates their star rating. Many of their peers in other states surpass them when they get to college and receive proper development.

For Texas to have so much talent, schools in that state have 1 championship in the last 40 years. In contrast, Florida schools, have 10 over the same period. That is not a fluke.

Yeah many of Texas talent does not stay in Texas either. Why don't you talk to Oklahoma who lives off Texas talent. Lots of Texas players head west as well. Texas players also went to LSU. The Florida schools had better coaching on the college ranks, period the last 25 years. In the past 10 years, Texas schools only had Mack Brown. Nothing like a Steve spurrier or a Bobby Bowden or a Jimmy Johnson. The Texas talent basically kept mediocre Mack Brown and greg davis winning 10 games for nearly 10 years straight years. Imagine a Pete Carroll or a Jim Harbaugh with that Texas talent when they were coaching in college football. It is evident that Mack is a great salesman but a poor X's and O's coach. Hell, imagine what Gary Patterson would do with the talent in Austin instead of at TCU. Lets not act like the Florida schools were winning championships with 100% Florida players either. They dipped out of state themselves.

 

[Spade]

Mack's winning percentage is the highest at Texas in about 90 years. He won the first championship at Texas since 1970. He is the 2nd most successful coach in school history and it is not even close. This school with all of these supposed advantages has 1 title in over 40 years. The resources at Texas are vastly overrated.

It's obvious you know little about what was going on at Texas. First Texas actually was a dropped punt away from winning a title in the early 80s. But besides that, Texas had inferior coaching. Not to mention the culture of the conference at the time in the 80s and early 90s turned off many of the best Texas players and they left out of state. Notre Dame feasted on Texas during this time. As well as the big 8. Also, for you to be a successful coach at the big Texas schools, you have to have a good relationship with the high school coaches. If not, you will struggle to get the talent. Why you think Mack always kisses their ass like he does and talks up high school football in the state? The previous coaches didnt get this and as a result, struggled.

 

[Spade]

Umm.. yeah... not happening.... Although Texas has decent pieces at every skill position minus QB, they aren't good enough. Manny Diaz is trash. Texas had the WORST statistical defense in the history of the program so you tellin me that they are going to go from that to a BCS game with the same exact players???? (In Nas voice)Negro please!!!!!! Every middle of the road program has caught up to Texas. Baylor and TCU will not be easy wins. Even embarrassed KSU won't be an easy win because KSU(even with Ron Prince) has had Mack Brown's number. Oklahoma State SHOULD beat you this season if they handle business and OU is going to OU in Dallas.

My personal prediction is 9-3. Losses to OU and OSU then Texas will drop a game to either Baylor or TCU. The rest of your schedule is winnable unless Texas s**ts in the bed against Ole Miss or lawd forbid, KSU.

I don't disagree with much of this. I'm just telling you what the expectations are for Mack to meet. If he loses to OU especially in blowout style again, and he doesn't challenge for the conference for the fourth straight year, there be a new coach on the sidelines next season. The part about okie state should beat Texas thing I don't agree with. But the reason why Baylor and Eapecially TCU caught up with Texas is simply better coaching.

 

[Mr swag]

Brown asked them all to be WRs

 

[Marvel]

Yeah that's not true. Texas had no chance at him. He was going to Stanford regardless. Not to mention, Texas got another 5 star QB and that SMU QB shall remain nameless.

Now the RG3 thing. That's unforgivable. He wanted to go to Texas but Mack was only recruiting him to be DB. Mack has been fukkin up for years now. He couldn't find a suitable running back for years before he got Malcolm Brown. He could have gotten Christine Michael because he also wanted to go to Texas.

Mack has to not only beat OU, but he needs to either win the conference or be in contention of a BCS bowl. If none of this happens, heads will be rolling again.

One of my co-workers friend's sons was a big time recruit

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrec...mith-132245;_ylt=AobkPmxuUbPGPMftsw8.rVRGPZB4

Dude had dreamed all his life about going to Texas. He went to Austin and Manny Diaz and Mack Brown treated him like he was worthless, didn't even meet him in person and left him and his family in the recruiting office. The coaching staff art Texas is a cocky bunch. Needless to say, he visits Bama and he and his family meet Saban in person and was treated nicely. He signed with them on the spot. True story.

I have been saying it for the past 5 years, Mack Brown has to go. He is like Jerry Jones...he has lost his touch and the people around him in the past were the real ones getting the right talent and developing them.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Nick Saban and Alabama have screwed the perception of success up...Mack went to 2 BCS championships in 9 years and that is wildly successful by any standard. But since Nick has done 3 out of 4 at AU, every fan, booster, alumni thinks their school should do the same. They aren't savvy enough to know that they are witnessing an anomaly of the perfect union at the perfect time in Nick Saban and Alabama.....That type of success will not be repeated anytime soon...

it's crazy how people lose perspective on how much of an accomplishment it is to win a BCS title, much less get to the big game.

running the table is one thing you somewhat have control of that, but to have the right ranking and for the right teams to lose at the right time and the computers being in your favor are all things that you have no control over.

 

[Numpsay]

Y'all pick and choose what y'all decide to eat up from the media. Winston was never coming to UT, just was playing the recruiting game. It was gonna be FSU, Stanford or Bama.


And we really going to act like the whole nation doesn't eat off of Texas talent?

 

[QuintessentialBM]

Nick Saban and Alabama have screwed the perception of success up...Mack went to 2 BCS championships in 9 years and that is wildly successful by any standard. But since Nick has done 3 out of 4 at AU, every fan, booster, alumni thinks their school should do the same. They aren't savvy enough to know that they are witnessing an anomaly of the perfect union at the perfect time in Nick Saban and Alabama.....That type of success will not be repeated anytime soon...

Stoops is the only other coach that can compare with that kind of success despite his BCS title game record but I agree. It's an anomaly and Saban is in a class by himself.

 

[jadillac]

Anyone that says Texas had a chance at Winston needs to stop talking now.

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread...

Texas had no chance at Winston.

"I'm an OU fan but I always wanted to go to Texas. If I'd gotten offer from Texas I'd be going to Texas right now" Winston was quoted as saying by ESPN's Brett McMurphy.

That's pretty cut and dry. Texas didnt pursue him further b/c "they didnt think he was serious about attending UT"

Nick Saban and Alabama have screwed the perception of success up...Mack went to 2 BCS championships in 9 years and that is wildly successful by any standard. But since Nick has done 3 out of 4 at AU, every fan, booster, alumni thinks their school should do the same. They aren't savvy enough to know that they are witnessing an anomaly of the perfect union at the perfect time in Nick Saban and Alabama.....That type of success will not be repeated anytime soon...

Win or lose, Stoops went to 4 BCS championships in 9 years.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

"I'm an OU fan but I always wanted to go to Texas. If I'd gotten offer from Texas I'd be going to Texas right now" Winston was quoted as saying by ESPN's Brett McMurphy.

That's pretty cut and dry. Texas didnt pursue him further b/c "they didnt think he was serious"



Win or lose, Stoops went to 4 BCS championships in 9 years.

Hey. I hear ya. And when I hear people call Stoops a loser and what not I just gotta give them the the face.

 

[Spade]

Stoops is the only other coach that can compare with that kind of success despite his BCS title game record but I agree. It's an anomaly and Saban is in a class by himself.

What really changed the landscape of college football was what happened in 2000, 2001, and 2002. Each coach won the national championship in their 2nd year. So everybody wanted to win now. It use to be that you are patient and build up to it which could take a few years. Now, you have to win now or, you could be out after year 3.

Actually, I'm wrong. Coker won in his first year. Makes it even worse really.