Fueled by Bribes, Somalia’s Election Seen as Milestone of Corruption (Farmaajo is Somali President!)

[thatrapsfan]

Tbh we need to diversify away from the gulf as our main trade partners. They've been screwing us over for decades.

Who will buy livestock (camels) if not the Gulf? When Somalia had agricultural exports (bananas mainly) Gulf was also a major market then. Right now almost all second-hand cars and major construction materials Somalia uses are imported via Dubai. If this gets rebuilt in the future, the same will occur. I agree that we need to have several options, but its not a zero sum game. The link will always exist.

Besides, name me any country in the region that you think is worth replicating and you will see they have links with Gulf. That money cannot be ignored.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Hard to say, the UN Monitoring Group and Matt Bryden said he has links with Al-Shabaab

But the UN Monitoring Group report on Khaire hasn't been confirmed..

A dispatch from the SEMG panel's coordinator to the Security Council last year affirmed that he was no longer under investigations.

“The SEMG has investigated links between Mr. Hassan Khaire and extremist groups,” it states. “I wish to confirm that the SEMG has not found credible evidence of such links and that, in the absence of any new information received by the SEMG clearly demonstrating such links, we now consider this line of inquiry to have reached a conclusion.”


They cleared him.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Somalia needs a dictator. Democracy doesn't work for us and guys what's the word on this new PM? Is he corrupt like the interweb rumors are implying?

Brehs talking about dictatorship and anti-corruption You must be from Columbus.

 

[Tribaligenesis]

Brehs talking about dictatorship and anti-corruption You must be from Columbus.

What was Siad Barre, if not a dictator.

 

[thatrapsfan]

What was Siad Barre, if not a dictator.

Corruption in Somalia started in 1991

 

[Tribaligenesis]

Corruption has always been a part of Somalia. Perhaps to a lesser degree, but it was still there.
No country in the world is without corruption.

The same could be argued for when we did not actually have a government, since there were no measurements to be had in regards to corruption?

 

[Trajan]

Anti-Arabism is popular on Somali social media but its reactionary. They are still our top market for our goods and huge percentage of imports into Somalia come through Dubai. Giving their proximity and wealth, we will always be interlinked with the Gulf for better or worse. They will be a source of investment. The point is to better leverage it, its not a zero-sum competition where you should have to choose between one or the other.


Somalis love Trumpist trade concepts

The thing with the Arabs is, they don't really have their own foreign policy agenda beyond checking Iran. So any Arab initiatives you get are usually dreamed up in Washington and they are asked to implement since Arabs are more palatable to Somalis. Arab organisations are also pretty toothless and exist in name only. Is there anything the Arab League done ? It's a talking shop and most of the members esp the Khaleejis cannot stand each other. The last summit was skipped by the big boys (all with excuses) and was attended by Mauritania, Somalia, Djibouti etc lmao. Bro Arabs are tribal by nature if they were going to do anything they would've done it for their fellow Arabs. The rich khaleejis enjoy being special snowflakes and don't want others to come up. They have a chip on their shoulder about being looked down upon as illiterate nomads by the more civilised Arabs like Syrians and Egyptians. They finally have the upper hand over them. A potentially non-Khaleeji, oil rich, stable Muslim country across the Gulf Aden would disturb their current stranglehold

And UAE has taken a attitude towads us nowadays.

Dubai police deputy backs Trump’s travel ban

Khalfan described those affected by the policy – including nationals from Iran, Iraq and Somalia, as not worthy of entering the US.

"America doesn't have to accept underdeveloped people, they've already taken in many before. Unproductive groups don't deserve to be in America - Iranians or Iraqis or Somalis," he said.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/med...travel-ban-on-Muslim-majority-countries-.html



Their Foreign Minister also backed it.

He said that most Muslims and Muslim countries were not included in the ban.

The affected countries, he added, faced "challenges" that they needed to address.

"The United States has taken a decision that is within the American sovereign decision," he said at a joint news conference with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in the capital, Abu Dhabi.

"There are attempts to give the impression that this decision is directed against a particular religion, but what proves this talk to be incorrect first is what the US administration itself says ... that this decision is not directed at a certain religion."

They'll throw us under the bus at the drop of a hat. We need to diversify away from them.

 

[Karb]

Brehs talking about dictatorship and anti-corruption You must be from Columbus.

We need Aabo Siad back fam :Kendrick:

This time it will be different:Coleworld:

 

[thatrapsfan]

The thing with the Arabs is, they don't really have their own foreign policy agenda beyond checking Iran. So any Arab initiatives you get are usually dreamed up in Washington and they are asked to implement since Arabs are more palatable to Somalis. Arab organisations are also pretty toothless and exist in name only. Is there anything the Arab League done ? It's a talking shop and most of the members esp the Khaleejis cannot stand each other. The last summit was skipped by the big boys (all with excuses) and was attended by Mauritania, Somalia, Djibouti etc lmao. Bro Arabs are tribal by nature if they were going to do anything they would've done it for their fellow Arabs. The rich khaleejis enjoy being special snowflakes and don't want others to come up. They have a chip on their shoulder about being looked down upon as illiterate nomads by the more civilised Arabs like Syrians and Egyptians. They finally have the upper hand over them. A potentially non-Khaleeji, oil rich, stable Muslim country across the Gulf Aden would disturb their current stranglehold

And UAE has taken a attitude towads us nowadays.

Dubai police deputy backs Trump’s travel ban


http://english.alarabiya.net/en/med...travel-ban-on-Muslim-majority-countries-.html



Their Foreign Minister also backed it.



They'll throw us under the bus at the drop of a hat. We need to diversify away from them.

Well aware of all this.


My points are simple and that is: Arabs are not the central cause of our problems, and the solution will not simply be had by cutting ties.

That doesnt mean I think theyre saviours or anything like that. Just means there will always be a market for us and potential source of investment. The more trading partners we can leverage against each other, the better. We've already seen what extreme reliance on one partner looked like in the Cold War.

 

[Karb]

What was Siad Barre, if not a dictator.

He made some serious mistakes. But let's not forget that the kacaan regime had popular support leading up to the '77 war.

Western democracy won't work in Somalia

Somalis need that karbaash :Hemad:

 

[Karb]

Somali nikkas were calling another man daddy before '91

Literally:Breezy:

 

[Tribaligenesis]

He made some serious mistakes. But let's not forget that the kacaan regime had popular support leading up to the '77 war.

Western democracy won't work in Somalia

Somalis need that karbaash :Hemad:

Russian democracy

 

[Karb]

Russian democracy

We need a Putin

 

[Tribaligenesis]

We need a Putin

Impossible we're a tall people.

 

[Grano-Grano]

Brehs talking about dictatorship and anti-corruption You must be from Columbus.

No. I'm from the northeast, however I believe in the Kacaan philosophy for the simple fact. That's when were the most powerful and developed. After '91 we had no government.