fukk Kamala Harris.

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Polls are useless as some people won't admit they'll vote for Trump out of fear of the backlash

see: Hillary, 2016
That's bullshid, tbh.

Trump is the President. We've had 5 years of this fool being on TV everyday. His whole time in office, his approval rating has averaged at 42%. He got 46% of the vote in 2016 nationally. He's polling at 42% nationally and in the pivotal states of WI, MI, PA... the 3 states he won by 77,000 votes TOTAL to win the electoral college.

The polling nationally was on point. In November, Hillary was polling at popular vote by 3% on average. She ended up really getting 48% of the vote, beating Trump by 2 points.

The polling was off in Wisconsin. Why? Pollsters didn't weigh by education.

The polling in Michigan and Pennsylvania had Hillary on average getting 47% of the vote... which is exactly what she got in each state. The difference? Trump got the margin of error and undecided voters swung hard for him 2016. He won the votes of those who hated both candidates.

In 2020? Trump is more hated than Biden. Biden is not hated like Hillary was. Plus, there are less undecided voters and those who are undecided are demographically gonna probably lean democratic.
 

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Why are you quoting my question but not answering the question in the post?

Anyway, you can see progress in fair housing laws and against redlining whenever Democrats control HUD as one example. Expansion of benefits like SNAP benefits, typically done under Democratic leadership, helps to at least patch the economic damage that GOP leadership does to black Americans every time they get in office and set us back. The ACA legit saved black lives, especially poorer black folks in states that expanded Medicare and Medicaid. I know it legit helped members of my family get health care they needed that they could actually afford.

These are just a few things - there are more - but none of them are sexy because we're in a country that a) is mostly white and b) that has a party of almost all white people that gets in power and basically kills black people as much as possible before the Dems get in and have 2-4 years to stop the bleeding with a D-D-D government.



OK, so "not voting" gets you nothing. If every black person in America didn't vote and Biden won, the lesson is, "Don't need the black vote to win, don't be concerned with helping them." If every black person in America didn't vote and Biden lost, the response would be to move to the right, which would make life worse for black folks.

That crime bill we all hate so much is a result of Democrats getting worked by Reagan and Bush for twelve straight years and the party moving to the right to attract more white voters by picking that cracka-ass cracka Bill Clinton from motherfukking Arkansas, a man who showed that he could be tough on crime too by killing a mentally-deficient black man who didn't understand that he committed a crime in the electric chair as part of his campaign.

We know from history that Democrats move right when they can't win. Why? Because most of the voting public is white.

So I still don't see what not voting does just based on a knowledge of history and how outnumbered we are.

Per your second response, what other possibility of getting "what you want" do you have other than through government, that thing which has an effect on your life no matter how much you ignore it?

If you want reparations, for example, where are they coming from if you choose to sit out government participation? If you want to get money and property for yourself individually, I guess you can do that, but if Republicans get power and put up anti-black roadblocks (like the Trump cabinet is doing right now in places like HUD), then you might not be so lucky.

It's like, I'm genuinely willing to go a different way if y'all "withhold your vote" people could show me one that makes sense because incrementalism isn't great. It's just the best possible options out of all the options.
Cool, so nothing besides some trickle down bullshyt

Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice all happened under Obama so what the fukk are yoi even talking about? Their killers are still walking around scot free

And you didn't ask a question in the post of yours i quoted so again, what the fukk are you talking about?
 

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That's bullshid, tbh.

Trump is the President. We've had 5 years of this fool being on TV everyday. His whole time in office, his approval rating has averaged at 42%. He got 46% of the vote in 2016 nationally. He's polling at 42% nationally and in the pivotal states of WI, MI, PA... the 3 states he won by 77,000 votes TOTAL to win the electoral college.

The polling nationally was on point. In November, Hillary was polling at popular vote by 3% on average. She ended up really getting 48% of the vote, beating Trump by 2 points.

The polling was off in Wisconsin. Why? Pollsters didn't weigh by education.

The polling in Michigan and Pennsylvania had Hillary on average getting 47% of the vote... which is exactly what she got in each state. The difference? Trump got the margin of error and undecided voters swung hard for him 2016. He won the votes of those who hated both candidates.

In 2020? Trump is more hated than Biden. Biden is not hated like Hillary was. Plus, there are less undecided voters and those who are undecided are demographically gonna probably lean democratic.

Popular vote does not matter. Electoral votes are decided by counties in the states that do not split their votes. It did not matter what Hillary polled at - she lost the EC. Polling is what voters at an individual level TELL you, not what they will do. And until you can get a county perspective it is irrelevant.
 

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The two party system is a mess tho. Americans in general are obsessed with tradition—
All that peer pressure from dead people they ain't changing the system even tho majority of Americans aren't happy. :beli:

Americans are obsessed with tribalism and being "on a side". This thread is a good example.
 

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Popular vote does not matter. Electoral votes are decided by counties in the states that do not split their votes. It did not matter what Hillary polled at - she lost the EC. Polling is what voters at an individual level TELL you, not what they will do. And until you can get a county perspective it is irrelevant.
National polling is important though. Biden on average is getting 49% or 50% in nationally polling right now. Hillary wasn't averaging that, she was closer to 46%.

What does that mean?

If you win the popular vote by 7% or so, you getting 350 electoral college votes... which is what Biden would get if the election were today.

It also means that Biden with his investments has been not taking WI, MI, and PA for granted and running advertisements and the state Dems are being very aggressive in those 3 states so that the margin of victory is big and you don't have the fukkery of 2016 where Hillary lost WI by 23,000, lost MI by 10,000, lost PA by 44,000
 

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How Kamala Harris' Indian roots shaped her political views
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Joe Biden the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee named Kamala Harris as his vice presidential pick, making the California senator the first Black and South Asian American woman to run on a major political party's presidential ticket. Harris was raised by her Indian mother. CNN's Vedika Sud speaks to her extended family in India on how her Indian roots shaped her political views.

How Kamala Harris' Indian roots shaped her political views

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Ain't nothing black about this bytch. She went to an HBCU and joined the AKA to get some black cred.
 

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fukk a crime bill that came out the year Ready To Die dropped. And fukk the both sides agent speak. How do you feel about this? This is brand new...why you want to ignore this to talk about 94?



This is how disingenuous you are. There's a thread about that tweet where wr concluded he was talking about reducing the stats of estimated # of suburban minorities from 35% to 30% (for no real reason, just trump shyt).

Meanwhile, black fathers are still locked up off that crime bill. fukk you. I really am starting to believe you Asian, to say some shyt like that. Disgusting. :scust:
 

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I'll just leave this here .. :troll:

Some issues - Thanks to Trump KKK talking points are mainstream and acceptable. Trump is reforming the judiciary as we speak. Trump has loaded up the supreme court with right-winger lunatics. Trump is rolling back affirmative action. Trump has fanned the flames of racism by saying stuff like "due to immigration Europe will soon be lost". Trump has legitimized people like Bannon - Bannon is now running around Europe building right-wing politics.

Trump invited white nationalists and separatists like Bannon, Gorka (Nazi), Miller into government and supports miscreants like King (Rep). These are people who have fanned the flames of white nationalism and have aided the rise of far-right parties and a general degradation of race relations in many countries the world and primarily for the black diaspora in Europe and the Americas.

They are rolling legislation back to repeal hard fought rights and trying to take us back to a time when they had more power.

The question is will you vote for a man who brings people into his inner circle in government who would rid the earth of you if they could?







https://www.thecoli.com/posts/36497053/
 

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Voting for Biden and Kamala is like the dirty deed that needs to be done, I understand it but I don't wanna get my hands dirty doing it :manny:


Those two have too many skeletons in their closets for me to register a vote for them in good conscience, whatever happens I'll find a way to survive it
 
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