fukk OUTTA HERE: GKMC is not a classic... aint even close

[Ninjaz In Paris]

nikkas can't even agree on what a classic is & isn't & wonder why nobody takes the opinions of "Hip Hop Purists" seriously...

 

[CDoty]

nikkas can't even agree on what a classic is & isn't & wonder why nobody takes the opinions of "Hip Hop Purists" seriously...

because they be standing next to a girl texting they friend like "yo look at this girl bruh. look at her."

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

it's a real special album, people are feeling this shyt and its hitting them. i'm glad that this thread is so adamantly full of defenders standing true to the statement, every motherfukker on the coli is wrong except for OP and the band of two or three posters that are dapping the people that say it isnt a classic?


typical coli logic by people trying to discredit works: my opinion is it isn't a classic, though a vast majority of people feel that it is so. therefore that vast majority is clearly wrong, and i'm the only one who can be correct


the one most noticeable thing about forums is this complete lack of compromise. it's okay to not like everything, but everyone has to act like the other party is completely wrong and then hyperbolize it to some shyt like "aint even close to a classic" or "my friend's amateur rap album is >>> gkmc"


just say you aint feeling it, but don't try to knock the acclaim of an album just cause it wasn't your cup of tea. i'm not gonna sit there and say cannibal ox, company flow, digable planets do not have incredible albums or true classics, because they've built that reputation in the canon even though i personally do not love those albums

 

[obarth]

The problem is that people here are being force-fed that classic label, and it annoys them. It reaches a point where it just seems like an industry-wide push, and that all of its shortcomings are overlooked. I've never seen anything like it. But just look at this very thread and all the different angles people are using to justify its classic status and you can see why a bunch of people have the face. "Yeah that song isn't great by itself or all, but in the context of the album I got to give it like a 5 out 5." "Yeah he wasn't spitting on that track, but the complexity of his flow at the current point = 5 out 5." What kind of shyt is....

Nobody is being force-fed anything. You don't have to agree the album is classic. I don't think the album is classic...not because I don't think the quality is up to par, but because I just tend to wait longer than a few months to say shyt like that. This is a forum, cats are gonna stan and cats are gonna hate. So there are gonna be pleas copped/flimsy justifications and irrational gripes. My whole point is that the culture, something a lot bigger than the collection of coli posters, is going to dictate the legacy this album has.

And the whole industry thing: the industry can put an artist out there but they can't force people to feel that artist. A lot of dudes point to B.E.T award show appearances and the like to say he's being forced down everyone's throats and I think that's off base. You can plaster someone on screen all you want but that doesn't necessarily compel people to fukk with that artist. Kendrick got an overwhelming amount of love from critics, industry types but most importantly by the fans. Dude's on his way to platinum and the negative opinions about GKMC are far and few in between.

As for as breaking down ratings for particular songs, that's an exercise in futility, imo. "Real" is the only song I'm not a fan of on the album and "Compton" is whatever to me, but I think every other song on there is stellar. Other dudes feel differently. Classics are judged as a whole at the end of the day. I can pick any album considered classic, make a thread about it with numbered ratings for each song and there would be disagreements and even people straight up saying they didn't like certain tracks. Regardless, those albums made their mark already and are cemented in hip hop history as classic.

 

[Enchanted]

The problem is that people here are being force-fed that classic label, and it annoys them. It reaches a point where it just seems like an industry-wide push, and that all of its shortcomings are overlooked. I've never seen anything like it. But just look at this very thread and all the different angles people are using to justify its classic status and you can see why a bunch of people have the face. "Yeah that song isn't great by itself or all, but in the context of the album I got to give it like a 5 out 5." "Yeah he wasn't spitting on that track, but the complexity of his flow at the current point = 5 out 5." What kind of shyt is....

THANK YOU MY nikka. I would give you 5 million daps if I could.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Wait.

Hold up.

Dudes saying TM 101 ain't a classic?

We need a board...

 

[MINT]

Nobody is being force-fed anything. You don't have to agree the album is classic. I don't think the album is classic...not because I don't think the quality is up to par, but because I just tend to wait longer than a few months to say shyt like that. This is a forum, cats are gonna stan and cats are gonna hate. So there are gonna be pleas copped/flimsy justifications and irrational gripes. My whole point is that the culture, something a lot bigger than the collection of coli posters, is going to dictate the legacy this album has.

And the whole industry thing: the industry can put an artist out there but they can't force people to feel that artist. A lot of dudes point to B.E.T award show appearances and the like to say he's being forced down everyone's throats and I think that's off base. You can plaster someone on screen all you want but that doesn't necessarily compel people to fukk with that artist. Kendrick got an overwhelming amount of love from critics, industry types but most importantly by the fans. Dude's on his way to platinum and the negative opinions about GKMC are far and few in between.

As for as breaking down ratings for particular songs, that's an exercise in futility, imo. "Real" is the only song I'm not a fan of on the album and "Compton" is whatever to me, but I think every other song on there is stellar. Other dudes feel differently. Classics are judged as a whole at the end of the day. I can pick any album considered classic, make a thread about it with numbered ratings for each song and there would be disagreements and even people straight up saying they didn't like certain tracks. Regardless, those albums made their mark already and are cemented in hip hop history as classic.

big props.

 

[CDoty]

Wait.

Hold up.

Dudes saying TM 101 ain't a classic?

We need a board...

fukk IS WRONG WITH THESE nikkaS MAN

 

[MINT]

Nobody is being force-fed anything. You don't have to agree the album is classic. I don't think the album is classic...not because I don't think the quality is up to par, but because I just tend to wait longer than a few months to say shyt like that. This is a forum, cats are gonna stan and cats are gonna hate. So there are gonna be pleas copped/flimsy justifications and irrational gripes. My whole point is that the culture, something a lot bigger than the collection of coli posters, is going to dictate the legacy this album has.

And the whole industry thing: the industry can put an artist out there but they can't force people to feel that artist. A lot of dudes point to B.E.T award show appearances and the like to say he's being forced down everyone's throats and I think that's off base. You can plaster someone on screen all you want but that doesn't necessarily compel people to fukk with that artist. Kendrick got an overwhelming amount of love from critics, industry types but most importantly by the fans. Dude's on his way to platinum and the negative opinions about GKMC are far and few in between.

As for as breaking down ratings for particular songs, that's an exercise in futility, imo. "Real" is the only song I'm not a fan of on the album and "Compton" is whatever to me, but I think every other song on there is stellar. Other dudes feel differently. Classics are judged as a whole at the end of the day. I can pick any album considered classic, make a thread about it with numbered ratings for each song and there would be disagreements and even people straight up saying they didn't like certain tracks. Regardless, those albums made their mark already and are cemented in hip hop history as classic.

5 stars post

 

[GeeEffKay]

Does it even matter anymore, the word classic is thrown around so damn much its lost its meaning somewhere along the past decade.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

just say you aint feeling it, but don't try to knock the acclaim of an album just cause it wasn't your cup of tea. i'm not gonna sit there and say cannibal ox, company flow, digable planets do not have incredible albums or true classics, because they've built that reputation in the canon even though i personally do not love those albums

since im not gonna trim down my opinion to be on some politically correct shyt to appease people in here, i will focus on this part of ya post only

whats the difference between can ox cold vein's CLASSIC and gkmc's CLASSIC, is the statement thats been repeated 45 times thus far in this thread "the press/popularity/sales/ of gkmc means its a classic". cold vein is a classic with minimal all that. half this board never heard the album. so how could it be classic? does it live on by different standards? zero radio play, zero press, zero everything and its still a classic.so why is everyone in this thread using gkmc's popularity as its crutch to classic.

im just seeing a lotta yes men in here. catching a major hipster vibe. heads need to stop bytching about those who really dont feel it and give reasons its one of ya fav albums ever. cause thats what a classic is. so far only 1/10 have even tried dropping an original reason from their heart on why they like it while the otrhe r9/10 just repeating some typical yes man bullshyt

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

since im not gonna trim down my opinion to be on some politically correct shyt to appease people in here, i will focus on this part of ya post only

whats the difference between can ox cold vein's CLASSIC and gkmc's CLASSIC, is the statement thats been repeated 45 times thus far in this thread "the press/popularity/sales/ of gkmc means its a classic". cold vein is a classic with minimal all that. half this board never heard the album. so how could it be classic? does it live on by different standards? zero radio play, zero press, zero everything and its still a classic.so why is everyone in this thread using gkmc's popularity as its crutch to classic.

im just seeing a lotta yes men in here. catching a major hipster vibe. heads need to stop bytching about those who really feel it and give reasons its one of ya fav albums ever. cause thats what a classic is. so far only 1/10 have even tried dropping an original reason from their heart on why they like it while the otrhe r9/10 just repeating some typical yes man bullshyt

to me, gkmc is different. it's a young man in his early 20s exposing his soul, community, everything he sees right and wrong with the world summing up his real life experiences into a well-crafted woven story. songs like backseat freestyle have their place in that they show that youthful childish side of him, while sing about me and maad city show that grown up mature side of him. i don't know how someone cant hear money trees and call that a 5/5 damn near perfect song which i guarantee will be a future west coast summer classic. bytch don't kill my vibe is another great single, something people can lay back and relate to.


i don't really have to go into why i like every song, and for albums I find classic it's almost like the words above are too generic and what I think of the album is of more worthy praise which is why I'm glad professional writers and reviewers have been able to find those words. they're not a crutch for anyone's opinion, they're just able to pinpoint why exactly this album is great.


i'll admit the first 3-4 times i heard it i couldn't focus on the lyrics or the story cause his writing was a little dense. once i bought the cd and listened to it a few times straight through, it really hit me how it just blew a lot of what i've heard the last 10 years out the water. i haven't felt a CD from a youngster like this since maybe below the heavens by blu and exile


i'm moving this paragraph to the end rather than opening in a hostile manner:


at this cyclical i'm right and you're wrong bullshyt. chalk it up to you not feeling the album. if you feel it is not a classic, that's fine and your own opinion is valid, but gkmc is a classic to a lot of people not to mention saying its 'nowhere near close' is just ludicrous. you don't like the album great get it off your chest you sound whiny tho 'everyone's a hipster' 'fukk the critical acclaim' 'forget that people find the music appealing'. 'this isn't classic because its not illmatic or doggystyle' 'i'm not a sheep' 'we're all yes men' 'i don't like his voice cause it's different than past voices i've liked'.



To be honest, I don't really see why we have to justify it's a classic when you're reasons are generally some variation of the vague ones I've listed above. Enlighten me though

 

[ZEB WALTON]

to me, gkmc is different. it's a young man in his early 20s exposing his soul, community, everything he sees right and wrong with the world summing up his real life experiences into a well-crafted woven story. songs like backseat freestyle have their place in that they show that youthful childish side of him, while sing about me and maad city show that grown up mature side of him. i don't know how someone cant hear money trees and call that a 5/5 damn near perfect song which i guarantee will be a future west coast summer classic. bytch don't kill my vibe is another great single, something people can lay back and relate to.


i don't really have to go into why i like every song, and for albums I find classic it's almost like the words above are too generic and what I think of the album is of more worthy praise which is why I'm glad professional writers and reviewers have been able to find those words. they're not a crutch for anyone's opinion, they're just able to pinpoint why exactly this album is special.


i'll admit the first 3-4 times i heard it i couldn't focus on the lyrics or the story cause his writing was a little dense. once i bought the cd and listened to it a few times straight through, it really hit me how it just blew a lot of what i've heard the last 10 years out the water. i haven't felt a CD from a youngster like this since maybe below the heavens by blu and exile


i'm moving this paragraph to the end rather than opening in a hostile manner:


at this cyclical i'm right and you're wrong bullshyt. chalk it up to you not feeling the album. if you feel it is not a classic, that's fine and your own opinion is valid, but gkmc is a classic to a lot of people not to mention saying its 'nowhere near close' is just ludicrous. you don't like the album great get it off your chest you sound like a crying bytch tho 'everyone's a hipster' 'fukk the critical acclaim' 'forget that people find the music appealing'. 'this isn't classic because its not illmatic or doggystyle' 'i'm not a sheep' 'we're all yes men' 'i don't like his voice cause it's different than past voices i've liked'.



To be honest, I don't really see why we have to justify it's a classic when you're reasons are generally some variation of the vague ones I've listed above. Enlighten me though

thanks for joining the thread breh, im glad you can be with us *i will read tomorrow

 

[Still Benefited]

We haven't had a nikka like Kendrick in the mainstream in a while,trying to listen to him like I have most mainstream rappers in the past 15 yrs it was hard for me to understand and to get it.....he more poetic/spoken word with his shyt...if u lookin for charisma and delivery u will miss the poetic value in what he does....I was looking for that prototype commercial rapper we have bcome accustomed too over the years...for me he didn't fit that mold as a west coast nikka.....but it was cuz I was listenin for him to be Snoop,Pac,Short,Cube,NWA,DPG when really he's more Souls Of Mischief,Ras Kass....once I started listenin to em right I appreciated em more....or maybe I just fell for the hype train....but it hasn't happened before so ima go wit my gut....he definitly got growth to do to be complete,and I'm on the fence about "classic"...if I didn't initially like it for real its hard to go back and feel like its classic now even tho I enjoy it more now

 

[Big Mel]

It's better than the following albums that have sniffed classic in the recent media:

The Documentary
Be
Any Kanye album
Any Rick Ross album
Any later Nas or Jay albums
Hell Hath No Fury
Any Carter album