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how did val venis show no side effects after his penis was chopped off by kaientai
Fun Facts/Forgetten Storylines/Things never explained
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I remember trying to explain this to some people online and they never believed me. There was like a segment where the Acoloytes threw someone off a ledge in a castle or something (I think Mideon) it was random as fukk
Breh are you talking about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8v-XKVYCo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iun8Si4A8Ms&feature=relmfu
BantuKnotz99
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I miss wwf/wcw days
HIGHQuality
The Pig Is King
If Vince hates JR so much, why is he still around?
Doesn't want him making an IMPACT elsewhere.
The greatest one ever:
why that old bytch give birth to a hand?
both ideas where Vince Russos's in attempt to create crash tv when anything could happen
like most of russos storylines they ended with no explanation or payoff
I've heard this:
1. It was suppose to be Goldust, but he left
2. They wanted to change it to Tom Green, but Vince didn't know who that was
3. On a random episode of HEAT it was revealed to be Thrasher (I think I saw this)
and wasnt the hand thing after russo left
1. It was suppose to be Goldust, but he left
2. They wanted to change it to Tom Green, but Vince didn't know who that was
3. On a random episode of HEAT it was revealed to be Thrasher (I think I saw this)
and wasnt the hand thing after russo left
Ndiema
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what was the whole concept behind the goldust character?never undrstood nor liked it.
Golayitdown
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what was the whole concept behind the goldust character?never undrstood nor liked it.
He's a film maker from Hollywood. His initial run was so dope to me. He's my number 2 character ever behind Taker. His team with Book was genius too.
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Did the NWA become WCW?
NO.
The NWA is an alliance of promotions. JCP, a member promotion, sold out to Turner, which reincorporated the wrestling company as WCW, which eventually left the NWA. Thus you COULD say 'JCP became WCW', but the NWA did not 'become WCW'. The NWA still exists as an alliance of wrestling promotions (although on a severely reduced scale). WCW as a wrestling promotion does not (see question below re: 'did Vinnie buy WCW?').
Does the NWA title date back to Frank Gotch?
NO.
New information is coming to light, the earliest certainty at this point is that the NWAlliance was in place by 1940 as the in-house 'sanctioning body'/title for Pinky George's promotion in Iowa. In any case, in 1948 he chaired the meeting which brought in other promotions and established what I'll refer to as the 'modern' NWA as we know it (an allance of promotions). Orville Brown, who had held the title for most of those 8 years, was the champion at that time and so was the first champion of the modern NWA. He was injured in an auto accident before a 'unification' match vs. NWAssociation champion Lou Thesz, the actual purpose of which was to fold the Association into the Alliance, and the title was given to Thesz. Any previous 'lineage' is based on those two titles, but any claim that anyone before Brown was the champion of the modern NWA is false.
In fact, the 'world' title didn't start with Gotch either. It started in 1905 when European champion George Hackenschmidt defeated American champion Tom Jenkins. Gotch defeated Hack in 1908 (not 1905 as the false histories claim).
Did the NWA title become the WCW title?
NO.
July 7, 1990 - Sting (Steve Borden) pins "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) to win the NWA World title in the main event of the Turner Home Entertainment PPV called Great American Bash '90 from the Arena in Baltimore, Maryland, USA. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
January 11, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Sting (Steve Borden) at the Meadowlands' Brendan Byrne Arena in East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA. In doing so, Flair captures the NWA World title for the eighth time. Also, it is during this reign that Flair is recognized by World Championship Wrestling (a member of the NWA) as the WCW World heavyweight champion, although the NWA World title and WCW World title remain two separate championships. This makes Flair a nine-time World champion overall. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
March 21, 1991 - Tatsumi Fujinami pins "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) at the Egg Dome in Tokyo, Japan. Flair loses the NWA World title, but retains the WCW crown. This match is televised via tape delay on PPV from Turner Home Entertainment and has involvement from two referees, Bill Alphonso and Masa Hatori. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
May 19, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Tatsumi Fujinami at the Bayfront Center in St. Petersburg, Florida, USA to win the NWA World title for the ninth time, thus making him a 10-time World champion. This bout is the main event on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV called WCW SuperBrawl I. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
July 1, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) is stripped of the WCW World heavyweight championship by WCW, Inc.
September 8, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) is stripped by the National Wrestling Alliance of the NWA World title after signing a contract with Titan Sports Inc. (the parent company of the World Wrestling Federation).
August 12, 1992 - Masahiro Chono pins Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) in the finals of a tournament at Sumo Hall in Tokyo, Japan to capture the NWA World title. The match and tournament are presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
January 4, 1993 - The Great Muta (Keiji Mutoh) pins Masahiro Chono at the Egg Dome in Tokyo, Japan to take the NWA World title. This bout is televised via tape delay on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV called the WCW Japan Supershow. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
February 21, 1993 - Barry Windham pins The Great Muta (Keiji Mutoh) to garner the NWA World title at the Civic Center in Asheville, North Carolina, USA as part of a Turner Home Entertainment PPV known as SuperBrawl III. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
July 18, 1993 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Barry Windham in Biloxi, Mississippi, USA at a Turner Home Entertainment PPV called Beach Blast '93. In doing so, Flair becomes a ten-time NWA World champion and a 13-time World champion overall (having been recognized as WCW World champion in 1991 and having won the WWF World title on two occasions in 1992). The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
1993 - After a legal dispute between the National Wrestling Alliance and member promotion World Championship Wrestling ends in a Charlotte, North Carolina, USA courtroom (with the NWA prevailing over WCW), "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) is stripped of the NWA World title. However, WCW keeps the physical belt which had represented the NWA World title since 1986 and uses it to launch a new brand new title, totally unrelated to the NWA World title, called the WCWI World heavyweight championship.
September 19, 1993 - Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) pins "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) in Houston, Texas, USA in a match originally scheduled as being for Flair's NWA World heavyweight championship. However, the NWA refuses to sanction this match after a legal dispute with the bout's promoter, World Championship Wrestling (at the time an NWA member). The matter is resolved in a Charlotte, North Carolina, USA courtroom prior to the match with the NWA prevailing over WCW. The NWA then strips Flair of its World title and WCW, after dropping out of the NWA, creates a new title out of thin air, billing it as "the World heavyweight championship as recognized by WCW International." The match is televised on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV and is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
March 16, 1994 - Hiroshi Hase pins Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) at the Egg Dome in Tokyo, Japan to win the WCWI World title. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
March 24, 1994 - Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) pins Hiroshi Hase in Kyoto, Japan to capture the WCWI World title for the second time. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
April 17, 1994 - Sting (Steve Borden) pins Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) at the Rosemont Horizon in Rosemont, Illinois, USA to take the WCWI World title. This makes Sting a four-time World champion (having already held the NWA World title once and the WCW World title twice). The match is presented on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV by World Championship Wrestling.
April 24, 1994 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (Richard Blood) at Center Stage in Atlanta, Georgia, USA to win the vacant WCW World title for the third time. This makes him a 15-time World champion, as he had previously held the separate NWA World heavyweight championship ten times and the WWF World heavyweight championship twice. The match is taped for broadcast on WCW Saturday Night, shown on TBS.
May 1, 1994 - Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) pins Sting (Steve Borden) at the Fukuoka Dome in Fukuoka, Japan to seemingly regain the WCWI World title. However, the title is declared vacant after officials review the tape, which shows Rude knocking Sting out with the title belt to get the pin. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
May 22, 1994 - Sting (Steve Borden) pins Vader (Leon White) to win the vacant WCWI World title for the second time, thus making Sting a five-time World champion overall. The match is shown on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV and is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
June 23, 1994 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr), accompanied by Sherri Martel, pins Sting (Steve Borden) in the main event of Clash of Champions in Charleston, South Carolina, USA to retain the WCW World title and win the WCWI World heavyweight championship, thus officially unifying the two titles. This gives Flair 16 World titles, as he had previously held the separate NWA World heavyweight championship ten times and the WWF World heavyweight championship twice. Contrary to popular belief, this match is in no way, shape, or form sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance, nor does it have anything to do with the NWA World title. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling
August 27, 1994 - Shane Douglas (Troy Martin) pins Too Cold Scorpio (Charles Skaggs) in the finals of a one-night tournament at the ECW Arena in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA to win the NWA World title. After the match, Douglas relinquishes the championship, declaring himself the ECW World heavyweight champion. The match and tournament are presented by Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Did the NWA become WCW?
NO.
The NWA is an alliance of promotions. JCP, a member promotion, sold out to Turner, which reincorporated the wrestling company as WCW, which eventually left the NWA. Thus you COULD say 'JCP became WCW', but the NWA did not 'become WCW'. The NWA still exists as an alliance of wrestling promotions (although on a severely reduced scale). WCW as a wrestling promotion does not (see question below re: 'did Vinnie buy WCW?').
Does the NWA title date back to Frank Gotch?
NO.
New information is coming to light, the earliest certainty at this point is that the NWAlliance was in place by 1940 as the in-house 'sanctioning body'/title for Pinky George's promotion in Iowa. In any case, in 1948 he chaired the meeting which brought in other promotions and established what I'll refer to as the 'modern' NWA as we know it (an allance of promotions). Orville Brown, who had held the title for most of those 8 years, was the champion at that time and so was the first champion of the modern NWA. He was injured in an auto accident before a 'unification' match vs. NWAssociation champion Lou Thesz, the actual purpose of which was to fold the Association into the Alliance, and the title was given to Thesz. Any previous 'lineage' is based on those two titles, but any claim that anyone before Brown was the champion of the modern NWA is false.
In fact, the 'world' title didn't start with Gotch either. It started in 1905 when European champion George Hackenschmidt defeated American champion Tom Jenkins. Gotch defeated Hack in 1908 (not 1905 as the false histories claim).
Did the NWA title become the WCW title?
NO.
July 7, 1990 - Sting (Steve Borden) pins "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) to win the NWA World title in the main event of the Turner Home Entertainment PPV called Great American Bash '90 from the Arena in Baltimore, Maryland, USA. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
January 11, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Sting (Steve Borden) at the Meadowlands' Brendan Byrne Arena in East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA. In doing so, Flair captures the NWA World title for the eighth time. Also, it is during this reign that Flair is recognized by World Championship Wrestling (a member of the NWA) as the WCW World heavyweight champion, although the NWA World title and WCW World title remain two separate championships. This makes Flair a nine-time World champion overall. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
March 21, 1991 - Tatsumi Fujinami pins "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) at the Egg Dome in Tokyo, Japan. Flair loses the NWA World title, but retains the WCW crown. This match is televised via tape delay on PPV from Turner Home Entertainment and has involvement from two referees, Bill Alphonso and Masa Hatori. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
May 19, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Tatsumi Fujinami at the Bayfront Center in St. Petersburg, Florida, USA to win the NWA World title for the ninth time, thus making him a 10-time World champion. This bout is the main event on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV called WCW SuperBrawl I. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
July 1, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) is stripped of the WCW World heavyweight championship by WCW, Inc.
September 8, 1991 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) is stripped by the National Wrestling Alliance of the NWA World title after signing a contract with Titan Sports Inc. (the parent company of the World Wrestling Federation).
August 12, 1992 - Masahiro Chono pins Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) in the finals of a tournament at Sumo Hall in Tokyo, Japan to capture the NWA World title. The match and tournament are presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
January 4, 1993 - The Great Muta (Keiji Mutoh) pins Masahiro Chono at the Egg Dome in Tokyo, Japan to take the NWA World title. This bout is televised via tape delay on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV called the WCW Japan Supershow. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
February 21, 1993 - Barry Windham pins The Great Muta (Keiji Mutoh) to garner the NWA World title at the Civic Center in Asheville, North Carolina, USA as part of a Turner Home Entertainment PPV known as SuperBrawl III. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
July 18, 1993 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Barry Windham in Biloxi, Mississippi, USA at a Turner Home Entertainment PPV called Beach Blast '93. In doing so, Flair becomes a ten-time NWA World champion and a 13-time World champion overall (having been recognized as WCW World champion in 1991 and having won the WWF World title on two occasions in 1992). The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
1993 - After a legal dispute between the National Wrestling Alliance and member promotion World Championship Wrestling ends in a Charlotte, North Carolina, USA courtroom (with the NWA prevailing over WCW), "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) is stripped of the NWA World title. However, WCW keeps the physical belt which had represented the NWA World title since 1986 and uses it to launch a new brand new title, totally unrelated to the NWA World title, called the WCWI World heavyweight championship.
September 19, 1993 - Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) pins "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) in Houston, Texas, USA in a match originally scheduled as being for Flair's NWA World heavyweight championship. However, the NWA refuses to sanction this match after a legal dispute with the bout's promoter, World Championship Wrestling (at the time an NWA member). The matter is resolved in a Charlotte, North Carolina, USA courtroom prior to the match with the NWA prevailing over WCW. The NWA then strips Flair of its World title and WCW, after dropping out of the NWA, creates a new title out of thin air, billing it as "the World heavyweight championship as recognized by WCW International." The match is televised on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV and is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
March 16, 1994 - Hiroshi Hase pins Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) at the Egg Dome in Tokyo, Japan to win the WCWI World title. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
March 24, 1994 - Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) pins Hiroshi Hase in Kyoto, Japan to capture the WCWI World title for the second time. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
April 17, 1994 - Sting (Steve Borden) pins Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) at the Rosemont Horizon in Rosemont, Illinois, USA to take the WCWI World title. This makes Sting a four-time World champion (having already held the NWA World title once and the WCW World title twice). The match is presented on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV by World Championship Wrestling.
April 24, 1994 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr) pins Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (Richard Blood) at Center Stage in Atlanta, Georgia, USA to win the vacant WCW World title for the third time. This makes him a 15-time World champion, as he had previously held the separate NWA World heavyweight championship ten times and the WWF World heavyweight championship twice. The match is taped for broadcast on WCW Saturday Night, shown on TBS.
May 1, 1994 - Ravishing Rick Rude (Richard Rood) pins Sting (Steve Borden) at the Fukuoka Dome in Fukuoka, Japan to seemingly regain the WCWI World title. However, the title is declared vacant after officials review the tape, which shows Rude knocking Sting out with the title belt to get the pin. The match is presented by New Japan Pro Wrestling.
May 22, 1994 - Sting (Steve Borden) pins Vader (Leon White) to win the vacant WCWI World title for the second time, thus making Sting a five-time World champion overall. The match is shown on a Turner Home Entertainment PPV and is presented by World Championship Wrestling.
June 23, 1994 - "Nature Boy" Ric Flair (Richard Morgan Fliehr), accompanied by Sherri Martel, pins Sting (Steve Borden) in the main event of Clash of Champions in Charleston, South Carolina, USA to retain the WCW World title and win the WCWI World heavyweight championship, thus officially unifying the two titles. This gives Flair 16 World titles, as he had previously held the separate NWA World heavyweight championship ten times and the WWF World heavyweight championship twice. Contrary to popular belief, this match is in no way, shape, or form sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance, nor does it have anything to do with the NWA World title. The match is presented by World Championship Wrestling
August 27, 1994 - Shane Douglas (Troy Martin) pins Too Cold Scorpio (Charles Skaggs) in the finals of a one-night tournament at the ECW Arena in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA to win the NWA World title. After the match, Douglas relinquishes the championship, declaring himself the ECW World heavyweight champion. The match and tournament are presented by Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Was David von Erich promised the NWA title?
This will remain a matter for debate, but the weight of evidence is that David was being groomed and prepared for a title run, but that 'promised' is overstating the case.
Which titles did the NWA actually sanction?
Only the world heavyweight title, the world jr. heavyweight title, the world light heavyweight title (in Mexico), and for a brief period ('61-'62 when it was being used to elevate Buddy Rogers in preparation for his world title reign) the US heavyweight title. These were the only ones that were actually defended in more than one promotion. The other so-called 'NWA' titles (the US the rest of the time, the world and US tag titles) were actually local titles in the member promotions, which is why there were many of each and why you will see designations like " 'NWA' US Title (Capitol version)".
What was the connection between the NWA and TNA?
The NWA gave TNA an exclusive license to the NWA World singles and tag titles, in spite of the fact that TNA has never joined the NWA. Allegedly the license was for a term of 10 years, at the termination of which TNA would have the option to purchase full rights to the titles outright. In further fact, despite speculation to the contrary, TNA did NOT PAY ONE CENT UP FRONT, and for that matter would not HAVE to come up with any cash UNTIL THE TEN YEARS WERE UP. The source for this information is unimpeachable. The arrangement was severed in 2007 without one red cent having ever been paid to the NWA. Yeah, I know. Way to preserve the legacy and make money, NWA. Sam Muchnick would be so proud. ______________________________________________________________________________
THE WWhowevermanyWsEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWhateverletteritisthisweek
Let's get this out of the way first---what about 'Vince Sr.' and 'Vince Jr.'?
Technically there are no such people, as the father (Vince) was Vincent James McMahon and the son (Vinnie) is Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
Okay, so is Vince turning over in his grave over what Vinnie has done?
Absolutely NOT. He backed him every step of the way.
Did the original Ultimate Warrior die?
No, more's the pity, Jim Hellwig is the only one who ever played the persona.
Is it true that Andre the Giant had never been defeated or bodyslammed before Hogan did it at WM?
Absolutely not. In fact among those who did BOTH are Harley Race and Ronnie Garvin.
Did WW---uh, did Vinnie buy WCW?
Techincally no. Turner merged with Time-Warner, the resulting merged company then merged with AOL to create AOL/Time-Warner, who discontinued the wrestling operation. Vinnie bought certain assets, including the trademark, but he did not buy the company itself, which reverted to the legal name 'Universal Wrestling Corp.' and still exists as a paper entity within AOL/T-W.
This will remain a matter for debate, but the weight of evidence is that David was being groomed and prepared for a title run, but that 'promised' is overstating the case.
Which titles did the NWA actually sanction?
Only the world heavyweight title, the world jr. heavyweight title, the world light heavyweight title (in Mexico), and for a brief period ('61-'62 when it was being used to elevate Buddy Rogers in preparation for his world title reign) the US heavyweight title. These were the only ones that were actually defended in more than one promotion. The other so-called 'NWA' titles (the US the rest of the time, the world and US tag titles) were actually local titles in the member promotions, which is why there were many of each and why you will see designations like " 'NWA' US Title (Capitol version)".
What was the connection between the NWA and TNA?
The NWA gave TNA an exclusive license to the NWA World singles and tag titles, in spite of the fact that TNA has never joined the NWA. Allegedly the license was for a term of 10 years, at the termination of which TNA would have the option to purchase full rights to the titles outright. In further fact, despite speculation to the contrary, TNA did NOT PAY ONE CENT UP FRONT, and for that matter would not HAVE to come up with any cash UNTIL THE TEN YEARS WERE UP. The source for this information is unimpeachable. The arrangement was severed in 2007 without one red cent having ever been paid to the NWA. Yeah, I know. Way to preserve the legacy and make money, NWA. Sam Muchnick would be so proud. ______________________________________________________________________________
THE WWhowevermanyWsEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWhateverletteritisthisweek
Let's get this out of the way first---what about 'Vince Sr.' and 'Vince Jr.'?
Technically there are no such people, as the father (Vince) was Vincent James McMahon and the son (Vinnie) is Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
Okay, so is Vince turning over in his grave over what Vinnie has done?
Absolutely NOT. He backed him every step of the way.
Did the original Ultimate Warrior die?
No, more's the pity, Jim Hellwig is the only one who ever played the persona.
Is it true that Andre the Giant had never been defeated or bodyslammed before Hogan did it at WM?
Absolutely not. In fact among those who did BOTH are Harley Race and Ronnie Garvin.
Did WW---uh, did Vinnie buy WCW?
Techincally no. Turner merged with Time-Warner, the resulting merged company then merged with AOL to create AOL/Time-Warner, who discontinued the wrestling operation. Vinnie bought certain assets, including the trademark, but he did not buy the company itself, which reverted to the legal name 'Universal Wrestling Corp.' and still exists as a paper entity within AOL/T-W.
King Crimson
Member of a very exclusive gang
That's what I always wanted to know. What the hell was the bigger picture that Wade and Nexus were always going on about. And why'd they cost Undertaker that match that one time?
I think they were talking out of their ass to build interest in the group and were going to worry about the payoff later. If they remembered/cared about someone pulling the strings, it probably would've led to them being run by a McMahon.
Wade should come back and start to talk shyt about how their benefactor sat back and did nothing while the group floundered, splintered and fell apart.
