Funk Flex challenges old NY rappers to step their music game up: UPDATE: Rae and Ghost gets called out
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WSG has a grating voice to many and it’s a slow ugly beat with very conversational rapping no melody.
How about the old head bias from the return of the boom bap types tho
As a posse cut this is a much better candidate to get played on radio way more energy to move people that Griselda song is something you mean mug and bop your head to
This shyt will actually make you move and I’d argue they were spitting harder than Griselda did and the content is no different. One is neo boom bap and the other drill.
Griselda have well crafted bars, are in pocket with the beat, and are more articulate and clear (even Conway). Where is the "melody" in these little nikkas illegibly grunting through those super basic bars, struggling to stay on beat?
Moving? WHen they did the song at the show I saw them at, people weren't flying around, but they moved. They went crazy. You could probably hear "TELL VIRGIL WITE BRICK ON MY BRIIIICK" down the street. They're doing better than most if not all these Drill nikkas, radio or not. They're doing something right.
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The bars in Dr. Birds are nothing special, dated generic goon talk, a lot of basic bars, Benny had the best verse. It’s a slow ass song Flex ain’t playing that shyt.
I can understand them just fine and they are rapping to a beat with a high BPM about the same shyt as Griselda while bringing a lot more energy. It may not be melodic but there’s a certain aggression that evokes emotion in the listener them nikkas just talking shyt sounds boring.
Griselda’s bars are more polished because they are 20 years older and their delivery and approach to rapping is more akin to the shyt you grew up on. Benny and WSG be on some Jay and Ghostfsce shyt. These kids is the sons of G Herbo and Meek Mill.
Even on some dark shyt this is better than a lot of Griselda shyt both sonically and visually.
This is what the new Gen is on this is the modern hip hop culture of the city they rapping about the same shyt as Griselda but y’all favor one over the other.
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Low-key dig at Griselda and Buffalo 🫢
“This how NYC sounds”
“This how NYC sounds”
Hmmm usually don’t agree with flex …. But
The bars in Dr. Birds are nothing special, dated generic goon talk, a lot of basic bars, Benny had the best verse. It’s a slow ass song Flex ain’t playing that shyt.
I can understand them just fine and they are rapping to a beat with a high BPM about the same shyt as Griselda while bringing a lot more energy. It may not be melodic but there’s a certain aggression that evokes emotion in the listener them nikkas just talking shyt sounds boring.
Griselda’s bars are more polished because they are 20 years older and their delivery and approach to rapping is more akin to the shyt you grew up on. These kids is the sons of G Herbo and Meek Mill. Benny trying to be ‘97 Hov and WSG trying to be ‘00 Ghostface.
Even on some dark shyt this is better than a lot of Griselda shyt both sonically and visually.
This is what the new Gen is on this is the modern hip hop culture of the city they rapping about the same shyt as Griselda but y’all favor one over the other.
Nas recorded Illmatic at 20, these nikkas just aren't good at rapping. If you like it, cool, but stop lying.
You sound like those sensitive hit dog hollering South nikkas that started crying when Nas put out Hip-Hop Is Dead, because they know they're trash. If being good at rapping isn't what it is anymore, stand on it. We're gonna call it out as trash, pay it no mind and keep doing your thing.
Also, y'all nikkas always crying about "melody", but WSGs sing songy style is more melodic than half the shyt you champion. Get your story straight.
ISO
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Nas came of age in a different time and had different influences that formulated his rap style it’s apples to oranges. And this is a radio discussion Nas wasn’t a big radio artist and Nas was an outlier at his age and in general period. It will never be another Nas.Nas recorded Illmatic at 20, these nikkas just aren't good at rapping. If you like it, cool, but stop lying.
Their rapping is fine dude tf they gotta be Nas for
Only NY son I don’t see nikkas saying Playboi Carti don’t sound like Andre 3000
ISO
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Griselda capitalized off a niche.
U are talking about Griselda fans at a show that packed at most what 500 people.
Griselda has not reached the heights of Pop Smoke, Fivi, Sleepy Hallow. Artists that made Billboard and got play on radio. They do their thing selling merch, vinyls, they get put in strong marketing positions with endorsements and deals and whatnot but their music itself doesn’t do views like that.
A lot of these young kids in the Bronx have more views on their video than any Griselda video and some are unsigned or just recently signed.
I bring up Nas because you used that weak "their bars should be better, they're twice their age" excuse. LL, Rakim, Special Ed, Ras Kass, all sorts of MCs were nice as fukk at that age or earlier. AGAIN, just admit they're not good at rapping and stand on it. These nikkas have no pride in the craft. Just like that goofy ass "I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler" silliness. Y'all like nikkas grunting elementary bars snitching on themselves bragging about crimes in realtimeNas came of age in a different time and had different influences that formulated his rap style it’s apples to oranges. And this is a radio discussion Nas wasn’t a big radio artist and Nas was an outlier at his age and in general period. It will never be another Nas.
Their rapping is fine dude tf they gotta be Nas for
Only NY son I don’t see nikkas saying Playboi Carti don’t sound like Andre 3000
. Stand on it.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Their bars are better because they have different influences and came up in a different time.I bring up Nas because you used that weak "their bars should be better, they're twice their age" excuse. LL, Rakim, Special Ed, Ras Kass, all sorts of MCs were nice as fukk at that age or earlier. AGAIN, just admit they're not good at rapping and stand on it. These nikkas have no pride in the craft. Just like that goofy ass "I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler" silliness. Y'all like nikkas grunting elementary bars snitching on themselves bragging about crimes in realtime
These drill kids are not out here to out bar you or spit the most clever shyt. They are trying to be as aggressive and as direct as possible and with the beats they’re rapping over that overly wordy shyt isn’t a good idea anyway. These kids didn’t grow up listening to Kool G Rap and Rakim like Nas. They came up listening to Meek Mill and G Herbo yelling.
Listen man you can judge it all you want. Say its trash. It’s not for you. For an older fellow it’s going to be hard to understand or relate to these kids new NY slang even their accents are different from the old guard.
I don’t like all of the shyt obviously it’s negative but there’s records that are undeniable.
These kids have their own unique organic authentic movement. To me it’s the most hip hop shyt out. The truest to what nikkas established in the Bronx in the 70’s.
I saw fresh graffiti with bubble letters in a DThang drill video in 2022, nikkas is really b-boying (getting sturdy), these outdoor music videos look like the new park jams, the rapping may not be what you deem up to par but its the only place I’m seeing posse cuts with 3, 4, 5 rappers nobody else is doing that and they are rapping not singing like a lot of the game today, and these kids are really sampling music and flipping a variety of genres into drill hip hop from dancehall, to R&B, to Jersey club so refreshing from some minimalist DaBaby type trap beat shyt. That’s HIP HOP.
Hip hop is youth music. This is they shyt. The city is rocking with this, this the new boom bap. It’s 2022 it’s their time.
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No, their bars are better because they give a shyt. There were elementary, trash rappers in every era. The real MCs had pride in the craft and TRIED TO BE BETTER so they were better. For the 5th time, just stand on it.Their bars are better because they have different influences and came up in a different time.
These drill kids are not out here to out bar you or spit the most clever shyt. They are trying to be as aggressive and as direct as possible and with the beats they’re rapping over that overly wordy shyt isn’t a good idea anyway. These kids didn’t grow up listening to Kool G Rap and Rakim like Nas. They came up listening to Meek Mill and G Herbo yelling.
Listen man you can judge it all you want. Say its trash. It’s not for you. For an older fellow it’s going to be hard to understand or relate to these kids new NY slang even their accents are different from the old guard.
I don’t like all of the shyt obviously it’s negative but there’s records that are undeniable.
These kids have their own unique organic authentic movement. To me it’s the most hip hop shyt out. The truest to what nikkas established in the Bronx in the 70’s.
I saw fresh graffiti with bubble letters in a DThang drill video in 2022, nikkas is really b-boying (getting sturdy), the rapping may not be what you deem up to par but its the only place I’m seeing posse cuts with 3, 4, 5 rappers nobody else is doing that and they are rapping not singing like a lot of the game today, and these kids are really sampling music and flipping a variety of genres into drill hip hop from dancehall, to R&B, to Jersey club so refreshing from some minimalist DaBaby type trap beat shyt.
Hip hop is youth music. This is they shyt. The city is rocking with this, this the new boom bap. It’s 2022 it’s their time.
I already conceded I think dancing coming back is cool, but this shyt isn't Hip-Hop. The principles of Hip-Hop are
- Peace
- Love
- Unity
- Safely Having Fun
There is plenty of graffiti and posse cuts and traditional Hip-Hop oriented stuff, it's just not what's pushed to the masses.
Hip-Hop is "youth music" because the labels can control young, stupid, desperate nikkas with no regard for history or who came before them. The culture itself is barely 50. Hip-Hop is aging, and there's nothing wrong with that. The only genre where legends aren't properly revered. It's happening and no one can stop it. All the real stars with lasting power are mid 30s at least. None of these nikkas can even prove they'll be around in 5 years, let alone 20. But, yet again, if you like it, cool. Just keep it real, and stop pretending it's something it isn't.
EDIT: I listened to the stuff you posted in the interest of fairness. These nikkas are (badly) punching in all over the place. They can't even spit that simple ass shyt SMH. And these are the young nikkas with all the energy. Zero craftsmanship.
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WSG has a grating voice to many and it’s a slow ugly beat with very conversational rapping no melody.
How about the old head bias from the return of the boom bap types tho
As a posse cut this is a much better candidate to get played on radio way more energy to move people that Griselda song is something you mean mug and bop your head to
This shyt will actually make you move and I’d argue they were spitting harder than Griselda did and the content is no different. One is neo boom bap and the other drill.
nikka this Kay Flock shyt is fire
So is dmx hip hop?
