Definitely. There would have been parts that were different. Without question the combat, but the majority of the world already subsists in 3rd person. The just put you in a 1st person view. The game is completely doable in 3rd person.
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Khalil's_Black_Excellence
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Could've easily just made the conversations n shyt first person and designed the action in third person with fps toggle for guns.
This is also very true. Yes, when they build out a game and they mean it to be in a particular perspective, that game is better in that perspective. But take something like Skyrim. You can play in 3rd person mode but devs clearly weren't concerned about it. But when you have modders that go in and address the movement, the game plays great that way. So it can't be a matter of just flipping a switch, but it CAN be done to where if the movement is addressed that the game can be true to the original overall vision.
Outdoors would be more or less the same. But indoors would have to be totally different. Enemy A.I would have to be totally different.
The way you interact with NPCs would have to be total different.
To me that’s the stuff that defines the game. Otherwise would just be another open world GTA clone
In my view the feel of the city wouldn't change. The way cars move, the way people interact, etc would stay the same. Indoors, everyone that you see would still move and feel the same. But yeah enemies would have to be modified, but I don't feel they would need to be completely overhauled. At least not as I understand it with my limited knowledge of game development. I also think the most important part is the spirit of the game. And I think that all can be maintained. Games have been in 3rd person for generations and we know CDPR can tell a great story in 3rd person. So I think the game would be just as good if not better with the correct modifications.Outdoors would be more or less the same. But indoors would have to be totally different. Enemy A.I would have to be totally different.
The way you interact with NPCs would have to be total different.
To me that’s the stuff that defines the game. Otherwise would just be another open world GTA clone
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
I don’t really have a strong opinion on 3rd vs1st anymore. I originally had to warm up to the idea but cdpr went above and beyond to make first person view feel really immersive and cinematic
A lot of other games make you feel like you’re just a floating camera and two hands
A lot of other games make you feel like you’re just a floating camera and two hands
Think about how flat and basic the architecture is in a game like GTA.
You can’t have the same level of detail in a 3rd person game because you have to mange the camera.
Interiors have to be basic squares and corridors so the camera doesn’t get stuck.
The level of details within the environments would be much less cause you can’t even really see all that stuff from a 3rd person perspective.
Look how differently these two scenes play out.
Cyberpunk is the much more detailed and immersive experience. Even tho you can go 1st person in gta. The level of detail and immersion just isn’t there because the game wasn’t built that way.
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Look how much less detailed the interactions and indoor environments are in GTA.
There’s benefits to either perspective. I wouldn’t say GTA should be 1st person and i wouldn’t say Cyberpunk should be 3rd.
I think it’s great they both play to their own strengths and perspective.
Bruh I'm not looking at all that nonsense. Man it's not that deep. I disagree with you. Accept it. Like you are gonna just MAKE me believe what you believe. I think the game would be way better in 3rd person. End of story.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
He stay posting random YouTube opinion videos like we finna sit here and watch them so we can come back here and argue with him more
It’s not a belief it’s technical fact.
Your belief is that you prefer 3rd person games. Thats cool, no argument from me there.
The technical fact is that 1st and 3rd person games have to be built very differently and cyberpunk would not be the same game if they made it 3rd person.
There’s no opinion in those videos.
I don’t post other peoples opinions. That’s what you do.
Thats just straight up gameplay with me explaining why i posted them.
As always dudes run away from facts on here to preserve your own feelings.
Not my fault i usually have real life facts, video, evidence to back up my claims
Me believing that the game would be better in 3rd person is a belief nikka. No they couldn't simply take the game as is and just flip a switch and make it 3rd person. I wasn't arguing that they could. They CLEARLY would have to make changes to the game. If you think CDPR of all people couldn't make an immersive 3rd person CP game you are crazy.
I just gave you technical reasons and video evidence as to why a lot of things that define the game could not be done in third person.
You decided to say fukk all that “my opinion trumps technical reality”
it’s not about CDPR it’s the technology behind building a game.
The things that define the game are specific to a 1st person game.
You gave technical reasons? Interiors have to be basic squares and corridors? As you see it that's the technical reason that CP can't be as immersive in 3rd person? Cameras getting stuck is a design challenge. Not a real technical hurdle. CDPR can design complex interiors. They're magnificent at it actually. The Wild Hunt is ridiculously detailed and immersive. Plenty of interactivity for the whole family. I'm not sure what else you want other than something to make your case for you. GTA having simpler interiors is a design choice, not a universal law of 3rd person gaming.
Detail is detail, regardless of perspective. Textures....models and world geometry are rendered whether the camera is 5 feet from the floor in 1st person or 10 feet back and over the shoulder in 3rd. A first person perspective makes the player look at things closely, which is why first person games need more detail on the few things directly in front of the player. With a 3rd person view you are seeing overall more detail at once. So if detail itself is what equals immersion, the a 3rd person CP game hits the mark. You are conflating perspective with the game's budget and art direction. The reason for the immersion is because CDPR spent YEARS building a very detailed city. Not because of the perspective.
I've already admitted that changes to the game are necessary. But the argument is whether the core could be maintained, and I just don't see how anyone could argue that it couldn't be. AI changes would be needed for things like cover-peeking and player visibility, but the fundamental logic (enemy paths, combat behavior) remains mostly unchanged. The Witcher 3, I think most gamers agree, is the better game of the two. To suggest that CDPR somehow couldn't replicate that in 3rd person sci fi setting while maintaining the feel and spirit of Cyberpunk is asinine to me. Nothing you "argue" can make me see it differently.
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