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Yea and i posted a video comparison for you but you chose not to watch it.
It’s not a technical hurdle it’s physics.
If the camera has to float behind the characters head, then the room has to be built for that.
If you can see around corners, then the room and enemy A.I. has to be built for that.
If the camera is at eye level(1st person) with the detail in the room then that detail has to be built to make sense from that perspective.
It’s not about dev skill. These are the choices every dev has to make based on the perspective of their game.
Look how basic this interior is, compared to anything in cyberpunk.
Looks more like GTA than Cyberpunk
Different perspective, different design choices.
This is not true.
In a 3rd person game there’s less density in detail cause you never look at anything close up, and the detail has to fill a zoomed out perspective.
The character models and detail within the levels is night and day between Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 cause the perspective is different.
The average NPC in cyberpunk has lots more detail than Geralt cause you can look them directly in the face.
Geralts detail has to be spread out access his entire body, not just his face, same with other characters.
So the things that work in a 3rd person game don’t work in 1st person and vice versa.
are you even arguing then 
Based on your last point, the core could not be maintained.
Cyberpunk excels at the things a 3rd person game specifically can’t do.
If you remove those things it’s a totally different game with the same story.
I never argued differently. I don't even understand why this is a matter of concern.
Look how basic this interior is, compared to anything in cyberpunk.
Looks more like GTA than Cyberpunk
Different perspective, different design choices.
Yes 2 games that began development in 2008 vs one that began development in the mid 2010s. Given that those environments are incredibly detailed. Look at games like RDR2 and Control, or even Hitman. Incredibly detailed interior environments.
Even in a first-person game, the environment.....vehicles.......character's visible body parts (hands, legs in mirrors/cutscenes) still need high detail. The "density" of a hallway in Cyberpunk 2077 is detailed not because of the camera but because of the sheer art budget and vision. In modern 3rd person games like The Witcher 3, and especially Red Dead Redemption 2 and The Last of Us Part II, the camera aggressively zooms in during dialogue, cutscenes, and cinematics. So, the faces, hands, and upper bodies of all key characters have to be rendered in extreme detail most times and often exceeding what is needed for a simple wide shot.
Ask yourself that.
In very plain English, define what you FEEL the core is? Because in my view that's what this boils down to. Could CDPR build a 3rd person CP game that maintains the "core" of what CP is. Because right now I just don't understand how any could feel that they couldn't accomplish it.
Because the things that define Cyberpunk as a game, are built around that.
Change that and you have a very different game.
Basic interior. Very little detail compared to cyberpunk,
Very basic architecture compared to cyberpunk.
No, it’s the perspective.
Zoomed out you need more objects.
Zoomed in you need more detail in the objects.
Those are cutscenes, and an inherent immersion breaker,
The character models in cutscenes are very different than the character models in gameplay, you can literally see the moment the character models change.
In cyberpunk they don’t change. It’s all “gameplay” as you are never removed from control of the camera. You can view and zoom in on any aspect during the story bits which means the character models have to be lots more detailed.
The core of cyberpunk is detail and immersion.
Can’t think of any 3rd person game that can match what Cyberpunk achieved.
It’s a GOAT game and probably top 1 this gen specifically due to what they were able to do with the immersion and level of detail they achieved in the game.
This is the crux of it for me. This is where we disagree. No amount of videos you post will make me see it otherwise. I'll leave it at that.
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Cyberpunk on PC is fukking amazing
The supposed GTA killer 
"Game of the generation" you mean LAST generation??? 
I know this game was so historically trash on release that it's stans want to pretend that fumble of a launch never happened... but this game came out on PS4/XB1 originally, it is not a current gen game.
That Keanu expansion they released years after the fact to try and salvage shyt is just that... an expansion, not a new/separate game.
I know this game was so historically trash on release that it's stans want to pretend that fumble of a launch never happened... but this game came out on PS4/XB1 originally, it is not a current gen game.That Keanu expansion they released years after the fact to try and salvage shyt is just that... an expansion, not a new/separate game.
it would not have.
The level of emerson and detail would have been way less.
Imagine the smoke filled car rides from outside the car.
Or the level of detail in the buildings/envirment.
Talking to Pan Am in 3rd person
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This game was getting laughed and mocked 5 years ago and now it's game of the generation?
I have it on console and PC. It's an amazing experience even on my ROG ally. Funny thing is I got the game for free because I requested a refund when it first released. They gave me the refund and never asked for the game back. So I purchased the game on PC purely out of respect......and because I wanted to play it on PC.
