Gaming Crash incoming, or has it already began?

[MeachTheMonster]

If anything suddenly crashes, folks are going to be looking for a reason.

It has not been sudden.

Some of you have been and seemingly still are in denial.

There is a reason gaming is at where it's at. Something has to be the cause, shyt isn't random.

Times change, technology, changes, markets change. It’s how the world works

Are you at the point where you just want to blame consumers and workers?

I don’t need a villain.

But your cult does.

You have 60+ posts in this topic (most playing defense), but according to you no one is at fault for the gaming industry being what it is
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make it make sense.

Defense of what?

When i ask you goofies to explain precisely how it’s microsoft’s fault you run away.

I’ve spent all these posts trying to make sense of your claims.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Sony stans so emotional that a thread about the state of the industry immediately turned to copping pleas for Xbox.

In turn it went to blaming Xbox for being a major reason the industry is struggling



In reality it's a myriad of things from all sides including macro economics. But a lot has to do with consumer behavior and expectations on the console side now also.

 

[The Mad Titan]

 

[MeachTheMonster]

“ITS MICROSOFT FAULT FOR INVESTING IN A.I.”

If they didn’t buy Activision this dude would have a job…..

 

[MeachTheMonster]

And I quote: "This isn’t true. I just posted to you sony investing billions of dollars into A.i. and using it in all facets of their gaming business."
Please specify: 1) is this, or is this not considered an argument? 2) Is this true or isnt it? 3) Do you know what words mean?

It’s not an “argument” it’s a fact

It is true.

Me thinks it’s you with the word problems here

 

[gurf]

It has not been sudden.

Some of you have been and seemingly still are in denial.

Times change, technology, changes, markets change. It’s how the world works

I don’t need a villain.

But your cult does.




Defense of what?

When i ask you goofies to explain precisely how it’s microsoft’s fault you run away.

I’ve spent all these posts trying to make sense of your claims.

You and @The Mad Titan have a habit of pointing out all of the effects, but neglect to delve into the cause.

Yes, consumer spending changed, why's that?

Expectations changed, why?

Surface level observations, but claiming your Nostradamus.

At no point are we saying this is 100% M$ fault.

They are simply part of it, along with Sony, Nintendo, Streaming Services, Yearly Releases, etc.

No idea why it's hard for you to admit that.

Instead you sit here for 3 pages and attempt to equate what Sony is doing with AI to M$ and we all know M$ is one of the top 3 (if not first) investors into AI.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You and @The Mad Titan have a habit of pointing out all of the effects, but neglect to delve into the cause.

Yes, consumer spending changed, why's that?

Lots more games to play. The most popular games are “forever” titles that gamers sink hours into. There’s more completion for gamers attention. I.E. Social media, mobile games, twitch, handhelds, etc.

Game prices have not kept up with inflation all while game development costs have exploded exponentially.

Expectations changed, why?

Expectations didn’t really change. Not sure where you got that from.

Surface level observations, but claiming your Nostradamus.

I just live in reality breh

At no point are we saying this is 100% M$ fault.

They are simply part of it, along with Sony, Nintendo, Streaming Services, Yearly Releases, etc.

No idea why it's hard for you to admit that.

I know.

Cult needs a villain

Instead you sit here for 3 pages and attempt to equate what Sony is doing with AI to M$ and we all know M$ is one of the top 3 (if not first) investors into AI.

Seems all companies are investing big in A.I.

What is microsoft doing that sony is not? and please explain how those investments have created the current difficult conditions in the gaming market?

 

[el_oh_el]

It’s not an “argument” it’s a fact

It is true.

Me thinks it’s you with the word problems here

I’ll accept you’re a retard troll and keep it pushing

 

[el_oh_el]

Game prices didn’t keep up with inflation
Yep, a fullll retard on display here folks.

 

[gurf]

Lots more games to play. The most popular games are “forever” titles that gamers sink hours into. There’s more completion for gamers attention. I.E. Social media, mobile games, twitch, handhelds, etc.

Game prices have not kept up with inflation all while game development costs have exploded exponentially.

Expectations didn’t really change. Not sure where you got that from.

I just live in reality breh

I know.

Cult needs a villain

Seems all companies are investing big in A.I.

What is microsoft doing that sony is not? and please explain how those investments have created the current difficult conditions in the gaming market?

M$ heavily backed OpenAI, which directly caused this run on RAM and other components. Some companies are investing more than others, it's not the same across the board.

Expectations of games has 100% changed. You cannot just release games in certain genres due to the fact we as the consumer expect all these games to be constantly updated and to have value added after the purchase (new maps, balancing, etc).

Lots of folks do not buy games no matter how good cause they expect a sale or for them to be added to streaming services. See movies/music.

There have always been a bunch of games to play. All they way back to Atari. That hasn't changed. Maybe when it comes to cost to make said games, but gamers have always had a bunch of games to play.

In either case, if you think those are the only reasons gaming is at where it's at. We'll agree to disagree. There's more to it.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

M$ heavily backed OpenAI, which directly caused this run on RAM and other components.

Ram yes, other components no.

Now explain how high ram costs are making game software struggle to profit?

Some companies are investing more than others, it's not the same across the board.

This is like saying one guy is “worse” cause his gun holds more bullets.

They are all shooting

Expectations of games has 100% changed. You cannot just release games in certain genres due to the fact we as the consumer expect all these games to be constantly updated and to have value added after the purchase (new maps, balancing, etc).

Gamers don’t “expect” single player games to evolve over time.

Expectations for GAAS are the same as they’ve always been.

You think this is cause microsoft invested into A.I.???

Lots of folks do not buy games no matter how good cause they expect a sale or for them to be added to streaming services. See movies/music.

Yes gamers are very adverse to price increases.

Game software is the cheapest it’s ever been, while the cost to make games is the highest it’s ever been.

I’m trying to figure out how that’s Microsoft’s fault??

There have always been a bunch of games to play. All they way back to Atari. That hasn't changed. Maybe when it comes to cost to make said games, but gamers have always had a bunch of games to play.

No.

In either case, if you think those are the only reasons gaming is at where it's at. We'll agree to disagree. There's more to it.

So explain.

 

[Fatboi1]

At some point yall gotta realize arguing with Meach is a futile exercise. He’s never going to concede or argue honestly. They just are here to waste your time.

 

[gurf]

Ram yes, other components no.

Now explain how high ram costs are making game software struggle to profit?


This is like saying one guy is “worse” cause his gun holds more bullets.

They are all shooting

Gamers don’t “expect” single player games to evolve over time.

Expectations for GAAS are the same as they’ve always been.

You think this is cause microsoft invested into A.I.???


Yes gamers are very adverse to price increases.

Game software is the cheapest it’s ever been, while the cost to make games is the highest it’s ever been.

I’m trying to figure out how that’s Microsoft’s fault??

No.

So explain.

And from the top.

All components are affected by AI.

An AR15 is going to cause more overall damage than a six shooter.

Gamers mos def expect additional content for single player games.

And in regard to that graph, a single storefront does not represent gaming as a whole.

M$ is investing more than ever into AI, so yes, that's going to affect the games/consoles they are publishing/developing.

but yea, @Fatboi1 is right. I'll leave it alone.

 

[The Mad Titan]

At some point yall gotta realize arguing with Meach is a futile exercise. He’s never going to concede or argue honestly. They just are here to waste your time.

 

[VegetasHairline]

At some point yall gotta realize arguing with Meach is a futile exercise. He’s never going to concede or argue honestly. They just are here to waste your time.

Look at you fishing for cult daps!