Gary Payton: "Lebron Wouldn't be as good in our era"

[FreshABM]

lol my wigger freshabm stays arguin with ppl

i still remember u from that ny thread

you think I forgot about the toughest most gangster black man on these coli streets aka also known as a CAC in real life SFGIANTS

Yeah I remember you ..how could I forget ??

 

[NYC Rebel]

hard of reading?? dumb nikkas

You were in hs in 89?? You old mothafucca you

explains your corniness The Black Rebel

Once again your twisting shyt with no quote..

Never said Mash is lacking 1 or 2 things stopping him from being better than Lebron..........So I'm not responding to that again...

So old and can't even find his points

Tony Parker leads the league in scoring in the paint.......It isn't that hard to score in the paint nowadays no matter your size....as long as you can get there...point blank...

Nerd nikka I could give a fucc if you some "ol world Franklin ave" nikka...

You wasn't one of those Ol world nikkas about that life soooooo why you trying to reap the glory???...Stop it...think cuz you shouting a block that means something...You supposedly from brooklyn ..then you should know no1 gives a fucc...who the fucc are you..what work did you put in......I'm sure your name rings NO BELLS...
You a nerd...stay in your lane.............LAME

About that life?

Where the fukk was anyone in hip professing that they hard body?

you're the lame throwing the word Brooklyn like it supposed to mean shyt to me ol Carroll Gardens ass nikka

 

[shopthatwrecks]

nikkas is just saying dumb shyt just to say it now.

When it came to mind games worm was the golddust of the league... Name one player he didn't intimidate after demolition man released..,

Jordan knew.... once Dennis was available he made sure he was a bull.,,

The bulls with Dennis were 100 times better than the bulls with Horace .. Dennis gave worthy more fits in Detroit than Horace ever did

He freaked all them nikkas out from Karl to shaq... Lebron cry at the refs now n get away with it..,no techs... imagine him n Dennis ... Karl n shaq were waaaaaay bigger than Lebron n worm had them nikkas crying n he took em out their respected games

 

[FreshABM]

About that life?

Where the fukk was anyone in hip professing that they hard body?

you're the lame throwing the word Brooklyn like it supposed to mean shyt to me ol Carroll Gardens ass nikka

Much better tone gramps

Gramps you stated to me you a "ol world Franklin" dude

Like that meant something...

How did I throw the word Brooklyn around..I said it once to another poster...you automatically thought it meant we had some type of bond I guess

and stated to me your a Ol Franklin dude

like I could give a fucc ..what the fucc does that mean you tell me then......Your a lame...ok The Black Rebel...

We are nothing a like old homie...just cuz we both from brooklyn don't mean shyt...

Carroll Gardens?? I could give a fucc where anybody stay at...get it how you live...but your from brooklyn and you really can't tell what part of brooklyn I'm from?? You really said Carroll Gardens

yeah your a clown...chill out before somebody taps your pockets Gramps

 

[Hammer]

gary payton is senile, he was still in the league when lebron played...for like 3 or 4 years

 

[MoneyTron]

As MJ famously says

He ain't...

 

[J-Fire]

hmmmm.

shaq played in the 90s and 2000s. shaq was nice in the 90's....but he had to wait for less physically gifted players like the dream to retire (dream had too much skill). Shaq had more skill IMO in the 90s and was able to run the floor better....shaq put on fat and waited for centers to get old and just put a body on n!ggas. REMEMBER....post defenders could push for leverage with the arm bar back in the day.

with that said lebron would have done his thing....but he wouldn't be seeing jordan.
charles barkely was a freak athlete IMO...but he couldn't eclipse jordan. having someone put an arm bar or lean on you wears you out....i think lebron would be skinner to compensate for needing more stamina or put on even more weight to handle the contact, but end up slower. People complain about heavy tablet computers...imagine a man pushing on you for 2hrs...gonna fatigue you.

lebron wouldn't have bosh at center stretching the big man out the paint and you couldnt have bosh at center because he would be abused in the post by ewing, zo, shaq, robinson, hakeem, etc. and be a huge defensive liability that would require a hard double team and leave shooters open. WHY DIDN'T THE 90'S BULLS TAKE OUT LUC LONGELY AND PUT A SHOOTER AT CENTER?!?!.....hmmmmmm.

 

[filial_piety]

GP is rght...in the 90s, Lebron would not be the elite player that he is now. IMO he would still be very good, but not the top gun.

I honestly can't sit here and say without a doublt that he would be better than Karl Malone, Shawn Kemp or any of those guys after Jordan.

It's a tough sell imo.

I seriously think guys like Rodman, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Dale Davis and other guys back then would have made him work much much harder for his. Plus the "Big Man" factor at the center position would have made it much much more difficult for him to earn anything in the paint. I seriosuly don't see LBJ going in and doing what he's been doing against teams with David Robinson, Dikembe Mutumbo, Olujuwan, Ewing, a young Shaq or a young Alonzo Morning. It would have been another major hurdle for him to cross.

 

[McPiff]

larry johnson was a monster...n a man child...he developed that j asap...when he couldnt bang in the paint like he was doin in charlotte avg 20 10 a game...nikka had to develop that outside game

maybe because he had back problems?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

GP is rght...in the 90s, Lebron would not be the elite player that he is now. IMO he would still be very good, but not the top gun.

I honestly can't sit here and say without a doublt that he would be better than Karl Malone, Shawn Kemp or any of those guys after Jordan.

It's a tough sell imo.

I seriously think guys like Rodman, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Dale Davis and other guys back then would have made him work much much harder for his. Plus the "Big Man" factor at the center position would have made it much much more difficult for him to earn anything in the paint. I seriosuly don't see LBJ going in and doing what he's been doing against teams with David Robinson, Dikembe Mutumbo, Olujuwan, Ewing, a young Shaq or a young Alonzo Morning. It would have been another major hurdle for him to cross.

LeBron would blow right past those guys. Why the fukk would you put Dale Davis on LeBron?

nikkas saying dumb shyt just for the sake of hating now.





Come on coli... yall can do better than this.

 

[filial_piety]

LeBron would blow right past those guys. Why the fukk would you put Dale Davis on LeBron?

nikkas saying dumb shyt just for the sake of hating now.





Come on coli... yall can do better than this.

I never said that they would stop him....but what I said is that they would have made him work much harder for it in the paint...imo...he would get bumped, and knocked around much more than he does now. Add the crop of centers to the fold that I mentioned earlier, and I'd argue that he would not be the elite player that he is now.

I never alluded to any of them being better individually or even covering him on the parameter. I just mentioned that in the paint, they would be much more physical with him.

I don't think it has anything to do with nikkaz just saying dumb shyt, anymore than nikkaz just not knowing how to read

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I never said that they would stop him....but what I said is that they would have made him work much harder for it in the paint...imo...he would get bumped, and knocked around much more than he does now. Add the crop of centers to the fold that I mentioned earlier, and I'd argue that he would not be the elite player that he is now.

I never alluded to any of them being better individually or even covering him on the parameter. I just mentioned that in the paint, they would be much more physical with him.

I don't think it has anything to do with nikkaz just saying dumb shyt, anymore than nikkaz just not knowing how to read

No. They wouldn't have made him work harder because they wouldn't have been guarding him. And if they did it would make it easier because they're too slow and he'd blow right by them.

Picture Serge Ibaka, one of the better defensive 4's in today's game trying to guard LeBron. That would be pure comedy.

In the paint it would make no difference. Jordan LIVED in the paint in his younger days and LeBron is twice his size. So Jordan could take the abuse but LeBron can't? That's absurd.

 

[OGmittee]

cant believe ppl are still arguing about that dumb ass comment made by GP

 

[filial_piety]

No. They wouldn't have made him work harder because they wouldn't have been guarding him. And if they did it would make it easier because they're too slow and he'd blow right by them.

Picture Serge Ibaka, one of the better defensive 4's in today's game trying to guard LeBron. That would be pure comedy.

In the paint it would make no difference. Jordan LIVED in the paint in his younger days and LeBron is twice his size. So Jordan could take the abuse but LeBron can't? That's absurd.

Nah they would have. I don't see LBJ bowling over Mason, Dale Davis or any of those guys today in the paint. I don't see him having a major advantage there; some advantage yes, but not much. Like I said, he'd still get his, but not at the level that he does today. The crop of centers back then would be another added variable that would have made it much more difficult.

And the MJ point is moot...MJ was far more versatile in and outside of the paint than LBJ ever was. Jordan didn't dominate the paint by size, but by finess and adjustment. What he couldn't get in the paint, he simply dominated and abused through any angle that he could find.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Nah they would have. I don't see LBJ bowling over Mason, Dale Davis or any of those guys today in the paint. I don't see him having a major advantage there; some advantage yes, but not much. Like I said, he'd still get his, but not at the level that he does today. The crop of centers back then would be another added variable that would have made it much more difficult.

And the MJ point is moot...MJ was far more versatile in and outside of the paint than LBJ ever was. Jordan didn't dominate the paint by size, but by finess and adjustment.

I don't think you watched MJ in the 80's.

I'm pretty much done with this thread though because to be honest it was really a dumb statement made by a guy with a rep as the GOAT trash talker and who is desperately trying to stay relevant. Therefore agreeing with him is just...

LeBron has the skills to play 1-4. He's too big, too strong, too fast and too skilled to be stopped in any generation. That's a fact. Especially when you're naming guys who are 20 pounds lighter than him as "enforcers".

It's really, really ridiculous and you all should just stop.