Gary Payton: "Lebron Wouldn't be as good in our era"

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Do you understand Shaq was starting in the All-Star game as a rookie in 1993 over Patrick Ewing? Do you understand he won a conference title in 95? Do you understand he was averaging 29 points, 12 rebounds and 2 blocks per game throughout the 90's?

I would call that dominating but he didn't win a ring so I guess in reality he was trash. In fact, he was trash up until Monday, June 19, 2000 when he won his first ring. Since obviously you ain't shyt unless you win a ring.



:rudy: FOH

:shaq2: nobody said he was trash nor did anybody say lebron would be trash in the 90's.
are you :troll:ing?
I'm just saying lebron's post season record would be equilivalent to what melo's is right now
 

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:shaq2: nobody said he was trash nor did anybody say lebron would be trash in the 90's.
are you :troll:ing?
I'm just saying lebron's post season record would be equilivalent to what melo's is right now

Based on what when in this hypothetical scenario we don't know who would be on his team?

I agree that LeBron would struggle in the playoffs playing 1 on 5. That would be difficult for anyone.

You sure that medicinal wasn't sprinkled with something, breh?
 

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:what: LeBron would blow right past those guys. Why the fukk would you put Dale Davis on LeBron?

nikkas saying dumb shyt just for the sake of hating now.





Come on coli... yall can do better than this. :snoop:

you gotta be a troll..because you cannot honestly be that stupid...when did he say put Dale on Lebron?? What he was saying was in the paint where Lebron loves to go it was be inevitable for him not to bump into Dale or other players in the post...

but it makes no sense explaining it to you because clearly YOU GOT LEBRON dikk ALL IN YOUR MOUTH




Have you really been in every Lebron thread for the pass 4 days arguing and defending this dude against all opinions?? :heh:

What a herb......your so obessed son called you a white boy and you put a pic up showing nothing but your struggle beard :ohhh:


You need help son...Lebron doesn't know you..........
 

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I like how some peoples arguments are basically along the lines of." well jordan could do it so that means Lebron would be able to do it too."

:heh:
I'm a heat fan but even i don't stan lebron like that. Jordan is capable of doing things that nobody else can do period. Lebron has yet to reach that level of greatness. but he might.

:gladbron:


:obama:


:salute: ...See your being real..these other dudes are Lebron trolls...son need to worry about his stuggle beard instead of commenting on lebron 500 times for the week ...sheesshh
 

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you gotta be a troll..because you cannot honestly be that stupid...when did he say put Dale on Lebron?? What he was saying was in the paint where Lebron loves to go it was be inevitable for him not to bump into Dale or other players in the post...

but it makes no sense explaining it to you because clearly YOU GOT LEBRON dikk ALL IN YOUR MOUTH




Have you really been in every Lebron thread for the pass 4 days arguing and defending this dude against all opinions?? :heh:

What a herb......your so obessed son called you a white boy and you put a pick up showing nothing but your struggle beard :ohhh:


You need help son...Lebron doesn't know you..........

:huhldup: Didn't see your post there, buddy. Could you make it any bigger and brighter?


How is Dale Davis gonna put LeBron on his ass when LeBron is 30 pounds heavier?


This ain't even about dikk riding, this is common sense. 260 pound man barreling down the lane, 230 pound man steps in front. What do you think would happen, Green Lantern?


And since you on dikk riding, why you talmbout a discussion me and another poster had in another thread? Sounds like you're the one dikk riding to me.


You don't see my face? :scusthov: I'm uncomfortable, dawg.
 

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GP was a major trash talker, true, but they all were. The harsh trash talking was just a psychology of the game. And I think he actually made a good point. I'll say it again, I think it would have been much more difficult for LBJ to do what he does today in the 90s. A lot of those guys were far more aggressive in the paint. It was like royal rumble in there. Plus the crop of centers back then were a major obstacle.

LBJ fans can say what they want--but I just don't see him bowling his way in the paint, getting shouldered by Mason, clothe-lined by Oakley and still catching the And-1 over Ewing (as an example). I also don't see him doing this against the 90s Magic, Rockets, Bulls, Hornets or Spurs game in and game out. The defensive challenges were just higher back then. Would he be the best player on the floor? Maybe and Probably (exceptions being MJ and Shaq of course).Dominant? No A. High quality caliber forward? Yes. But I don't think we'd see the "obvious MVP" that we see today, nor do I believe he would have a ring. From your scope and viewpoint, you illustrate this as if you were talking about a 1 on 1 game. I'm looking at the team dynamics that he would have faced and the fact that there were several teams that would have posed this challenge to him today.

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:obama:


:salute: ...See your being real..these other dudes are Lebron trolls...son need to worry about his stuggle beard instead of commenting on lebron 500 times for the week ...sheesshh

So you're gonna side with the guy who said Shaq wouldn't be able to dominate in the 90's? :pachaha:

You don't worry me in the least.
 

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:huhldup: Didn't see your post there, buddy. Could you make it any bigger and brighter?


How is Dale Davis gonna put LeBron on his ass when LeBron is 30 pounds heavier?


This ain't even about dikk riding, this is common sense. 260 pound man barreling down the lane, 230 pound man steps in front. What do you think would happen, Green Lantern?


And since you on dikk riding, why you talmbout a discussion me and another poster had in another thread? Sounds like you're the one dikk riding to me.


You don't see my face? :scusthov: I'm uncomfortable, dawg.

Listen struggle beard......your dumb ass is acting like its impossible to hit Lebron to the floor...either take Lebron's dikk out your mouth or stop responding to me troll....

Struggle beard wilding...You in every Lebron thread...talking bullshyt...

once again..Lebron doesn't know you...fucc are you in every thread about him everyday.......sheesshhhhh.....no wonder you got his kids in your mouth




Struggle beard :deadrose:


and unlike you struggle beard...just because I agree with something some1 says doesn't mean I agree with EVERYTHING they said............but you wouldn't understand that struggle beard with Lebron dikk all in your mouth...you can't see no wrong
 

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Listen stuggle beard......your dumb ass is acting like its impossible to hit Lebron to the floor...either take Lebron's dikk out your mouth or stop responding to me troll....

Stuggle beard wilding...You in every Lebron thread...talking bullshyt...

once again..Lebron doesn't know you...fucc are you in every thread about him everyday.......sheesshhhhh.....no wonder you got his kids in your mouth




Stuggle beard :deadrose:

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Your whole style is wack, b. From your fruity font to your pathetic insults. Even if I was dikk riding LeBron, you dikk riding me, hoe. The only reason I remember you is your gay ass font. And now I can add dikk riding fakkit who loves the attention to that description too.

Who is @FreshABM ? Nothing but a fakkit who probably uses pink ink pens and can't seem to find his way out of my pubes. That's it. That's your life. Enjoy.
 
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Nah they would have. I don't see LBJ bowling over Mason, Dale Davis or any of those guys today in the paint. I don't see him having a major advantage there; some advantage yes, but not much. Like I said, he'd still get his, but not at the level that he does today. The crop of centers back then would be another added variable that would have made it much more difficult.

And the MJ point is moot...MJ was far more versatile in and outside of the paint than LBJ ever was. Jordan didn't dominate the paint by size, but by finess and adjustment. What he couldn't get in the paint, he simply dominated and abused through any angle that he could find.





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