Gary Payton vs Jason Kidd

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Payton's averages started to go up when Seattle turned mediocre from 98-03.



Kidd had his best years leading teams to the NBA Finals......A team that was known as "Clippers east".


He elevated a whole franchise and took it to another level.



Like I say, the name "Glove" has a lot of momentum behind it.


A lot of people are going to be mad at me

 

[GreatestLaker]

Gary Payton's career stats




16.3 ppg

6.7 apg




Don't get me wrong, I know he had a cool nick name and played great D, but Jason Kidd is a once every 20 years type of point guard.



I'll take Jason Kidd.....Kidd actually edges him out in career steals per game, to.



I actually think GP is one of the most overrated players from the 90's.



Him and his running mate Shawn Kemp have mediocre career stats.



But them nikkaz is juggernauts in urban pop culture.You can't stop that kind of momentum

Payton didn't play his rookie year and he only played like 10 minutes a game his last 3 years in the NBA. That's why his career stats are so low.

 

[GreatestLaker]

The question ask who was better in their prime.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

The question ask who was better in their prime.

>>>>Payton's averages started to go up when Seattle turned mediocre from 98-03.<<<<<<<<<<



Kidd had his best years leading teams to the NBA Finals......A team that was known as "Clippers east".


He elevated a whole franchise and took it to another level.



Like I say, the name "Glove" has a lot of momentum behind it.


Oh yeah.....Gary Payton averaged 27.4 mpg his rookie year and nearly 28 mpg his last 3 years

A lot of people are going to be mad at me

 

[BillBanneker]

Do you guys think that Payton coulda taken those Nets squads to the finals?

You see the team AI took to the finals breh?

 

[Kid Coli]

Jason Kidd easily.

 

[brick james]

You see the team AI took to the finals breh?

u right

 

[Big Mel]

both awesome. Kidd was way funner to spectate. Glove was obviously a scorer.


Kidd gets my vote. i loved watching him feed the Mavs last year. he's a genius.

 

[Marvel]

Its very close but I would take Peyton. Kidd was not an efficient offensive player and I would say that Gary was a slightly better defender and a polished offensive player. Kidd is the better passer but he had to be due to his lack of offense.

 

[brick james]

Its very close but I would take Peyton. Kidd was not an efficient offensive player and I would say that Gary was a slightly better defender and a polished offensive player. Kidd is the better passer but he had to be due to his lack of offense.

kidds court vision and rebounding though

 

[Marvel]

kidds court vision and rebounding though

I agree with that, I think that kidd was a great talent who knew his limitations and realized that he had to do other things to help his team win.

 

[fantabolous]

i'll take payton... just a style preference, kidd was a monster too

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You see the team AI took to the finals breh?

What do y'all see in Payton?



Payton's Career playoff averages are 14 points and 5 assist



AI's Career playoff averages are 30 points and 6 assist


Gary Payton was a good scorer, but he couldn't single handedly carry a team on offense like AI


No way those 76er teams make it to the finals with Payton instead of AI.They wouldn't have had the scoring punch.


Defensively, they wouldn't have been much better.AI has a better spg average than him, to.

Glove was a better man to man defender, but I don't think that would be enough to make up for AI's scoring abilities on that 76ers team.


I don't get the Gary Payton stuff.Personally, he was never that impressive to me.I thought he was a phenomenal man to man defender, but anything beyond that....he had a rugged offensive game and a knuckle ball jump shot

 

[the cool]

Jkidd took that scrub squad in jersey to back to back nba finals appearances

 

[torcher]

J Kidd and it aint even close. Only thing Payton did better then Kidd was shoot