Gen Z men with college degrees now have the same unemployment rate as non-grads—a sign that the higher education payoff is dead

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The education system was built for indoctrination. Not for building your knowledge of how things really work.

You will have to educate yourself, and know where to find the truth yourself.

Now you have a bunch of people in debt, that have to go to work as slaves to the system.
Its the opposite actually, educated people are generally more capable of thinking for themselves. The uneducated are generally the most indcorrinated people in this country
 

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The Coli Excuses will come in
  1. Breh, College is for networking
  2. Hey Dummie, Picked the Wrong Major
  3. Better Have a Plan, unless you want to be flipping burgers
  4. Shoulda picked a trade
  5. You can still go to the military
I'm sure I missed a few, but it's the typical lack of analysis and inability to see a problem with new eyes.

They will defend the system until it collapses on them and their family is starving.
 

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Its the opposite actually, educated people are generally more capable of thinking for themselves. The uneducated are generally the most indcorrinated people in this country

No

What you have today is an indoctrination.

That's why nobody can see the problem punching them in the face.
 

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I always saw this as a sign that students are picking the wrong majors compared the market demand.

When i went to college i researched the degree programs and ultimately choose Accounting, because at the time the unemployment rate for people with BBA's in account was literally at 0%.
(i initially thought about majoring in CIS, but the market for that major was bleak at the time)
meanwhile kids are often choosing majors at random and going into debt without a real career plan.
Nobody teaches kids to gameplan for college, and make logical degree choice. they just rush you off to college and tell you, you can be anything you want.
This. I know so many people I went to college with that one never used their degrees. Went back to school for masters in a different field. Opt for a trade or just took a job and in anything.
 

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I always saw this as a sign that students are picking the wrong majors compared the market demand.

When i went to college i researched the degree programs and ultimately choose Accounting, because at the time the unemployment rate for people with BBA's in account was literally at 0%. (yes, you can see the unemployment rate for your degree prior to wasting four years on it)

meanwhile kids are often choosing majors at random and going into debt without a real career plan.
Nobody teaches kids to gameplan for college, and make logical degree choice. they just rush you off to college and tell you, you can be anything you want.
Almosts sounds like blame is being shifted to the chilren. The way they blamed me for not getting having a full time job after I graduated, in the middle of the Great Depression.
 

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I got a $20K raise once I completed my degree. fukk anyone saying a degree is worthless
Just like everything in life there is nuance to shyt. it's not black and white. has higher education lost value? for sure. but If you plan on ever getting a high level position you need one. All degrees aint created equal and really only a small branch is worth the time at this point. If you went to college for 4 years for marketing, psychology , English yeah you fukked up lol. 4 years of real work experience >.
 

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As an older millennial, I think if you're under 30 it's too soon to judge how valuable your education is.

College grads almost always make more in the long term. I make pretty decent money now, but when I was in my early 20s just out of college I was only making like $14/hr and I didn't find my "career" job until I was in my late 20s.

\When I was under 25 I'm sure some people in my age group who didn't go to college were making more than me at the time, but now I have an office job with good benefits, ability to work from home and a pension and those same people either aren't making much more than they were back then or are stuck in physical labor jobs that'll probably give them health problems.
 

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encouraging everyone to go to college has been a failure, and the government guaranteeing these loans has been a disaster. basically made it the new high school diploma, and colleges have zero incentive to keep costs down

if you know what you want to do, and go for a specific degree that pays off, it's a good move

if you go to college to get some bullshyt ass "business management" or sociology degree, it's probably not worth it
The gov should’ve forced them to keep costs down
 

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Almosts sounds like blame is being shifted to the chilren. The way they blamed me for not getting having a full time job after I graduated, in the middle of the Great Depression.
yes, and no. They aren't to blame for people not hiring. But they are perfectly capable of looking up which degrees are in demand before choosing a major.

Thread literally referenced the unemployment rate. You can look that up while you are in school. You don't have to wait four years to find out its trending downward.
 
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