General Motors workers call their first nation wide strike since 1982

[JackRoss]

I used to do Pensions for GM workers. Those guys are the WOAT. THESE ARE THE FUKKERS THAT BROKE THE MANUFACTURING ECONOMY.

Job for life cacs who get huge pensions and never went to school. Work 30-50 years at the same job marrying fukking and having affairs with each other. Their finances are a fukking headache. If you really want to see why society has classes all you gotta do is look at people like this who make good paper and still live like they are at the bottom. Men who are retirement age with child support payments and alimonies eating up their wallets.

I'm not even supposed to ever talk about this shyt because we signed confidentiality papers and looked into people's lives. But the shyt is disgusting. Boomers really fukked the world. They DESTROYED union work and manufacturing industry being lazy and inefficient after they got set up and the shyt rolled down the hill. They really have nothing to protest about. The manufacturing industry will never rebound in the way people expect it to be with livable wages like back then. It just doesn't compute with the global economy now. Our grandparents used to buy things and have them for decades. We are in the store daily. Things are made cheap and low quality. Anyone today talking about bringing the manufacturing jobs back will not pay what it costs to buy goods made in the west. It's a stalemate.

Why are there people that have issues with unions? I can only think of petty, surface level issues. Should I be thinking deeper?

 

[levitate]

Kill the electric car, brehs.

fukk GM.

That EV1 was the future and they killed it, so fukk them.

 

[Originalman]

I figured that's what it was. That's dirty as hell. No raise in 10 years? Union leaders and reps allowed that to happen?

I think they did it as an agreement cause of 2008. It was either help save the company or the company goes under and everyone loses their job.

Seen this happen a few times with unions.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

This is GM endgame..

Soon they will ONLY produce

Silverado/Sierra/Tahoe/Yukon/suburban/Yukon XL. And the Vette.

And very limited production of cadilllac

Them plants producing non trucks will appreciate be closed.

Buick will be extincit.. in 5yrs..

 

[JackRoss]

I think they did it as an agreement cause of 2008. It was either help save the company or the company goes under and everyone loses their job.

Seen this happen a few times with unions.

What would you have done?

 

[ROFL_GUY]

GM is going to kill off its big Buick and Cadillac sedans in the US, but they are still alive and well in China

If you working @hamarack or lordstown

 

[Doobie Doo]

GOAT economy

Anyone saying trump is going to win in 2020 is a clown. Rust belt states like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania carried trump. He promised those swing voters that it’d be a manufacturing revival in those parts. Lot of factories are idling due to the trade war.

Trump's win has every thing to do with Racism, regardless of the economy

 

[Htrb-nvr-blk-&-ug-as-evr]

whats the hottest GM vehicle right now though

*leaves thread in lifted f250 super crew *

Their full size SUVs are their bread and butter. Trucks second...they used to be the top earner, but this recent redesign kinda fuked up the high rolling cash flow. They discounting the fuk out of them. Ford dominates the consumer and commercial light and low-medium duty truck sector. GM can’t sell a sedan for shyt except to car rental agencies and Coli members. Gas goes back up to oh-shyt levels and all the domestics are fuked with no cars to fall back on...

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Republicans and trump. Bank and prey off the emotions of people.

Emotions can be manipulated.. logic tho

 

[The_Sheff]

I used to do Pensions for GM workers. Those guys are the WOAT. THESE ARE THE FUKKERS THAT BROKE THE MANUFACTURING ECONOMY.

Job for life cacs who get huge pensions and never went to school. Work 30-50 years at the same job marrying fukking and having affairs with each other. Their finances are a fukking headache. If you really want to see why society has classes all you gotta do is look at people like this who make good paper and still live like they are at the bottom. Men who are retirement age with child support payments and alimonies eating up their wallets.

I'm not even supposed to ever talk about this shyt because we signed confidentiality papers and looked into people's lives. But the shyt is disgusting. Boomers really fukked the world. They DESTROYED union work and manufacturing industry being lazy and inefficient after they got set up and the shyt rolled down the hill. They really have nothing to protest about. The manufacturing industry will never rebound in the way people expect it to be with livable wages like back then. It just doesn't compute with the global economy now. Our grandparents used to buy things and have them for decades. We are in the store daily. Things are made cheap and low quality. Anyone today talking about bringing the manufacturing jobs back will not pay what it costs to buy goods made in the west. It's a stalemate.

People paid into those pensions. They didnt break the manufacturing economy in the US, globalization did. Even without pensions western nations cant compete with manufacturing in developing countries where they can work a person 12 hour shifts with mandatory unpaid OT, 2 days off a month, and wages that start at 18 cents an hour.

 

[Noriega]

Trump's win has every thing to do with Racism, regardless of the economy

You can’t sit up here and say that when States like the ones I named are deeply Union which tend to vote blue.

The states named are the states that decided the election, which happen to be key manufacturing states also

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Why are there people that have issues with unions? I can only think of petty, surface level issues. Should I be thinking deeper?

It's more of the culture they breed. Unions are great and they played a major role in society for Blue Collar workers... Problem is they got too big and powerful for their own good. A lot of workers abused their protection and the job market reacted. Today you see so many employment agencies middle manning the hiring process for employers which has led to a lot of Employers not even having real HR departments. They cut a lot of costs associated with employees and their administration by transferring a lot of their work force into temporary position instead of permanent then cut benefits. The actual ability for employees to be protected as full time workers is absent and unions are rare now compared to before.

I know Union workers from manufacturing to government jobs I've seen them abuse the system to their benefit. Most of them are also boomers. We were left holding the bag for this

 

[Originalman]

What would you have done?

As a worker I would have made the deal as well. Either that or potentially lose everything.

The problem brotha is that companies take advantage of this. They will ask the union workers to take pay cuts and the salary employees waive raises for years. But will make sure that Executives, VPs and CEOs steady get their raises.

Check this out. I use to work for a company where they literally gave everyone their bonuses and then the next day laid 3,000 folks off. Now only salary folks and CEO, Executives and management got bonuses. But the hourly and union workers didn't.

The CEO and Executives approved the bonuses (instead of not giving them out and keeping folks) and where like we want our bonuses and after we get them we can lay off folks to cut costs.

 

[JackRoss]

As a worker I would have made the deal as well. Either that or potentially lose everything.

The problem brotha is that companies take advantage of this. They will ask the union workers to take pay cuts and the salary employees waive raises for years. But will make sure that Executives, VPs and CEOs steady get their raises.

Check this out. I use to work for a company where they literally gave everyone their bonuses and then the next day laid 3,000 folks off. Now only salary folks and CEO, Executives and management got bonuses. But the hourly and union workers didn't.

The CEO and Executives approved the bonuses (instead of not giving them out and keeping folks) and where like we want our bonuses and after we get them we can lay off folks to cut costs.

Yeah I would have taken the deal too. I didn't know they were playing dirt like though. Like my company has a contract with Ford, I didn't even know there would be a potential strike until Thursday. shyts wild. Looking to get out ASAP.

Good insight bruh

 

[JackRoss]

It's more of the culture they breed. Unions are great and they played a major role in society for Blue Collar workers... Problem is they got too big and powerful for their own good. A lot of workers abused their protection and the job market reacted. Today you see so many employment agencies middle manning the hiring process for employers which has led to a lot of Employers not even having real HR departments. They cut a lot of costs associated with employees and their administration by transferring a lot of their work force into temporary position instead of permanent then cut benefits. The actual ability for employees to be protected as full time workers is absent and unions are rare now compared to before.

I know Union workers from manufacturing to government jobs I've seen them abuse the system to their benefit. Most of them are also boomers. We were left holding the bag for this

When you say abuse the system, what do you mean? I think I know exactly what you are saying though. Just need confirmation