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I think we have a disagreement on Elon’s motivations. I think he’s racist but I also think he’s an autistic incel at heart and was willing to go overboard to be liked by the right wing.

He didn’t do shyt like this when he was in the left wing orbit - I think his daughter turning trans is what made him spiral into an anti woke death spiral where years later he does Nazi salutes

I also think Elon being in MAGA orbit made him more racist to overcompensate versus Elon being in MAGA made them more racist.

By the way, philosophically do you agree with America absorbing Nazi scientists instead of executing them after WW2 ended?
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President Donald Trump threatened “very serious consequences” against Elon Musk on Saturday if the tech billionaire and former adviser were to fund any Democratic candidates, the latest escalation in rhetoric as the messy breakup between the two former allies.
Since their spectacular falling out, Musk has floated the idea of launching a new political party and continued to criticize a massive tax and immigration bill that Trump is urging congressional Republicans to pass.
In an interview with NBC News Saturday, Trump said Musk would “pay the consequences” if he were to start funding any Democratic candidates to challenge the Republicans who support that bill but would not describe what those consequences would be.
“If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump said in the phone interview, later repeating: “He’ll have to pay very serious consequences if he does that.”
Trump told the network that he assumed his relationship with Musk was over and also continued to insist, as he did in several interviews with media outlets Friday, that he was too busy to reach out to Musk.

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“I gave him a lot of breaks, long before this happened. I gave him breaks in my first administration, and saved his life in my first administration,” Trump told NBC News, without elaborating on what those interventions were. “I have no intention of speaking to him.”
Trump also claimed he had not given any further thought to terminating government contracts with Starlink or SpaceX, two of Musk’s companies, an idea the president had first suggested on social media Thursday.
“I think it’s a very bad thing, because he’s very disrespectful. You could not disrespect the office of the president,” Trump told NBC News Saturday.
Trump ended his interview with the network by suggesting that Musk was “so depressed and so heartbroken,” though it’s unclear if he thought that was a result of their feud or the driving force behind Musk’s sudden public attacks on the Trump White House three days ago.
Little more than a week ago, Musk amicably left his formal role as a special government employee overseeing the U.S. DOGE Service. Trump lavished praise on Musk, saying he was “really not leaving” and hinting that he would actually shuttle back and forth between his tech companies — Musk also owns Tesla and the social media site X — and advising the White House.
However, shortly after he departed, Musk began publicly criticizing Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill,” legislation that Musk highlighted would drastically increase the national debt.
The rift escalated rapidly. By Thursday, the two were engaged in a full-blown tit-for-tat on their respective social media platforms. After Trump suggested the federal government terminate contracts with SpaceX, Musk said his space company would begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft “immediately.”
Musk also appeared to support the idea that Trump be impeached and replaced by Vice President JD Vance and warned that Trump’s tariffs would “cause a recession in the second half of this year.”
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I think we have a disagreement on Elon’s motivations. I think he’s racist but I also think he’s an autistic incel at heart and was willing to go overboard to be liked by the right wing.

He didn’t do shyt like this when he was in the left wing orbit - I think his daughter turning trans is what made him spiral into an anti woke death spiral where years later he does Nazi salutes

I also think Elon being in MAGA orbit made him more racist to overcompensate versus Elon being in MAGA made them more racist.

By the way, philosophically do you agree with America absorbing Nazi scientists instead of executing them after WW2 ended?
Operation Paperclip was a bunch of opportunist scientist. I don't think most people view the world that black and white. Dudes like Werner von Braun woulda had their whole family murked if they didn't do what they did. Plus the Soviet's were taking in the genocidy scientist we didn't really do that.

But we've seen in present what Elon wants when in power. He wants no HIV prevention, No research for child diseases, No Social Security, No weather data to prevent or prepare for catastrophes. It's a dark time we're living in. Yall think this will end like Return of the Jedi or something, I don't see it.
 

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Operation Paperclip was a bunch of opportunist scientist. I don't think most people view the world that black and white. Dudes like Werner von Braun woulda had their whole family murked if they didn't do what they did. Plus the Soviet's were taking in the genocidy scientist we didn't really do that.

But we've seen in present what Elon wants when in power. He wants no HIV prevention, No research for child diseases, No Social Security, No weather data to prevent or prepare for catastrophes. It's a dark time we're living in. Yall think this will end like Return of the Jedi or something, I don't see it.
My sense is that Elon is a cudgel for whoever is giving him the most admiration/validation. He didn’t openly express those type of views pre- his daughter turning trans/ when everyone thought he was a real life Tony Stark. Was that the real Elon or is the real Elon being displayed now despite him having obvious substance abuse issues?
 

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i know that progressives hate winning elections, but after that ass-kicking in 2024, where do Dems get the hubris to turn down help from elon? :mjlol:

you clowns have to make up your minds. if trump is a nazi who's ruining people's lives, then Elon helping to remove MAGA from power is a good thing. period.
Your first mistake was assuming he had a problem with Trump being in office. Count up his posts and you’ll see a striking difference between those critical of Trump and those critical of democrats.
 

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My sense is that Elon is a cudgel for whoever is giving him the most admiration/validation. He didn’t openly express those type of views pre- his daughter turning trans/ when everyone thought he was a real life Tony Stark. Was that the real Elon or is the real Elon being displayed now despite him having obvious substance abuse issues?
He actually did, he's been expressing those views for years, you just like fascist that aren't attached to trump. Elon a historical piece of shyt and should not be promoted anywhere near the democratic party if the party had principles. If elon was to fund taking down republicans on some Lincoln project shyt away from democrats let him, but the patty itself should not be backing elon.
 

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Proud Boys' $100 Million Lawsuit Puts Trump In A Lose-Lose Position



Posted on Sat Jun 7 07:16:56 2025 UTC



Commented on Sat Jun 7 07:22:52 2025 UTC

1) Proud Boys have always been big Trump supporters. Trump, in turn, embraced their support during the 2016 run. Proud Boys were big participants of Jan. 6 insurrection

2) Trump pardoned them, as promised, when he became President

3) Now, they're suing the federal govt for damages

TL:DR Proud Boys were Trump's leopards but now trying to eat his face.


Commented on Sat Jun 7 07:24:00 2025 UTC

Their lawsuit effectively leaves Trump’s administration with two politically unappetizing options: Defend the Biden administration’s prosecution after Trump pardoned them and nearly all other Jan. 6 offenders, or force American taxpayers to shell out for a settlement with them.

He will force taxpayers to shell out and blame Biden.
 

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My sense is that Elon is a cudgel for whoever is giving him the most admiration/validation. He didn’t openly express those type of views pre- his daughter turning trans/ when everyone thought he was a real life Tony Stark. Was that the real Elon or is the real Elon being displayed now despite him having obvious substance abuse issues?

Does his backstory really matter?

He's still a Nazi who turned his social media platform into st0rmfr0nt. Whether or not he was always like that isn't really relevant, present day Elon is a right-wing supremacist fascist who thinks lowly of anyone who isn't a rich white person. And to add onto that he's unpopular anyway -



Democrats rushing in to cape for Elon after all this is just :scust: I don't care about purity politics but I don't think not wanting to ally with Nazis is unreasonable
 

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He actually did, he's been expressing those views for years, you just like fascist that aren't attached to trump. Elon a historical piece of shyt and should not be promoted anywhere near the democratic party if the party had principles. If elon was to fund taking down republicans on some Lincoln project shyt away from democrats let him, but the patty itself should not be backing elon.
Elon by proxy has done more for humanity than Trump ever has yet that doesn’t stop you from having a soft spot in your heart for Trump.

I guess we all have a fascists we have a soft spot for :yeshrug:


Elon is a piece of shyt, racist incel but the companies he leads are aligned with left of center politics, (electric cars, investment in space and low cost access to high speed internet)
 
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