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I don’t watch Hasan. Is he the “thought leader” responsible for convincing online leftist that it would be ok for Trump to win over Gaza?
Yeah he’s one of their favorites. To avoid wasting too much time looking into him, that clip summarizes him pretty nicely.
 
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I was one of the first people in here to support Kamala. You can check the record. Check the election thread. I was pushing for Kamala while most of these Johnny Come Lately Libs/Centrists were still humping Biden's corpse. But it was plainly obvious to me that you cannot make a strong argument against the potential of a future Trump administration endangering the Palestinian cause when you're actively aiding and abetting their genocide right now. Kamala ran a campaign that was incredibly hostile to the Palestinian cause, which was both an immoral position for her to take and electoral malpractice. At no point in time did she even attempt to show she credibly shared the perspective of the anti-genocide coalition or that she could be reasoned with. Time after time she treated anti-genocide groups like lepers. All in the service of reaching out to heartless moderate Republicans with the acquiescence of brainless Liberals. If she wouldn't even give the Palestinian cause space at the DNC, why would we believe she would give it space within her administration? She ended up continued the same mistake Biden did; making people of conscience have to step over the mutilated bodies of Palestinian children to vote for her. Some couldn't stomach it. That's not their fault, that's hers. When a politician puts people in some Joker-esque trolley problem, you can't be surprised when they lose votes.


I'm not sure what irrational anger you're referring to, but the political party that lost opened that door themselves by also excusing and encouraging the genocide. There was no anti-genocide option on the ballot. Yet for some reason, many people in here reflexively, instinctively look to blame the relatively powerless nameless individual voter instead of the actual powerful politicians and Party that could have changed the losing dynamic but chose not to. The urge to lick boots is deeply ensconced in the Liberal mindset. "My political leaders are never capable of failing us, it's us who is capable of failing them."
Why do you keep going back and forth with a shyt posting non American troll account kids, the long nonsensical word salads should be a red flag...
 

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Why do you keep going back and forth with a shyt posting non American troll account kids, the long nonsensical word salads should be a red flag...
He’s like a gnat at the cookout. Eventually you got to realize he’s going to bother you all day doing the same dumb shyt over and over and it’s better to just go about your business ignoring him unless you’re bored.
 

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I'm not sure what irrational anger you're referring to, but the political party that lost opened that door themselves by also excusing and encouraging the genocide. There was no anti-genocide option on the ballot. Yet for some reason, many people in here reflexively, instinctively look to blame the relatively powerless nameless individual voter instead of the actual powerful politicians and Party that could have changed the losing dynamic but chose not to. The urge to lick boots is deeply ensconced in the Liberal mindset. "My political leaders are never capable of failing us, it's us who is capable of failing them."
It comes down to the fact that they genuinely think all Dems are good people, which is an insane belief. That is why a guy like @Hood Critic genuinely believed the Biden admin was working hard to get aid to Gazans while having no concern that Blinken lied to Congress about Israel not blocking aid. IIRC, he said he believes in the US hegemony, or another way is he supports the US empire as long as its a Democratic president leading it.

@88m3 hates Arab people and has over a decade of posts sharing that.
 

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It comes down to the fact that they genuinely think all Dems are good people, which is an insane belief. That is why a guy like @Hood Critic genuinely believed the Biden admin was working hard to get aid to Gazans while having no concern that Blinken lied to Congress about Israel not blocking aid. IIRC, he said he believes in the US hegemony, or another way is he supports the US empire as long as its a Democratic president leading it.

@88m3 hates Arab people and has over a decade of posts sharing that.

Most of these blue maga posters see politics like blood vs crips, they don't stand for anything but party affiliation and colored t shirts. If democrats started talking cutting taxes, waiving social security, private healthcaee they would be at the front lines cheesing like a cheshire cat looking good get their votes in early.

 

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Most of these blue maga posters see politics like blood vs crips, they don't stand for anything but party affiliation and colored t shirts. If democrats started talking cutting taxes, waiving social security, private healthcaee they would be at the front lines cheesing like a cheshire cat looking good get their votes in early.
Do you have any proof of this? BlueMAGA is the most vindicated up to this point. BlueMAGA tried to convince as many as we could to vote for Kamala because we knew this would be the outcome. Your sides “morality” over pragmatism helped contribute to this fascist hell we’re in
 

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Do you have any proof of this? BlueMAGA is the most vindicated up to this point. BlueMAGA tried to convince as many as we could to vote for Kamala because we knew this would be the outcome. Your sides “morality” over pragmatism helped contribute to this fascist hell we’re in
Blue maga and the dems is why Gaza has been leveled to a fukking parking lot tf u talking about? Biden committed a fukking genocide that gave the opening for the next step being an ethnic cleansing. You people only care about fascism when it personally impacts you, handwaved biden supporting a fascist far right racist government enacting in a genocide because it wasn't at your door steps. Just like red maga, followers to the core with no moral compass or ideology.
 

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Blue maga and the dems is why Gaza has been leveled to a fukking parking lot tf u talking about? Biden committed a fukking genocide that gave the opening for the next step being an ethnic cleansing. You people only care about fascism when it personally impacts you, handwaved biden supported a fascist far right racist government enacting in a genocide because it wasn't at your door steps. Just like red maga, followers to the core with no moral compass or ideology.
Maybe you have the wrong morality if it leads to Trump getting elected.

Excuse me if I care more about what happens to Americans based on an American election than what happens is GAZA which immediate conflict was started by a fascist terrorist organization that governs said people
 
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Blue maga and the dems is why Gaza has been leveled to a fukking parking lot tf u talking about? Biden committed a fukking genocide that gave the opening for the next step being an ethnic cleansing. You people only care about fascism when it personally impacts you, handwaved biden supporting a fascist far right racist government enacting in a genocide because it wasn't at your door steps. Just like red maga, followers to the core with no moral compass or ideology.
There is no such thing as blue maga. I seriously doubt you speak like that in real life to actual humans. And if you do they think you are a weirdo. You might want to log off and go touch grass like the cool kids say
 

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The framing of Bidens culpability in the conflict is completely disingenuous. The lose for Gaza leftist make it seem like Biden woke up with a wild hair under his ass one day and decided to drop me a nuke on Gaza completely unprovoked.

You also need to include why the conflict started in the first place when you try to finger wag with your superior morality
 

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Most of these blue maga posters see politics like blood vs crips, they don't stand for anything but party affiliation and colored t shirts. If democrats started talking cutting taxes, waiving social security, private healthcaee they would be at the front lines cheesing like a cheshire cat looking good get their votes in early.
Tbh, it’s not their fault. America has made politics less about politics and policy and more about rivalries and entertainment. The average Republican voter is the same way a the average Demoratic voter—which nearly everyone on this site is, just average. My issue is always how high minded a people are for doing the same thing. No one here is a political strategist or trying to get people to vote for them, so why not express your conscience instead of what your limited understanding of Game Theory says.
 
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Maybe you have the wrong morality if it leads to Trump getting elected.
Right, your position is that there is no act that Biden/Democrats could take that would be immoral as long as it leads to Trump being defeated. Donald Trump is the magnetic field that aligns your moral compass. That Biden/Democrats took the pro-genocide position and still lost to Donald Trump doesn't seem to have any impact on your reasoning, but whatever.
 

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Right, your position is that there is no act that Biden/Democrats could take that would be immoral as long as it leads to Trump being defeated. Donald Trump is the magnetic field that aligns your moral compass. That Biden/Democrats took the pro-genocide position and still lost to Donald Trump doesn't seem to have any impact on your reasoning, but whatever.
My moral position was to support the candidate that would produce the least amount of harm or improve the lives of the most amount of people.

There’s no doubt that Biden or Kamala would cause the most amount of harm reduction.

Trump has already done irreparable damage to the administrative state and it’s only been two weeks. Our lives will be negatively impacted by this administration for decades to come.
 
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