Genetics: are the Igbo tribe mixed race

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(1) I was born and raised in Africa...My statements are based on personal experience...

(2) "Black" people are various shades of brown...There are some Sri Lankans who are even darker Sudanese...But for some reason, we don't call those Sri Lankans "blacks"...

(2) I have already mentioned the Khoi San...

thats cause they have straight hair. black means not only dark skin but also kinky/curly hair. thus the aborigines in austrailia and papau new guinea are black but the south asians are not.
 

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usually places on earth near the equator get the most sunshine hence greater ultraviolet radiation hence the reason melanin evolved in the first place to protect us from skin cancer. the further you get from the equator the less exposure to the sun and the less need for melanin and dark skin. its the reason people on earth get lighter the further you move from the equator.

since nigeria is near the equator, that means most folks native to there should be dark skinned.....and they are. if a minority of people in nigeria are light skin, then i believe its a reasonable hypothesis to believe they are mixed. it makes no sense BIOLOGICALLY for all the neighbors of the Igbo to be dark skin and they only be light skin. unless their tribe recently moved into nigeria from farther north, they should also be dark skin.

This is not pertinent.

Nigeria is covered by vegetation and the climate is very humid.

In fact, Khoisan are more affected by the sun cause they live in the desert where the temperature climbs up to 40 degree celsius.
 
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"race" is just so inconsistent theres really no point arguing you will just go round and round in circles you got admixed African Americans who are darker than some indigenous africans.
a lot of east africans look straight up indian and some indians look black.

humans are all linked some how leave it at that:manny:

thats because you had indians in east africa and blacks in india. some of you need to get ya heads outta the sand. two groups living in the same enviroment don't magically look different from one another.

the indians with africans features in india are descended from africans that were brought during the arab slave trade. there are even older generations that came during trade expeditions. same thing with indians in east africa. there is a long history of trade alongside the east coast of africa of trade ports and cities founded by africans and non-africans.

sorry bruh but indian looking east africans don't just magically come outta nowhere and neither do black looking indians. those people are mixed.
 

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true. the bushmen are a perfect example. HOWEVER for tribes living near the equator, light skin should not exist. the fact some igbos are light skin means they probably are mixed. their neighbors the yoroba definitely ain't light skinned.

the only way two groups that live side by side can look different is if one has genes different than the other.

Sorry, but that's incredibly stupid grade school like thinking. Had to neg you for using pseudo-science :ld:.
 
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This is not pertinent.

Nigeria is covered by vegetation and the climate is very humid.

In fact, Khoisan are more affected by the sun cause they live in the desert where the temperature climbs up to 40 degree celsius.

skin color isn't effected by vegetation or humidity. its based on SUNLIGHT. having dark skin to protect yourself from the sun's ultraviolet radioation while not being too dark so that you are still getting enough sunlight to produce vitamin D.

here's a good map showing what skin color should look like based purely on enviromental factors

skin-color-world-map.jpg
 
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Sorry, but that's incredibly stupid grade school like thinking. Had to neg you for using pseudo-science :ld:.

this is what the predicted skin color should be based purely on the enviroment. if you know your geography, you'll know nigeria is right in that large black swath that covers the center of africa from west to east.

skin-color-world-map.jpg
 

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skin color isn't effected by vegetation or humidity. its based on SUNLIGHT. having dark skin to protect yourself from the sun's ultraviolet radioation while not being too dark so that you are still getting enough sunlight to produce vitamin D.

here's a good map showing what skin color should look like based purely on enviromental factors

skin-color-world-map.jpg



This is a gross simplification.

The environment is not the sole factor explaining skin color.

Plus, the sun is not the only environmental factor.

Like I've said, the Khoisan are more affected by the sun than many Nigerians because of the desert.

Even the map you've posted shows that many people in central Africa have lighter skin, even if they LITERALLY live under the equator line.
 
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This is a gross simplification.

The environment is not the sole factor explaining skin color.

Plus, the sun is not the only environmental factor.

Like I've said, the Khoisan are more affected by the sun than many Nigerians because of the desert.

Even the map you've posted shows that many people in central Africa have lighter skin, even if they LITERALLY live under the equator line.

true. diet can also affect skin color. for example the inuit in canada had darker skin than europeans eventhough their ancestors lived in a colder less sun rich climate than europe. scientists were confused as to why they were darker than europeans even though they were farther north. the reason white people have light skin is because the farther north you go the less sunlight. our bodies need vitamin D from the sunlight to live. and with dark skin, you get less vitamin D from the weak norther sunlight. so what the dark skin ancestors of white people did is evolve lighter skin to get more vitamin D. what the sceintists discovered is that the inuit had a fish rich diet which supplemented their vitamin D needs. thus they didn't need to evolve lighter skin like europeans to get the vitamin D they needed from the weak northern sunlight.


BTW I have no idea why you keep going on and on about deserts. Deserts aren't deserts because they get more sunlight. Deserts are deserts because of a lack of water. just because you have a desert doesn't mean the sunlight is more intense. it just means the place lacks water.
 

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true. diet can also affect skin color. for example the inuit in canada had darker skin than europeans eventhough their ancestors lived in a colder less sun rich climate than europe. scientists were confused as to why they were darker than europeans even though they were farther north. the reason white people have light skin is because the farther north you go the less sunlight. our bodies need vitamin D from the sunlight to live. and with dark skin, you get less vitamin D from the weak norther sunlight. so what the dark skin ancestors of white people did is evolve lighter skin to get more vitamin D. what the sceintists discovered is that the inuit had a fish rich diet which supplemented their vitamin D needs. thus they didn't need to evolve lighter skin like europeans to get the vitamin D they needed from the weak northern sunlight.


BTW I have no idea why you keep going on and on about deserts. Deserts aren't deserts because they get more sunlight. Deserts are deserts because of a lack of water. just because you have a desert doesn't mean the sunlight is more intense. it just means the place lacks water.

I'm talking about deserts cause it's important when you're talking about the sun's effects.

This map is about the intensity of solar radiation.

As you can see, the radiation is more important in deserts, like the Kalahari where Khoisans live.
irradiation_solaire_monde.jpg
 
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thats because you had indians in east africa and blacks in india. some of you need to get ya heads outta the sand. two groups living in the same enviroment don't magically look different from one another.

the indians with africans features in india are descended from africans that were brought during the arab slave trade. there are even older generations that came during trade expeditions. same thing with indians in east africa. there is a long history of trade alongside the east coast of africa of trade ports and cities founded by africans and non-africans.

sorry bruh but indian looking east africans don't just magically come outta nowhere and neither do black looking indians. those people are mixed.
Indian looking east Africans ain't the norm or majority of the population and their mix is easily identified like in Zanzibar/Tanzania but they hardly figure at all in the larger populace outside those traditional coastal trade ports. In fact I seen more Arab mixes than Indian in East Africa, Indians came later than them and the Portuguese
 

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This "mixed" obsession is getting out of hands.

This.

Fake ass "militants" so stuck on colorism it's ridiculous. Either it's cuz they insecure and covet what this system props up (European standards of beauty) or they seek to chastise anybody Black who may be or may have a "mixed" past in order to create this false standard of Black authenticity for them to follow which ironically enough is dictated by the same standard that they seem to hate so much.

@BarNone wtf is this even doin in HL? :wtfdylan:
 

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Indian looking east Africans ain't the norm or majority of the population and their mix is easily identified like in Zanzibar/Tanzania but they hardly figure at all in the larger populace outside those traditional coastal trade ports. In fact I seen more Arab mixes than Indian in East Africa, Indians came later than them and the Portuguese
them nikkas get mistaken for indian all the time:childplease: i didnt say they were mixed with indian but there are some clear similarities my point is this race system is inconsistent as fuk,got indians that are darker than me yet im supposed to be the black one cuz i got nappy hair:mjlol:
 
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who gives a fukk

I suppose it depends on the intentions of those trying to typecast Africans. Notice that those who claim Igbos, Bini, etc have to be mixed race have a nefarious agenda. Debunking the myth removes some of the supporet for their shytty arguments.

not all Africans live on the equator. unfortunately for the Igbo they do. and thus their light skin is most likely the result of admixture.

true. the bushmen are a perfect example. HOWEVER for tribes living near the equator, light skin should not exist. the fact some igbos are light skin means they probably are mixed. their neighbors the yoroba definitely ain't light skinned.

the only way two groups that live side by side can look different is if one has genes different than the other.

usually places on earth near the equator get the most sunshine hence greater ultraviolet radiation hence the reason melanin evolved in the first place to protect us from skin cancer. the further you get from the equator the less exposure to the sun and the less need for melanin and dark skin. its the reason people on earth get lighter the further you move from the equator.

since nigeria is near the equator, that means most folks native to there should be dark skinned.....and they are. if a minority of people in nigeria are light skin, then i believe its a reasonable hypothesis to believe they are mixed. it makes no sense BIOLOGICALLY for all the neighbors of the Igbo to be dark skin and they only be light skin. unless their tribe recently moved into nigeria from farther north, they should also be dark skin.

thats cause they have straight hair. black means not only dark skin but also kinky/curly hair. thus the aborigines in austrailia and papau new guinea are black but the south asians are not.

Are you... like ... a crazy person? I realise that there's a certain amount of irony involved in asking a crazy person if they are in fact crazy, but what the fukk? Anyway, starting from the bottom quote.

Picture of Australian Aborigine:
australia-aborigines-460.jpg


Notice the hair? This is of course ignoring the fact that Australian Aborigines are genetically more distant to Black Africans than Sri Lankans. Perhaps your worldview on racial classification is warped and wrong?

Second, many parts of the Middle East are hotter than regions in Africa, including Nigeria. That hasn't resulted in the Arabs turning "black", so, perhaps there may be more at play than your po-dog understanding of genetics. Bear in mind that outside of the North, many (most?) parts of Nigeria are temperate. Also, several of the neighbours of the Igbos have a high number of their members that are in fact, a lighter shade of Black. Edo people, Ijaws, Urhobo, etc. Basically, you know nothing about Nigeria.

Finally, it'd be nice if you didn't try to imply that the Igbos aren't truly African or Nigerian. IT's implicit in the way you've couched your remarks about their supposed difference from their neighbours. There's no evidence to suggest there has been a genetic change caused by a party external to Africa.
 
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I suppose it depends on the intentions of those trying to typecast Africans. Notice that those who claim Igbos, Bini, etc have to be mixed race have a nefarious agenda. Debunking the myth removes some of the supporet for their shytty arguments.









Are you... like ... a crazy person? I realise that there's a certain amount of irony involved in asking a crazy person if they are in fact crazy, but what the fukk? Anyway, starting from the bottom quote.

Picture of Australian Aborigine:
australia-aborigines-460.jpg


Notice the hair? This is of course ignoring the fact that Australian Aborigines are genetically more distant to Black Africans than Sri Lankans. Perhaps your worldview on racial classification is warped and wrong?

Second, many parts of the Middle East are hotter than regions in Africa, including Nigeria. That hasn't resulted in the Arabs turning "black", so, perhaps there may be more at play than your po-dog understanding of genetics. Bear in mind that outside of the North, many (most?) parts of Nigeria are temperate. Also, several of the neighbours of the Igbos have a high number of their members that are in fact, a lighter shade of Black. Edo people, Ijaws, Urhobo, etc. Basically, you know nothing about Nigeria.

Finally, it'd be nice if you didn't try to imply that the Igbos aren't truly African or Nigerian. IT's implicit in the way you've couched your remarks about their supposed difference from their neighbours. There's no evidence to suggest there has been a genetic change caused by a party external to Africa.

the aborigines are part of the same as the peoples that populated papau new guinea and many of the melenisian islands. they might have more curly/wavy hair. but their brothers across the pacific mostly have kinky/nappy hair like most Africans.






 
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I'm talking about deserts cause it's important when you're talking about the sun's effects.

This map is about the intensity of solar radiation.

As you can see, the radiation is more important in deserts, like the Kalahari where Khoisans live.
irradiation_solaire_monde.jpg


interesting find. remember the bushmen used to occupy almost all of Africa. its possibly the bushmen who presently live in the Kalahari only got there a few hundred or thousand years ago. not enough time for the skin to darken yet. its possibly our light skin bushmen used to occupy the cooler parts of africa.
 
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