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Geno Smith Or Mark Sanchez?
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King Crimson
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Basically.
whats BAP?
How?
you draft a viable quaterback. one that YOU believe in
and you build ya team. you can win in this league with a strong defense
but fukk it.....im a pats fan....keep drafting QBs every year lmaoooo
Maybe yall could line up
This isnt the 90's anymore you cant win with Trent Dilfer and a great defnese the leagues geard towards offense there are no great defenses anymore the team that won the super bowsl this year gave up 500 total yards in the game and still won
You need either an eltie qb or at least a very good one who can make huge plays in todays nfl,conservative run first defense led teams dont win titles anymore its a different league
I'd start Sanchez through half the season, wrap it up with Geno. One, it shows that you're giving Sanchez a chance, but it also takes all the pressure of Geno, and keeps him favorable in the eyes of the fans. If Geno is seen as being responsible for blowing the season Jets fans will turn on him right quick. If its on Sanchez, then they will just be happy to see Geno in. He'll have less pressure, and will be allowed to mature as a player more naturally.
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NYC Rebel
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whats BAP?
How?
you draft a viable quaterback. one that YOU believe in
and you build ya team. you can win in this league with a strong defense
but fukk it.....im a pats fan....keep drafting QBs every year lmaoooo
we bout to flip Ryan Mallett for a 1st - 2nd round pick just like we did with Matt Cassel
Maybe yall could line up
Look at the Skins. They'll be able to get good value for Cousins when trading him.
I want that type of problem.
This is the new age NFL. You draft QBs until you find one.
McTwerk
Dreams and Nightmares
Without a doubt you start Geno. Sanchez is gone next year, regardless of how Geno does. Why hold back his progression a year? If you are trying to rebuild, you put the young QB out there and let him take his licks and learn in game speed. He will be that much further along next year, have some chemistry with guys (S. Hill, J. Kerley). Next year you focus on getting some additional weapons around him. That is how you build a cohesive offense.
football is not a sport like basketball where u can judge 1 single player without looking at the rest of the team. with that said, mark is not as bad as he has played the last 2 seasons. the problem is, the jets put way too much confidence on him before he earned it. when they let alan faneca and thomas jones go they were saying "we have our franchise qb" but the thing was he only played decent because the running game and defense were so good.
too much confidence in schottenheimer and sanchez pretty much ruined sanchez and his already delicate and fragile ego.
now im not saying he's even a good qb, but im willing to bet if u were to force sanchez on belichick, sanchez would not only play as good as matt cassel did that one season, but better. u have to know how to build around what u have and not assume they will be better before they prove it.
they need to get back to running, pure and simple. run, run, run and let mark throw 20 passes a game at most and he wouldnt seem so bad. but when u have him throwing 50 times a game (that game against the giants 2 seasons ago
) u are asking for a disaster. he isnt that kind of qb. his first 2 seasons, he did pretty well managing the offense(for a rookie and 2nd year guy) and he ended up with a 4-2 on the road playoff record and iirc a 65% completion percentage in the playoffs. 2 year in a row. a horrible qb would not be able to do that. he may not have led us there, but he didnt fukk it all up either.
i say give mark 1 last shot if u commit to run the ball more, but if u gonna pass more than run, just let geno sling it. we might end up in the clowney sweepstakes either way
too much confidence in schottenheimer and sanchez pretty much ruined sanchez and his already delicate and fragile ego.
now im not saying he's even a good qb, but im willing to bet if u were to force sanchez on belichick, sanchez would not only play as good as matt cassel did that one season, but better. u have to know how to build around what u have and not assume they will be better before they prove it.
they need to get back to running, pure and simple. run, run, run and let mark throw 20 passes a game at most and he wouldnt seem so bad. but when u have him throwing 50 times a game (that game against the giants 2 seasons ago
) u are asking for a disaster. he isnt that kind of qb. his first 2 seasons, he did pretty well managing the offense(for a rookie and 2nd year guy) and he ended up with a 4-2 on the road playoff record and iirc a 65% completion percentage in the playoffs. 2 year in a row. a horrible qb would not be able to do that. he may not have led us there, but he didnt fukk it all up either. i say give mark 1 last shot if u commit to run the ball more, but if u gonna pass more than run, just let geno sling it. we might end up in the clowney sweepstakes either way
Spaceman Piff
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sanchez, at his best, is a game manager with a penchant for turning the ball over.
that's worst qb in the league type attributes.
any qb will play better if they're put into a better situation. that's not really indicative of sanchez's talents.
why bother giving another opportunity to a quarterback whose ceiling is "well if the jets run more and have an elite defense.."
that's worst qb in the league type attributes.
any qb will play better if they're put into a better situation. that's not really indicative of sanchez's talents.
why bother giving another opportunity to a quarterback whose ceiling is "well if the jets run more and have an elite defense.."
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
the problem is that (and I'm using the excuse every Fez fan wants to use for his performance) the Jets need other things as well. That 2nd rounder coulda been a WR, a RB, a TE, O-Line, a corner that we know won't be Revis but can still be good, etc. We used it on someone that may not ever see the field and won't have the balls to keep over Bridgewater or the others should we choose that high, which we will.
Drafting Geno works if you think the team's on its way up. The Jets are still on their way down
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Geno will never have to worry about this.
And as far as giving Fez a chance, at this point you almost don't want him to succeed. What's the gain?
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
It's a need, obviously, but I'm also looking at it from a bigger picture perspective. The team isn't yet set up for a young QB to come in and succeed while developing. Too much dead weight. Another year of "transitioning" which the team said this would be, new coach, new GM is already here, way more cap space, and a boatload of picks. We'd be better suited to surround a QB like Bridgewater next year than Geno right now.
