Georgia democratic politician says identity politics destroyed the Georgia Democratic Party and its ability to win. Thoughts?

[Pull Up the Roots]

It’s a numbers game.

Give me the numbers you need to win and I’ll give you your props.

It won’t matter cause all these red states are about to remove “black” seats anyways so you are gonna have a tougher time trying to double down on “race” to win this issue.

I get it. De-centering yourself is uncomfortable but its about to get rocky, so….are you ready?

I'm not negotiating the premise that Black people are the problem.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not negotiating the premise that Black people are the problem.

The Supreme Court will issue an opinion next summer undermining the voting rights act.

The Congressional Black Caucus is about to lose up to 1/3rd of its members.

You will HAVE to negotiate a different set of prior assumptions and political expecations

I’m just giving you a heads up.

 

[HiphopRelated]

We already said run on ECONOMIC POPULISM, but the Dems won't because their donors won't allow them to. But hey, blame the gays and whatever "others" that are "costing" you elections....those others will include YOU.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

read the article and tell me if thats what she said

She did. This was her conclusion after blaming Black people for everything:

Next, every Democrat should write down the following words and put it on a Post-it note or piece of paper where they can see it every day: “I want to win.”
Then, they should give Geoff Duncan a second look.

Bear in mind Duncan was "kicked" out of the Republican party early this year, then registered as a Democrat to run for Governor. Granted, he urged Republicans to vote for Biden in 2024, and endorsed Harris. Still, his past policy positions and votes should not be ignored. Light-switch candidates like that cannot truly be trusted.

Identity politics allows democrats to get away with doing nothing for voters by providing a moral victory to white people and minorities. White people get the sense of moral supremacy that in supporting a disabled black woman in an election they can say they're a Good Person who supports progressive thought/ideals. Minorities get to see themselves in positions, including positions of power, and it reinforces support in the party. The problem is that these candidates primary don't do anything for the communities they come from, they often don't get leadership positions once they get to congress, and their role is largely about symbolism (or tokenism).

A few months ago the first/only trans woman (democrat) in congress voted against an affordable housing bill. She also does not support universal healthcare. She actively votes against policies that help her marginalized community because the party line dictates it. Well...what's the point in being there? Same applies to the Black Caucus. If you're just a doormat for the same policies, why do you need to exist? Why shouldn't a white guy just get the seat?

End result: a party that doesn't get much done, constantly waving these losers in your face saying see look, here's a loud black woman who is just like you (Crockett)! Here's a black guy from the tough streets of NY who is just like you (Jeffries)!

If the argument is that representation without results is insufficient, then we agree. But dismissing representation altogether by claiming it only produces "moral supremacy" for white voters and empty symbolism for minorities is inaccurate. I think the real issue is not whether marginalized people should be in power, but whether any elected official, regardless of identity, is legislating in the interest of the people they represent. Do we want accountability, or accountability based solely on identity?

And are you talking about Sarah McBride? I couldn't find any evidence to support your claim about those votes. I couldn't find anything to support the claim that she doesn't support Universal Healthcare, either. Matter of fact, her stance is that healthcare is a human right.

Priorities — Sarah McBride

www.sarahmcbride.com

Health care is a human right. In the wealthiest nation on earth, any person left without health coverage is a moral failing. In Congress, I will support any positive policy that advances our country toward the ultimate goal of universal coverage. At a minimum, we should expand Medicare to cover dental, vision, and hearing while lowering the age of eligibility and providing a public option.

The fight does not end with universal coverage. No one should have to choose between their job and getting the care they need, which is why in Congress I will fight for guaranteed paid sick time and paid family and medical leave.

From nurses and physician assistants to dentists and physicians, health care providers are the backbone of our health care system. Everyone should be able to access a quality provider near them, regardless of whether you live in a small town in Sussex or just north of Wilmington. As I have successfully done in the legislature, I will support our health care workforce by bringing investments to Delaware for education and career support.

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/195142/sarah-mcbride

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/195142/sarah-mcbride

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

She did. This was her conclusion after blaming Black people for everything:



Bear in mind Duncan was "kicked" out of the Republican party early this year, then registered as a Democrat to run for Governor. Granted, he urged Republicans to vote for Biden in 2024, and endorsed Harris. Still, his past policy positions and votes should not be ignored. Light-switch candidates like that cannot truly be trusted.



If the argument is that representation without results is insufficient, then we agree. But dismissing representation altogether by claiming it only produces "moral supremacy" for white voters and empty symbolism for minorities is inaccurate. I think the real issue is not whether marginalized people should be in power, but whether any elected official, regardless of identity, is legislating in the interest of the people they represent. Do we want accountability, or accountability based solely on identity?

And are you talking about Sarah McBride? I couldn't find any evidence to support your claim about those votes. I couldn't find anything to support the claim that she doesn't support Universal Healthcare, either. Matter of fact, her stance is that healthcare is a human right.

Priorities — Sarah McBride

www.sarahmcbride.com

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/195142/sarah-mcbride

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/195142/sarah-mcbride

Keisha lance Bottoms is not going to be governor. So we should be asking who or what is permitting her to waste people’s time with this shyt and for the democratic party to get real and hunker down on real issues and real strategies to win elections.

You seem to be confused with the issue at hand.

What will you do if democrats stop emphasizing race?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Keisha lance Bottoms is not going to be governor. So we should be asking who or what is permitting her to waste people’s time with this shyt and for the democratic party to get real and hunker down on real issues and real strategies to win elections.

You seem to be confused with the issue at hand.

What will you do if democrats stop emphasizing race?

The thing you don't seem to get is that if Democrats stop emphasizing race (they don't really do this anyway), they'll still be facing the same structural problems. Voter suppression doesn't stop, gerrymandering doesn't stop, racialized messaging that stokes white resentment doesn't stop, and a base that votes along white identity lines doesn't just disappear, or suddenly wake up and start valuing their material well-being over their place in the racial hierarchy.

I'm not confused. I'm pointing out that the responsibility actually lies with the people and systems resisting these things, not the people trying to make democracy work.

 

[SpikeLee Cumbersmith]

I listen to channels like the Bulwark, Lincoln project etc.. But i also listen to to the Seneca project. The latter being a Black woman. What i realized is that these groups want to co-op the Democratic party.
These groups have work to do to reclaim the republican party, but they are unwilling to do the work. They want to take the easy way out and co op the Democrats party. Why? Because corporate democrats only want a win.
Sometimes you have to lose to win.
I started school in 1966, there's a reason for me to say this. We were the " identity politics" of that era.
The struggle is at the state level and it is the fight over redistricting.

 

[Ski Mask]

Vote blue no matter who even if its blue maga too. I saw this coming a mile away and the shills aren't slick by making it seem like it was just the lgbtq, no they mean black politics too. only identity politics allowed in this climate is "christian"

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

This dude really had the nerve to say this.

@the cac mamba You know what? I think the only ethnic group white conservatives care about is…black issues. Everyone else can kinda kick rocks. I think theres a shared history there and republicans can be persuaded on that, to the extent they can. They really dont fukk with anyone else beyond that or anyone who is obsessively compliant.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This dude really had the nerve to say this.

black and white issues have a shared history in the country. I didn’t say racism doesn't exist…except that I think white sympathy doesn’t extend beyond black issues.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The thing you don't seem to get is that if Democrats stop emphasizing race (they don't really do this anyway), they'll still be facing the same structural problems. Voter suppression doesn't stop, gerrymandering doesn't stop, racialized messaging that stokes white resentment doesn't stop, and a base that votes along white identity lines doesn't just disappear, or suddenly wake up and start valuing their material well-being over their place in the racial hierarchy.

I'm not confused. I'm pointing out that the responsibility actually lies with the people and systems resisting these things, not the people trying to make democracy work.

Hey, just clear this up for me.

Do you support biological males in women’s sports?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

black and white issues have a shared history in the country. I didn’t say racism doesn't exist…except that I think white sympathy doesn’t extend beyond black issues.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Have you ever lived in Georgia or a red state?

 

[daemonova]

We discussed this already.

Outside six counties, Georgia white as shyt.

You have to sell something to the white counties they want

Dekalb
Rockdale
Newton
Clayton
Douglas
Henry

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We discussed this already.

Outside six counties, Georgia white as shyt.

You have to sell something to the white counties they want

Dekalb
Rockdale
Newton
Clayton
Douglas
Henry

north georgia has over 2/3rds of the population