Giannis did what Bron was S'posed to do

[Yayo Toure]

Lebron plays in an offensive system in which he’s pounding the ball all game


Any superstar can put up numbers playing like that

Next.

Plus we've seen that man play garbage time to pad his stats. Idgaf how many 40 point games he has in the finals when he's been to the finals so many times and has lost so many. It's like saying Jerry Stackhouse was an elite scorer because he put up big numbers when his team was garbage.

 

[steph_harden]

Man stop

Kyrie is better than Jrue and Middy

Kyrie’s finals was better but Middleton had a better overall playoff run than Kyrie ever had.

Middleton will never be seen as a superstar no matter what cause he doesn’t have a face for tv…he’s an ugly ass nikka who u can’t market. But the nikka’s game is butter…and even when he’s not shooting it well he’s giving elite defense, rebounding and playmaking. Those things make him a better overall player than Cleveland Kyrie

Add Jrue holiday in the mix and that’s a strong ass 2/3 for any squad

 

[Yayo Toure]

With LeBron it's always but this, but that - his fans constantly ignore his deficiencies as a player and a leader.

There is no but this, but that with Giannis - his coach sucks and his #2 and #3 guys weren't that great yesterday. Didn't matter he dropped 50 and brought it home. You are now witnessing greatness, not fakeness.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They really trotted 33 year old Jamison out there like it was all good.

Next thing you know Kevin Garnett started looking young again

I think I told @Rhakim this before, but Jamison made sense on paper. However, they didnt really spread the floor like you'd hope. And then Jamison shot 19% from 3 against the Celtics. Making him a liability. He was food defensively to KG.

Jamison's falloff against the Celtics is something no one ever talks about with those playoffs @Edub @smitty22

Jamison's problem was that he had fukked-up form that he hit at a mediocre rate (34% on threes). I think the Cavs front office assumed that with Bron's gravity he'd hit shots at a higher rate like other shooters that joined the team (maybe 37-38%). But instead, his fukked-up form collapsed under playoff pressure and he couldn't hit shyt at all (25%). That's what you get for trying to rely on a guy who had only made it out of the first round once in his entire career. Add in the fact that he couldn't defend KG at all and it was a wrap.

 

[Ozymandeas]

LeBron fans on life support.

Giannis shytted on LeBrons whole legacy. Overcame shytty coaching, inconsistent teammates and led his team to a title. No begging to get guys suspended, no media narratives, just hard work and leadership.

The NBA is in good hands with Giannis as the face of the league.

Bron Stans in shambles

 

[cartierhoe]

Jamison's problem was that he had fukked-up form that he hit at a mediocre rate (34% on threes). I think the Cavs front office assumed that with Bron's gravity he'd hit shots at a higher rate like other shooters that joined the team (maybe 37-38%). But instead, his fukked-up form collapsed under playoff pressure and he couldn't hit shyt at all (25%). That's what you get for trying to rely on a guy who had only made it out of the first round once in his entire career. Add in the fact that he couldn't defend KG at all and it was a wrap.

Thoughts on Giannis Finals run? I don't wanna get into the stan shyt I know the Cavs didn't get Bron good help the first time around I just wanna genuinely know your thoughts breh.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They were in the hunt for Ray Allen that year too. Ended up with Hughes

I didn't mention Ray Allen cause I don't think they had a real chance to get him. But Redd low-key would have been better off signing with the Cavs. They offered him 5 years / $70 million, instead he took 6 years / $90 million to stay with the Bucks and that was the last real contract he signed. If he had taken the Cavs offer instead he could have been the #2 on a potential title team and opted out after 4 years to sign a nice 2nd contract that would have made up for the $20 million he left on the table.

 

[Flex Luger]

nikkas can't congratulate Giannis without somehow bringing up Lebron, huh?

They sick man. Giannis led his team to a title and they run on here to make a thread about a dude that got bounced in the first round.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Thoughts on Giannis Finals run? I don't wanna get into the stan shyt I know the Cavs didn't get Bron good help the first time around I just wanna genuinely know your thoughts breh.

He played great. In terms of competition it was a weak run but he beat the teams that were in front of him and did it with superstar-level play.

I think it ups his legacy a lot cause he took all the skills we knew he had and applied them in the Finals on the biggest stage. That elevates him historically far beyond his regular season accolades. But at the same time he still has a lot of weaknesses that he only got a pass on this time around because competition was weak and his teammates balling out, so it remain to be seen whether he can replicate it in future years. Like I pointed out before, if KD's toe is behind the line or if Middleton doesn't carry the team in the ECF, then the narrative on Giannis wouldn't have changed at all.

 

[steph_harden]

Imagine if Michael Redd had signed with Cleveland instead of Larry Hughes.

Redd averaged 26ppg the next two years on 45/40/85 splits despite no one to take defensive pressure off him...with all the open shots from Bron's gravity he would have been fukking ridiculous.


Delonte / Boobie
Redd / Sasha
Bron
Gooden / Varejao
Jefferson / Z

These cats don’t remember Michael “bombs over Baghdad” Redd

That nikka was a top 3 shooter/scorer of his era. His worse move was resigning with the Bucks…or was it that they matched his offer sheet. Either way his career goes completely different on the Cavs. They coulda won a championship

 

[Drip Bayless]

It's so clear dudes on this site don't actually watch ball or are trolling
Commentary on here has devolved to instagram comment levels
Lowkey fútbol discussion is far better than the basketball talk even though way more people on here watch basketball
The Bron obsession is still wild to me though, I've never seen anything like this in sports, it's a percentage of dudes who is literally on that man penis 24/7

 

[10bandz]

The Bucks traded for Middleton hoping he and Giannis would become this. I'm not understanding what this post means.

you LeGBT nikkas are pathetic. The Bucks traded for Khris Middleton, a 2nd round pick after he put up 6 ppg in his rookie season. He didnt even start every game his first two seasons on the Bucks. He was 22 when he arrived. Dont act like Giannis and Khris were always destined to be some title winning force

Giannis and Khris built for YEARS from the baby years and won a title something KD failed to do with Westbrook and something Bron failed to do in general

 

[Shadow King]

you LeGBT nikkas are pathetic. The Bucks traded for Khris Middleton, a 2nd round pick after he put up 6 ppg in his rookie season. He didnt even start every game his first two seasons on the Bucks. He was 22 when he arrived. Dont act like Giannis and Khris were always destined to be some title winning force

Giannis and Khris built for YEARS from the baby years and won a title something KD failed to do with Westbrook and something Bron failed to do in general

Plenty of All-Star+ players wasn't shyt in their rookie year. Plenty of teams was also shortsighted enough to pass on a potential Pippen/D-Rob hybrid.

The Bucks built correctly around Giannis. The Cavaliers never did. You know this though but keep disrespecting your daddy's wishes anyway.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

These cats don’t remember Michael “bombs over Baghdad” Redd

That nikka was a top 3 shooter/scorer of his era. His worse move was resigning with the Bucks…or was it that they matched his offer sheet. Either way his career goes completely different on the Cavs. They coulda won a championship

He was an UFA that year, coulda signed with the Cavs if he wanted to.



So much fukked-up stuff happened that year that low-key killed Bron's entire first Cleveland run:

* Started 6-19 (partly cause Ricky Davis was fukking around a lot)

* DaJuan Wagner's health took a nosedive

* Ricky Davis, Chris Mihm, and Darius Miles were traded away for basically nothing.

* Cavs rallied but missed the playoffs by just 1 game

* Drafted Luke Jackson at #10

* Owner fukked up huge and let Boozer go for nothing

* Failed to sign Michael Redd

* Signed Larry Hughes



Imagine an alternative reality where Wagner doesn't get sick, Boozer isn't let out of his contract, Redd signs, Cavs draft an actual contributor at #10, and Ricky Davis/Darius Miles are traded for useful rotation pieces....Cavs could have been STACKED. Instead Bron was out there 2 years later making the finals with Boobie fukking Gibson as his #2 option.

 

[Ozymandeas]

@duncanthetall why you negging me. You really think that’s going to change anybody’s opinion about Bron breh?