Giannis is this era's Admiral, until further notice...

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Bruh playin PF/C is much like playin WR, u will seldom see that position be able to jus carry an offense by themselves that’s why when they do we applaud em so much

Giannis may be good on that fast break but he’s clearly not a player who can jus set up an offense, truth is he’s closer to Shaq than anyone we’ve seen since then, he just isn’t playin wit a Penny, Kobe or D Wade. Ask yourself what happened in the playoff series Shaq wasn’t playing with another HOF talent, there’s only so much a paint dominant big can do
Before the last 3 seasons and during them, all we hear is how the Bucks are one of the favorites. Then we watch them flame out again and again. And then the excuses come again and again. No one made excuses for KG. Dwight use to get killed because of his limited offensive skillset. Giannis though doesn't have enough help:stopitslime:
 

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Before the last 3 seasons and during them, all we hear is how the Bucks are one of the favorites. Then we watch them flame out again and again. And then the excuses come again and again. No one made excuses for KG. Dwight use to get killed because of his limited offensive skillset. Giannis though doesn't have enough help:stopitslime:
U are sayin “because other players were criticized for not having a certain skillset offensively let’s apply the same criticisms to Giannis”

that’s that stupid shyt that nikkas be talkin bout when it comes to basketball discussion, it’s clear KG wasn’t the problem wit the Wolves that’s why he succeeded elsewhere, Dwight had as team much success as the best scorers in the league so wat are we arguing

nikkas think cuz they sayin Giannis is not a go to scorer they sayin something Law, u will find out how dominant Giannis is when he has a true playmaker

there’s only 1 pf/center in last 40 years to dominate on a level higher than Giannis without a playmaker with him and that’s Hakeem and nobody is comparing Giannis to him. Talk like this is why these nikkas are building super teams, hard to point out a weakness when u playin wit the best players in the league
 
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Before the last 3 seasons and during them, all we hear is how the Bucks are one of the favorites. Then we watch them flame out again and again. And then the excuses come again and again. No one made excuses for KG. Dwight use to get killed because of his limited offensive skillset. Giannis though doesn't have enough help:stopitslime:
With Middleton shooting 35 -40%

and Eric Bledsoe.
 

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Not a bad comparison
Admiral was more skilled, so the playoff futility was harder to explain. I believe that he lacked the extra competitive gear.

Even as a number 2. When paired with Duncan, in playoff matchup against Shaq and Lakers he would vanish. Shaq didn't really have a chance defensively against DRob. Even at an advanced age. He had the face up game and shooting range, but just folded against Shaq.

How long are we gonna say this about Giannis? Teams defend him the same way every year and he comes back the same way the following season. His j has gotten slightly better the last 3 years but clearly not to a point where opponents view it as a threat...



Bruh some of these dudes in here are completely dense. nikkas took this thread as a shytting on Robinson thread, clearly we have a ton of slow posters on here that contribute to the lack of quality basketball discussion...

I didn't really get to see Robinson but I'm somewhat of a historian so I knew the questions about his competitive fire have been out there since he was in his prime. And it's one of the more perplexing things because he walked in the door lighting The League on fire, lotta people think he had all the tools to be greater than he actually was!

Yeah “The Admiral” had more skills on the offensive end. The only edge I give to Giannis is he’s a better ball handler than Admiral was.

The Admiral use to routinely come up short against Olajuwon, Karl Malone, and other guys of that era when it counted.

People kinda forget about it because Duncan came in and carried him to a couple of championships when he was on the decline. If Duncan was drafted to Boston which was originally looking like it might happen until they fell in the draft you are looking at the Admiral now like a lot of people look at Barkley today.

Giannis is either going to have to change his playing style and develop a reliable jumper which is probably not going to happen at this point (I think he is what he is at that point in his career) or he is going to have play with an elite shooting guard or small forward that can create his own shot and knock down shots in the clutch.

One thing you guys are forgetting is that DRob's supporting cast was bad, in his prime. Who was he with? Vinny Del Negro? Avery Johnson? He was outplayed by Hakeem, but literally had no help. He had Rodman, but his effectiveness is obviously limited for reasons we all know.

Giannis has an actual good supporting cast. His lack of offensive skill has held them back and killed them in the playoffs the last 3 years.
 

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One thing you guys are forgetting is that DRob's supporting cast was bad, in his prime. Who was he with? Vinny Del Negro? Avery Johnson? He was outplayed by Hakeem, but literally had no help. He had Rodman, but his effectiveness is obviously limited for reasons we all know.

Giannis has an actual good supporting cast. His lack of offensive skill has held them back and killed them in the playoffs the last 3 years.

I'm not gonna argue that Robinson had one of the greatest rosters of that period but it wasn't garbage. Sean Elliott was a 2x All-Star in this era with Robinson and for all intents and purposes, considering it was a slower-paced, more defensively-inclined era, Elliott was the equivalent to Khris Middleton and certainly wasn't some bum, so there's another Giannis/Rob comp (the Middleton/Elliott parallel)...

Those Spurs were also Top 10 units on both ends of the court for a 4-year consecutive stretch from 1992-96 which sounds very similar to Giannis' Bucks of the last 3 years; no one was calling those Spurs rosters trash in the moment. And Robinson's Spurs were an elite defensive team this entire period I defined (his first 8 years)....and yet routinely played subpar despite this every postseason and having easily one of the Top 5 players of the time anchoring their squad...

There's always multiple reasons teams lose so the point isn't that Admiral was the lone reason, ots that HE routinely played below the standards of his regular season self once the Spurs actually had an elite playoff opponent abd stayed getting upstaged by the superstar on the opponent...

Sounds a lot like Giannis and the funny thing is Admiral was shytted on more in real time than Giannis is now, there wasn't all this deflection to his teammates...

Giannis having an Admiral-esque career thru 8 years means he's on an easily HOF-trajectory and likely will end up fairly high on All-Time boards when he retires, but it also means his own limitations at being able to raise his game in the postseason will ultimately impact how his career is viewed in retrospect. He not even getting killed like that, look at this board and the people who deflect blame from him, and look around TV and social media. He gets a minor amount of criticism compared to other players of his caliber and certainly compared to what Admiral got in real time----->time will be less forgiving to Giannis unless he reverses this trend...

There's nothing disrespectful about comparing a 2x MVP (who accomplished that by the age of 25) to The Admiral.

This thread just proves the board is overrepresented by a bunch of contextless, comprehension-lacking ass dudes...
 

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In real time very little, if any, people cared about David Robinson

He was the guy that everyone mentioned as a good player just because we felt obligated to for whatever reason and respected his service

Empty stat machine that got carried by a true goat to a ring. Could he have had better casts? Sure. But that could be said of most stars in any era. His scoring title was a joke and then he intentionally stayed out of games to tank. And lost almost every series that mattered until he was a dusty role playing shell of himself

The era's admiral is closer to Karl Anthony Towns than Giannis

No way you watched D Rob play one second of nba basketball with this take :mjlol:

"Empty stats machine" but made the playoffs 7 out of 8 years before Duncan got there :mjlol:

How many all stars did D Rob play with before Timmy got there ? How many all nba players did he play with ? I bet you can't name 5 of his teammates before Timmy without doing your googles :mjlol:

DRob came up getting buckets against all time great defenders like Mutumbo, Ewing, and Hakeem, but people in this thread comparing him to a dude who can't get consistent buckets against Nic Claxton :mjlol:

This is rapidly turning into one of the worst threads on the coli and that is saying something:mjlol:

D Rob must have fukked some of your mothers or something cause he got to be one of the most disrespected players ever mentioned on the coli :mjlol:

Closer to Karl Anthony Towns who consistently puts up numbers on one of the worst teams in the nba but in real life D Rob led an annual playoff team in virtuall every statistical category every year :mjlol:
 
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