Gilbert Arenas' Basketball Opinions Thread

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Sccit said:
YOU DO REALIZE UR SOME1S MOUTHPIECE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SOME1 WHO DOESNT HAVE THE COURAGE TO STEP UP TO ME THEMSELVES...DONT BE THIS DUMB BRODIE. SUN VALLEY AINT THE BURBS N YOUR IDOLD COME FROM THE BLOODLINE OF REAL GANGSTERS..AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, MY FLOW IS TREMENDOUS AND RHYME PATTERNS IMPECCABLE. KEEP SLEEPIN N GOSSIPIN WIT INTERNET NERDS THO.
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You're from Woodland Hills...Elior,

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wit da gangsta shyt already.

 
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OG_StankBrefs said:
You're from Woodland Hills...Elior,

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wit da gangsta shyt already.
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YEA WAS RAISED IN THE 818 N I NEVER CLAIMED ANY SET, SO WTF U MEAN "WIT THE GANGSTA SHIIT"? I DONT BANG, BUT TO ACT LIKE THERES NO SETS IN THE SFV N MAKIN IT OUT TO BE BEVERLY HILLS IS PRETTY EURO OF U..WHICH BTW THE NERD WHO MESSAGED U IS MOST LIKELY FROM EUROPE (OFF DUBCC)


AT THE END OF THE DAY, IM A REGULAR CAT FROM THE BLOODLINE OF REAL GANGSTERS WHO MIGRATED HERE FROM ISRAEL WIT THE MOB....BUT U RATHER SIT HERE N SPREAD GOSSIP LIKE A HOE AS OPPOSED TO GO WATCH THE MOVIE BOUT MY FAMILY HISTORY

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Sccit said:
YEA WAS RAISED IN THE 818 N I NEVER CLAIMED ANY SET, SO WTF U MEAN "WIT THE GANGSTA SHIIT"? I DONT BANG, BUT TO ACT LIKE THERES NO SETS IN THE SFV N MAKIN IT OUT TO BE BEVERLY HILLS IS PRETTY EURO OF U..WHICH BTW THE NERD WHO MESSAGED U IS MOST LIKELY FROM EUROPE (OFF DUBCC)


AT THE END OF THE DAY, IM A REGULAR CAT FROM THE BLOODLINE OF REAL GANGSTERS WHO MIGRATED HERE FROM ISRAEL WIT THE MOB....BUT U RATHER SIT HERE N SPREAD GOSSIP LIKE A HOE AS OPPOSED TO GO WATCH THE MOVIE BOUT MY FAMILY HISTORY

For the Love of Money (2012) - IMDb


IF U WANNA STUDY ME, DO IT RIGHT
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Gossip would infer me to be lying. And from your own admissions & knee jerk reactions, dat's obviously not da case hea, mate. :francis:
 
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MegaTronBomb! said:
People really overlook that Kobe's athleticism was never off the charts....above average athlete, but elite level basketball IQ,footwork and work ethic
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yes and no.

The truth is, kobe could jump with the best of them at his peak athleticism. now that doesnt mean he's jumping as high in the combine. it means in the event someone needs to get dunked on. kobe can do it right along with the best of them.

kobe's quickness was also up there with the best of them at his position. so again, if kobe needed to out quick someone in his prime athleticism he could.

kobe's speed was way above most people not just at his position but at the guard/perimeter positions period. I've seen him, chase down balls where he was behind guys(smaller quicker guys, as well as the most athletic guys in the nba at the time). and he would out run them to the ball. i've seen this numerous times. this is why i remember these events. i was like wait a second, is that fool kobe that fast? i've seen him beat guys down the court when he was neck and neck with them but he had the ball. everyone knows its harder to run at top speed while dribbling vs a defender chasing you down.

what kobe did not have and he has stated was MONSTER Hands. its not that jordan could jump 50 feet high or vince could jump 50 feet high or lbj could jump 50 feet high. its that those guys can palm the ball with ease(without thinking about it, even when they were younger. kobe had to work on his finger/hand/and forearm strength and concentrate on holding onto the ball(squeezing it). Having monster hands when you're already 6'5+ with hops of any kind is a good night situation for everyone else. its not much they can do to stop you from bashing on them once you get into the paint. because you have the ultimate control over the ball once you leave your feet no matter how much contact you end up getting mid air. this is why jordan could just turn his back and throw up what looked like a miracle flip shot(it wasnt a miracle it was big hands and planned English-spin on that shot). while kobe would go up get hit real hard and start moving the ball with both hands in mid air and leaning back like crazy. contorting his body(i've never seen a player do this as much as i've seen kobe do that with his body..thats the unreal part about kobe in midair collision situations. He was killing the league with smaller hands than all of the greats. what would happen if he had hands like jordan? he would've possibly dropped 50 or dropped the same 40 with a FG% around the 60's. but his jumper probably would've taken a hit. i always wondered if having super large hands hinders a guys ability to shoot the long ball on a consistent basis(while being heavily defended). sure some guys can do it. but most with super big hands cant shoot that well. especially not when being defended. So he would gain higher efficiency in the paint, but less on the outside. and dont quote stats from his jumpers. because those are tightly defended sometimes even fouled while shooting vs lbj or jordan where guys rarely guard them tight that far out.

but this is also why i think kobe is a top 5er at worse. because he did everything he did with less GOd given ability. he unlike mike and bron. MADE himself into who he is for the most part. especially when kobe played. everyone was 6'5+ with super hops, athleticism and crazy long arms. not so when mike was killing the league. and now with lbj, who on earth is that size moving like that? No one. blake is the closest right now.

lbj and jordan are similar in the regard that they get the God given talent bonus for "GOAT" player. while kobe has done the work to be in that conversation. not saying those guys didnt work hard they did. but its certain things they never HAD to do in order to be in the convo due to their from birth abilities.
 
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yes and no.

The truth is, kobe could jump with the best of them at his peak athleticism. now that doesnt mean he's jumping as high in the combine. it means in the event someone needs to get dunked on. kobe can do it right along with the best of them.

kobe's quickness was also up there with the best of them at his position. so again, if kobe needed to out quick someone in his prime athleticism he could.

kobe's speed was way above most people not just at his position but at the guard/perimeter positions period. I've seen him, chase down balls where he was behind guys(smaller quicker guys, as well as the most athletic guys in the nba at the time). and he would out run them to the ball. i've seen this numerous times. this is why i remember these events. i was like wait a second, is that fool kobe that fast? i've seen him beat guys down the court when he was neck and neck with them but he had the ball. everyone knows its harder to run at top speed while dribbling vs a defender chasing you down.

what kobe did not have and he has stated was MONSTER Hands. its not that jordan could jump 50 feet high or vince could jump 50 feet high or lbj could jump 50 feet high. its that those guys can palm the ball with ease(without thinking about it, even when they were younger. kobe had to work on his finger/hand/and forearm strength and concentrate on holding onto the ball(squeezing it). Having monster hands when you're already 6'5+ with hops of any kind is a good night situation for everyone else. its not much they can do to stop you from bashing on them once you get into the paint. because you have the ultimate control over the ball once you leave your feet no matter how much contact you end up getting mid air. this is why jordan could just turn his back and throw up what looked like a miracle flip shot(it wasnt a miracle it was big hands and planned English-spin on that shot). while kobe would go up get hit real hard and start moving the ball with both hands in mid air and leaning back like crazy. contorting his body(i've never seen a player do this as much as i've seen kobe do that with his body..thats the unreal part about kobe in midair collision situations. He was killing the league with smaller hands than all of the greats. what would happen if he had hands like jordan? he would've possibly dropped 50 or dropped the same 40 with a FG% around the 60's. but his jumper probably would've taken a hit. i always wondered if having super large hands hinders a guys ability to shoot the long ball on a consistent basis(while being heavily defended). sure some guys can do it. but most with super big hands cant shoot that well. especially not when being defended. So he would gain higher efficiency in the paint, but less on the outside. and dont quote stats from his jumpers. because those are tightly defended sometimes even fouled while shooting vs lbj or jordan where guys rarely guard them tight that far out.

but this is also why i think kobe is a top 5er at worse. because he did everything he did with less GOd given ability. he unlike mike and bron. MADE himself into who he is for the most part. especially when kobe played. everyone was 6'5+ with super hops, athleticism and crazy long arms. not so when mike was killing the league. and now with lbj, who on earth is that size moving like that? No one. blake is the closest right now.

lbj and jordan are similar in the regard that they get the God given talent bonus for "GOAT" player. while kobe has done the work to be in that conversation. not saying those guys didnt work hard they did. but its certain things they never HAD to do in order to be in the convo due to their from birth abilities.
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GREAT POST, ID REP U IF I COULD
 
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Sccit said:
I THINK U SOMEWHAT MISSED HIS POINT....HE'S PRETTY CLEARLY SAYIN THAT LEBRON WOULD WIN EVEN MORE IF HE WERE MORE "SELFISH". HIS LEGACY IS BASED ON WINNING BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE IT AS THE CLEAR CUT ALPHA DOG YET, SO ALL HE HAS TO FALL BACK ON IS "2 RINGS" (ON LOADED TEAMS)...BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE WOULDNT WIN EVEN MORE IF HE PLAYED TO HIS POTENTIAL. THATS WHY GIL BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT LEBRON NEEDS TO BE CHALLENGED OR PISSED OFF IN ORDER FOR THAT SIDE OF HIM TO COME OUT.
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No. He never said anything about LeBron winning more... again, the yardstick he uses is a Kobe Bryant season where he did not make the playoffs.

Not sure how anyone can take an article seriously that claims LeBron needs to defer to Kyrie Irving. Just silly.
 
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