Glen Greenwald: Dems Are Panicking Because Barr Will Now Investigate Real Conspiracy

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What's Glenn Greenwald background? Is he a liberal?

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Greenwald hates establishment Dems far more than he hates Trump or the GOP. Once you accept that premise, all of his antics make sense. :manny:

Lol at the claim that he’s merely analyzing the Republicans next moves. He is clearly in agreement with their narrative and cheering it on. In any other context it would patently absurd for a “progressive” to unquestionably repeat the claims of Trumps attorney general, but some lefties are willing to throw away their skepticism because it’s Russia that’s under the microscope.

Greenwald initially argued there was no evidence of Russian hacking during the campaign whatsoever, then completely discarded this claim to focus on “no collusion”. Literally two weeks ago he was arguing that if Mueller had a problem with the Barr’s summary he would surely say something publicly - now that his letter has come to light he’s discarded that claim too. There is literally no development that can happen, that won’t stop him from arguing the opposite side. He is a tedious, obsessive propagandist at this point, no different than Tucker and The Federalist.


This is the guy who was claiming Trump is a non interventionist during the campaign. A lot of lefties fully bought into ( and pushed) the narrative of Clinton as a uniquely dangerous demon, far more scary than Trump, and are working to justify that argument, even after Trump hired the architect of muscular neoconservative FP as his national security adviser.
 

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Greenwald hates establishment Dems far more than he hates Trump or the GOP. Once you accept that premise, all of his antics make sense. :manny:

Lol at the claim that he’s merely analyzing the Republicans next moves. He is clearly in agreement with their narrative and cheering it on. In any other context it would patently absurd for a “progressive” to unquestionably repeat the claims of Trumps attorney general, but some lefties are willing to throw away their skepticism because it’s Russia that’s under the microscope.

Greenwald initially argued there was no evidence of Russian hacking during the campaign whatsoever, then completely discarded this claim to focus on “no collusion”. Literally two weeks ago he was arguing that if Mueller had a problem with the Barr’s summary he would surely say something publicly - now that his letter has come to light he’s discarded that claim too. There is literally no development that can happen, that won’t stop him from arguing the opposite side. He is a tedious, obsessive propagandist at this point, no different than Tucker and The Federalist.


This is the guy who was claiming Trump is a non interventionist during the campaign. A lot of lefties fully bought into ( and pushed) the narrative of Clinton as a uniquely dangerous demon, far more scary than Trump, and are working to justify that argument, even after Trump hired the architect of muscular neoconservative FP as his national security adviser.
Do Establishment Dems hate Progressives more than Republicans or nah?
It's war out here for the power in the Democratic party. Everybody is fighting hard for their side even if it means being disingenuous.
 

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Said it from the jump, Russia gate was an obvious attempt to distract people from the structural changes that need to occur in the Dem Party. People moving the goal post now.

Can't be mad at Glen for telling the truth
 

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Donald Trump will not be impeached or jailed for obstruction, even though he may have. . . Here's why.

There was no legitimate reason for this investigation in the first place. The Obama admin spied on him illegally. The Feds used a fake dossier funded by the Clinton campaign to trick a FISA court into authorizing investigation.

IN NO UNIVERSE DOES TRUMP GET LOCKED UP OVER OBSTRUCTING AN ILLEGAL INVESTIGATION.

That said. . . There is a higher chance of the parties involved in creating this fake investigation being thrown in jail than Trump. . . And I support such action.

This whole thing is a truly shameful and disgusting display for this country. If after this you don't see that politics is joke, then I don't know what to tell any of you.
 
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Also, the DemoNcrats know that if they move forward with impeachment that ALL INFORMATION CONCERNING THE ORIGINS OF THIS DIRTY INVESTIGATION BECOMES UNAVOIDABLE and implicates people they would not want exposed.

My prediction is that all of this will simply go away in a few months if they are able to convince Barr to drop any investigations and they will as well. The Demoncrats will continue to push for tax returns, and once revealed they will push the whole russiagate stuff out of the media completely while using that same energy for his taxes.
 

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Donald Trump will not be impeached or jailed for obstruction, even though he may have. . . Here's why.

There was no legitimate reason for this investigation in the first place. The Obama admin spied on him illegally. The Feds used a fake dossier funded by the Clinton campaign to trick a FISA court into authorizing investigation.

IN NO UNIVERSE DOES TRUMP GET LOCKED UP OVER OBSTRUCTING AN ILLEGAL INVESTIGATION.

That said. . . There is a higher chance of the parties involved in creating this fake investigation being thrown in jail than Trump. . . And I support such action.

This whole thing is a truly shameful and disgusting display for this country. If after this you don't see that politics is joke, then I don't know what to tell any of you.

No way the existence of the Steele dossier or any surveillance of Carter Page makes the slightest difference in whether Trump will face the music or not.

The legitimate need for the investigation was that there was Russian interference into the election, Trump welcomed it and his associates and campaign helped to facilitate it, and once that was investigated he fired the guy investigating it and attempted to obstruct. Foreign interference in our elections with support from the elected party is obviously enough for an investigation.

The investigation would have happened even if the Steele dossier never existed, and Trump will face the same consequences with or without the dossier. It's not determinative.
 
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You are a full-on useful idiot if you think the existence of the Steele dossier or any surveillance of Carter Page makes the slightest difference in whether Trump will face the music or not.

The legitimate need for the investigation was that there was Russian interference into the election, Trump welcomed it and his associates and campaign helped to facilitate it, and once that was investigated he fired the guy investigating it and attempted to obstruct. Foreign interference in our elections with support from the elected party is obviously enough for an investigation.

The investigation would have happened even if the Steele dossier never existed, and Trump will face the same consequences with or without the dossier. It's not determinative.
You're wrong (not suprising). I'm right.

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Russiagate is about a crime not wrongdoing that's why the analogy doesn't suffice. Legal experts knew prior and during it would be extremely hard to prove collusion so why go there? It's like the consequences of it not working were never considered even though there was a lot of acknowledgement it probably wouldn't work. It was bad political strategy, now the cannons they pointed at Trump will now be pointed at them.

Russiagate is about conspiring with a foreign power to win the election. The fact that there wasn't absolute proof of exchange of information doesn't mean that this shouldn't have been looked into regardless of how big an obstacle the burden of proof would be. The president of the United States benefited from Russian interference to get his seat and members of his administration DID have a meeting that was planned as an exchange of information. Of COURSE you investigate that sort of thing.

And that's not to say that the media and many establishment Dems didn't hyper focus on this one situation while ignoring a myriad of other problems with the party. It absolutely has been used as a shield to ignored fixing certain flaws. But that's not an excuse to ignore what could be a very serious crime happening from the highest office in the land. That's not how it works. If the president is suspected of conspiracy, you investigate that ish. Dem, Republican, whatever. The mistake, wasn't the investigation and it wasn't a hoax; but the Dems absolutely did magnify it to cover themselves. I think both are worth acknowledging.
 
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