God is “perfect”, right? What’s the definition of perfection?

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Maybe it’s just me and my very mortal and infantile understanding of what the word “perfect” means, but, if I do understand it correctly how did Earth end up in shambles?

I’d like to blame mankind, but He made us. And if he was perfect, wouldn’t he have made us efficient enough to all be, perfect? Are we not in His image? I often hear “God is a jealous God”...how are you perfect but suffer from ego and things like jealousy?

Again, I think that I may just be misinformed on the definition of perfection in a religious sense. Somebody explain
 

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They say we have free will. That's false because you could face adverse fate in any given moment regardless of choices you make.

Also not in belief of this perfect supreme being either. The troubles on Earth started from the troubles in heaven.
 

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We were corrupted/compromised back in Eden. So now even our perception of perfection is flawed.

If god is perfect then how did something HE created, get “compromised”? It makes zero sense. Unless, again, He’s playing by a different definition of what it means to be perfect- which is precisely what i am inquiring with this thread. What is His definition of perfection? Because from my definition, nothing he created should’ve been flawed enough to be “compromised”. It wouldn’t have any flaws whatsoever.
 

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...The troubles on Earth started from the troubles in heaven.


See this is the stuff I don’t understand. How are you perfect but you have trouble in your own crib; a crib/universe created by you, who is perfect and should know how to create the perfect universe? It makes no sense(by my uninformed definition).
 

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Maybe it’s just me and my very mortal and infantile understanding of what the word “perfect” means, but, if I do understand it correctly how did Earth end up in shambles?

I’d like to blame mankind, but He made us. And if he was perfect, wouldn’t he have made us efficient enough to all be, perfect? Are we not in His image? I often hear “God is a jealous God”...how are you perfect but suffer from ego and things like jealousy?

Again, I think that I may just be misinformed on the definition of perfection in a religious sense. Somebody explain


Why do you assume "Perfection" doesn't involve, pain, disorder and chaos? You're looking at if from a subjective standpoint and not objective. If u look at it from outside of yourself its no different then making the "Perfect" birthday cake. You obviously dont care about the eggs taken from the mother chicken and the baby chicken killed to make the cake nor do you care about the cartel wars for the sugar cane fields involved in contributing to the sugar you put in that cake. All you care about is the cake being "perfect" in its final stage.


Also....Who's to say we aren't in the middle of being in the state of "perfection?" Like when the cake has just been placed in the oven, if u pull it out after 5 minutes its not fully cooked and therefore cant be a "perfect" cake yet. If a trillion years is 1 second to God then we have to acknowledge that we are slap dab in the middle of infinity, we haven't reached that "perfect" state yet like a cake with the residue of a chickens dead baby thats only been in the oven for 5 minutes. But as time progresses "Perfection" will finally be reached, like the final stage in the process of making the perfect cake.


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If god is perfect then how did something HE created, get “compromised”? It makes zero sense. Unless, again, He’s playing by a different definition of what it means to be perfect- which is precisely what i am inquiring with this thread. What is His definition of perfection? Because from my definition, nothing he created should’ve been flawed enough to be “compromised”. It wouldn’t have any flaws whatsoever.

He gave us free will and an eagerness to be "perfect" like him. That's what did Adam, Eve, the serpent/Satan in. Satan couldn't just be the most beautiful angel in heaven, he wanted to be God. The Serpent couldn't just be the wisest of God's creatures he wanted to be as wise as God. Same for Adam and Eve. They bit the apple and were infected by the knowledge of good and evil. They became flawed and passed it down to us. we still have our free will to choose what and who to believe in. We also have that desire to be perfect but we are flawed and so is our ideas/definitions of perfection.
 

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See this is the stuff I don’t understand. How are you perfect but you have trouble in your own crib; a crib/universe created by you, who is perfect and should know how to create the perfect universe? It makes no sense(by my uninformed definition).
I think our definition of perfection isn't aligned with what the entity definition is, otherwise there is no such thing as perfection.

Too much has happened on the heavenly realm to even take our definition and apply it to the entities definition.
 
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