God is “perfect”, right? What’s the definition of perfection?

[KyokushinKarateMan]

Now everyone wants to pretend that they don’t know what the word perfect means, or that it is something that’s completely and wholly relative.

Perfect = Flawless. Period. That is what perfection is.

It doesn’t mean “flawless according to this group of people’s tastes but not that group”. It means that it is perfect, which means that it appeals to all groups because, again, it is perfect. Meaning, there is nothing wrong with it. All groups like everything about it, because its perfect nature is enables it to have such an appeal. That’s the definition of perfection, as far as man understands it.

My question, is what does god consider perfect. Especially considering he says he made Adam and Eve perfect beings, and yet they ended up screwing up(which means they clearly were flawed because, hello, if they were made to perfection then they wouldn’t have even been ABLE to screw up).

 

[Lamar Givens]

Now everyone wants to pretend that they don’t know what the word perfect means, or that it is something that’s completely and wholly relative.

Perfect = Flawless. Period. That is what perfection is.

It doesn’t mean “flawless according to this group of people’s tastes but not that group”. It means that it is perfect, which means that it appeals to all groups because, again, it is perfect. Meaning, there is nothing wrong with it. All groups like everything about it, because its perfect nature is enables it to have such an appeal. That’s the definition of perfection, as far as man understands it.

My question, is what does god consider perfect. Especially considering he says he made Adam and Eve perfect beings, and yet they ended up screwing up(which means they clearly were flawed because, hello, if they were made to perfection then they wouldn’t have even been ABLE to screw up).

Adam and Eve had the AUTONOMY to chose to obey or disobey God. Those choices came with consequences.

You’re doing mental gymnastics to avoid the simple understanding of why our world is in chaos.

 

[Lamar Givens]

@KyokushinKarateMan

Also, the Scriptures never state that Adam and Eve were perfect. So I have no idea why you’re interjecting that premise.

It would have been utterly stupid for Yahweh to give them a command and not the ability to obey or disobey that command with the said consequences of those choices.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

You're thinking about a human like personality

That's not what G-d is

Is the Universe perfect? Yes. Cause its the Universe and it can only exist just like it is. So it is perfectly itself.

When you interact with the Universe you're looking for pleasant things to touch and see. When you see something YOU don't like you feel as if things are imperfect.

But what if YOUR comfort is meaningless? What makes you think that the things you want are the best things?

The Universe or G-d is perfectly the source of everything. Its just how YOU find a way to fit into creation that determines YOUR level of comfort

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Perfect = Flawless. Period. That is what perfection is.

It means that it is perfect, which means that it appeals to all groups because, again, it is perfect.

Meaning, there is nothing wrong with it.

All groups like everything about it, because its perfect nature is enables it to have such an appeal.

That’s the definition of perfection, as far as man understands it.

Breh, you just gave us 4 different definitions of what 'perfect' means and 2 of them use the term in the definition (before it's defined) which makes them invalid.

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[MegaManX]

God is another nikka. The more we treat him as such, the less likely we are to turn everyone else off. The Jews don't play that "he is a perfect god without sin" bullshyt. In the torah they talk about his violent jealousy all the time.

He a nikka that needs specific things. Throw fairness out the window with this dude. Just don't get on his bad side.

In got damn Genesys it says he created all things on Earth, good and bad. He is responsible for all evil and brags about it. You either fukks with that or don't. There is no middle ground to say he is all good and perfect.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

You deserved an F for writing and expanding upon utter nonsense and sophistry. WTF is God perfection...How about there is no such thing as perfection, and its a word Stupid humans invented, and later falsely applied to their evil god of the Bible.

Why u so triggered tho? If u got different beliefs that's cool by me. If the God I claim to believe in saw fit to give u free will and the freedom to not believe, who am I to get in the way of that freedom.
Do u believe in anything spiritual? No shade just curious. Not everybody is on that same wavelength. Do no harm and u still cool.

 

[010101]

nothing is perfect

god is nothing

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[knickscity]

Adam and Eve had the AUTONOMY to chose to obey or disobey God. Those choices came with consequences.

You’re doing mental gymnastics to avoid the simple understanding of why our world is in chaos.

A good parent wouldn't deliberately set their child up for failure, and this is just in an earthly sense. Why would the standard be lower from a heavenly spiritual sense? The Garden of Eden was only needed because of the chaos right where God resided. Where do you think the temptation came from? A spirit from heaven.

No spirit coming down, no temptation, no earthly issues.

Adam and Eve didn't have autonomy, if they did there would have been no consequence. What God should have done was dealt with the mistakes made in his own realm. As the scripture talk about the original serpent, came from heaven, Nephilim which came down and adopted human bodies to sleep with earthly women.....all this came from no other place than where God resides. I could go on, but this "perfection" really is nonexistent.

 

[Family Lives Matter]

A real nikka

 

[Uitomy]

Death

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Dude asks 'What is the definition of 'perfect' ?', and then proceeds to give you HIS definition of the term, which is subjective, then, tells others offering their own subjective definitions that they're wrong.

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[KyokushinKarateMan]

Dude asks 'What is the definition of 'perfect' ?', and then proceeds to give you HIS definition of the term, which is subjective, then, tells others offering their own subjective definitions that they're wrong.

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Be led by emotion to the brink of illiteracy brehs.

I never once asked what’s THE definition of perfect. I have my definition of it already which, yes, I’ve repeated throughout.

What I have asked, and to no avail, is what is HIS definition of perfect because it is obviously different than mine.

Still with me? Good. Now answer the question asked instead of the question you want to answer.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Be led by emotion to the brink of illiteracy brehs.

Don't read the title of your own thread, brehs.​

I never once asked what’s THE definition of perfect. I have my definition of it already which, yes, I’ve repeated throughout.

Read your thread title.....slower this time.
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What I have asked, and to no avail, is what is HIS definition of perfect because it is obviously different than mine.

Sure you did that, after you made this thread asking 'What's the definition of perfection?'
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Still with me? Good. Now answer the question asked instead of the question you want to answer.

Why don't you define what YOU mean by 'G-d', first, instead of assuming that YOUR definition means anything to me in any objective sense?

And, no, "the 'G-d' of the Bible" doesn't mean much to me.

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[JOHN.KOOL]

Maybe it’s just me and my very mortal and infantile understanding of what the word “perfect” means, but, if I do understand it correctly how did Earth end up in shambles?

I’d like to blame mankind, but He made us. And if he was perfect, wouldn’t he have made us efficient enough to all be, perfect? Are we not in His image? I often hear “God is a jealous God”...how are you perfect but suffer from ego and things like jealousy?

Again, I think that I may just be misinformed on the definition of perfection in a religious sense. Somebody explain

Once again the same same poor arguments. Firstly, yes it is just your infantile understanding that is the problem.

God has made us efficient enough to be perfect, but he also gave us free will to chose between different courses of actions. Whenever the thought to tell a lie, or steal or do anything wrong crosses our minds we all have the ability NOT to do it. I can always decide NOT to lie but rather tell the truth, i can decide NOT to steal at any time when faced with the opportunity to steal, we are all perfectly equipped to do the right thing in any circumstance and if we did so everytime we WOULD be perfect but we do not. Each and every one of us individual is responsible for why we are not 'perfect' when WE use the free will given to us and CHOSE to do the wrong thing when we have the opportunity and means to do the right thing. The earth is in a shambles because of many many times where human beings have freely CHOSEN to do the wrong thing when they had the means to do the right thing.