GOP gonna to starve future old people?

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“…a Ponzi scheme like Social Security.”

White people, white people, white people… :smh: :snoop:

Great decision-making and problem solving they’re showing. Keep electing the real good guys.

The fact they are calling it a ponzi scheme should be insulting to the average voter… it is literally a publicly funded pension that you pay into….., and are entitled to….
 

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Why though? You gave an alternative. But it's not enough to explain why SS and MC has to go.
They are financially unsustainable programs.

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I was wrong before it isn't 75 percent I was way off on that.

But yeah these program numbers are going to increase and increase. We currently are operating in severe budget deficits that are growing and growing. I think in ending these programs federally the US not only saves money but provides people better service than what they get in Medicare which could be alieviated with the end of the prohibition on HSAs and solve SS with transfers to RSAs
 
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They are financially unsustainable programs.

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I was wrong before it isn't 75 percent I was way off on that.

But yeah these program numbers are going to increase and increase. We currently are operating in severe budget deficits that are growing and growing. I think in ending these programs federally the US not only saves money but provides people better service than what they get in Medicare which could be alieviated with the end of the prohibition on HSAs and solve SS with transfers to RSAs

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None of this is viable for an aging population in a drastically shrinking job market…. If you paid into social security for 30 years you deserve your full payout as expected
 
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Social Security is literally a ponzi scheme was designed as such.






No… It’s not…. But for shyts and giggles left a say that it is… and if that is the case, the United States government has defrauded it’s citizens… it is literally a socially secure retirement insurance
 

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The fact they are calling it a ponzi scheme should be insulting to the average voter… it is literally a publicly funded pension that you pay into….., and are entitled to….
just because we all want the payouts to continue forever, doesn't mean that it isn't a ponzi scheme :dead:

it is not sustaining itself. if it was a program at a private company, it would go bankrupt. this is just a blatant fact

so sure, the government can just keep printing money, but is the definition of a ponzi

when social security was started, it paid out at 65, and life expectancy was 68. now it still pays out at 65, but life expectancy is 80. what part of that is sustainable?
 

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No… It’s not…. But for shyts and giggles left a say that it is… and if that is the case, the United States government has defrauded it’s citizens… it is literally a socially secure retirement insurance
yes it is.
Social security was designed for the younger new entries to pay for the present day entries, thats the funding mechanism, which is a traditional ponzi scheme.
Hell the fact that SS isn't even your account but functions more as government insurance is even worse.
We also need to go into how black americans, especially black men pay into it but historically never got any money out of it like black women, white men, white women do to comparatively early ages of death. Meaning they money they spent doesn't transfer to their kids or family, it goes to the whites and black women to enjoy. That isn't right either.
 

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Unless the USA starts becoming self sufficient (producing everything we need for our way of life here in the country) we are doomed. We will all be long gone before this happens but it’s already starting to happen.
 

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No of this is viable for an aging population in a drastically shrinking job market…. If you paid into social security for 30 years you deserve your full payout as expected
Job market hurts, population hurts too, but its really the design. Why are you defensive over a literal ponzi scheme when you can take an alternative that gives people the money they put in it, make it tax free, make it tax free for investments and investment profits, and make it tax free on withdrawals when hitting retirment age? Also make it transferable so that now when a person passes away they can transfer their wealth to their children.

Why would you not want that? Instead of social security as it is today?
 

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Unless the USA starts becoming self sufficient (producing everything we need for our way of life here in the country) we are doomed. We will all be long gone before this happens but it’s already starting to happen.
This makes no sense. There is no need for the US to produce everything it makes.
Doing that would literally make the standard of living drop.
It would make quality of life worse.

You sound just as nativist and economically illiterate as trump saying nonsense like this.
 
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yes it is.
Social security was designed for the younger new entries to pay for the present day entries, thats the funding mechanism, which is a traditional ponzi scheme.
Hell the fact that SS isn't even your account but functions more as government insurance is even worse.
We also need to go into how black americans, especially black men pay into it but historically never got any money out of it like black women, white men, white women do to comparatively early ages of death. Meaning they money they spent doesn't transfer to their kids or family, it goes to the whites and black women to enjoy. That isn't right either.

No… that’s white supremacy propaganda… it’s a guarantee that citizens pay into to help ensure you’re not living in abject poverty and eating wet dog food when you’re 65 years old or older… it is literally a social insurance program, hence the name
 
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